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Topic: People are idiots

Posted By: audiobass10
Subject: People are idiots
Date Posted: November 20, 2004 at 11:09 AM

This morning i head out to my Jeep for work only to find my back window was smashed in..and my whole system was stolen..head unit, box, amp, subs plus almost all of my cd's. People are such idiots. I probobably will never see that system again and my policy doesn't cover anything like that so i'm basically screwed...Makes me hesitant to ever put anything in there again. I should have had an alarm.



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Posted By: haemphyst
Date Posted: November 20, 2004 at 11:24 AM
I am sorry for your loss... that happens FAR too often. The problem with society today is that nobody has any respect for what is NOT theirs. I blame the ACLU, and the fact that people are not allowed to discipline their kids today "Because it'll cause emotional scarring." blah, blah, blah... F&$# the ACLU! Beat some respect into that kid, dammit! I had it done to me, (my dad had a VERY heavy hand) and now, today I would NEVER even think about stealing something. Raise the kids with some respect. Someone once said "Spare the rod, spoil the child." Here's proof, people. They think they can get away with anything today...

Anyway, when I was in sales, the first line on any invoice I ever wrote was a security system, and to anybody else that does not have on, GET ONE, cause somebody out there wants YOUR stereo... Don't let this happen to you. Again, I am sorry or your loss... it has happened to me, and I know the violated feeling it leaves behind.

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Posted By: DYohn
Date Posted: November 20, 2004 at 11:44 AM

The ACLU?!?  Please.

There have always been thieves.  There will always be theives.  The motivation for being a thief has less to do with how one was raised and much more to do with economic pressures, high unemployment, drug addiction, malicious intent, and greed.  Oh, and Christmas is right around the corner.  And then there are the professionals who steal as a business and a way of life.  Audio and video gear has always been a target for thieves since it is easily stolen and easily pawned or re-sold (especially now with eBay.)  Cars are easy targets for the thieves since they sit out in the open all night.   I agree, a security system can help, but if a pro wants your gear, it won't matter in the least.  A locked garage is the best security for a car and its contents.

It sucks that your system was stolen, and that your vehicle was damaged.  Thieves are idiots, as are people who buy the stolen gear and thus keep the thieves in business.



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Posted By: ophidia31
Date Posted: November 20, 2004 at 11:47 AM
which is why im paranoid to this day. i didnt have anything stolen but they were trying to get into my car when my neighbors heard them. it was in my first car and they tried banging the lock out of the trunk. it was my first car and i didnt have an alarm on it. it didnt help that i had eclipse across the back window! but, the next day i ripped it out until i can do something about it. in that time i found a car ive been looking for. the first thing i did was put an alarm on it before i even put the stereo in. now, i park where i can see my car from my house, if i hear anything out of the ordinary i stay and watch until its gone, ive even thought of setting up a surveilence (sp?) system to watch it while im sleeping. anymore i try to make my stereos as discrete as possible and turn it down whenever i drive around where i live.  if i see someone trying to mess with my car i wont think twice about beating them unmerciful. theyd deserve everything they got. i cant stand people that take what isnt theirs.

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Posted By: s7726
Date Posted: November 20, 2004 at 12:22 PM

I believe the stats still show that most people that steel can aford the things they steel so it's not so much econ pressure as f***ed up people. I went through a period in HS where i stole some things, I was a stupid punk kid, i could have purchased everything i stole, I had a job, my parents are good people, and they aren't rich but we are well off. You can't alwasy blame the parents.

I'll go along with the malicious intent and greed, maybe even drugs, but i don't think unemployment is a very high contibutor to the problem.

Oh yeah and Get an Alarm First I haven't gotten one yet, but i also haven't put anythign in my "Highly desirable" 83 240 volvo, hehe.



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Posted By: audiobass10
Date Posted: November 20, 2004 at 12:46 PM

My alarm will be my first project before putting in a new system...Thanks for everyones comments/concerns.



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Posted By: kgerry
Date Posted: November 20, 2004 at 12:56 PM

i hate to say it but i have no symapthy at all for people who keep putting off the purchase of a good security system because they wanted to buy the newest version of some subwoofer, amp or headunit.... a good quality, high end sound system should start with the security system and move outwards from there, not the other way around.....

I can't count how many times i have had to listen to people in my shop moaning that "i was gonna buy an alarm right after i put in my subs" only now you dont have a head unit or amp or satellite speakers to worry about making that sub sound good, do you???

offering something so unprotected just tempts and encourages people to steal, perpetuating the same vicious cycle....

having said that,   i understand very little of Islamic law...but i'm all for " if you steal something we cut off your freaking hands"



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Posted By: megavolt121
Date Posted: November 20, 2004 at 1:10 PM

A few general rules to remember:

1) A determined theif will get your stuff if they want it.

2) Don't put any stickers on your car that show off what you have. You think its cool, thieves think of it as free advertising.

3) If you KNOW your pulling into a bad part of town, turn that stereo down dont advertise your eqipment. Same for when you get home unless you live in a gated community blah blah blah.

4) Finally if possible, park under a lighted area, it makes it easier for others, and you to see your car being broken into.

With that said, for those who have alarms, I'd suggest looking into the siren that Viper has that goes inside your cabin. It actually emits a frequency that hurts the eardrums. That does way more than the whistling alarms since most people in this day and age have learned to tune alarms out.





Posted By: flynntech
Date Posted: November 20, 2004 at 1:52 PM

bear traps are my favorite anti-theft..

It's tough to find the real dangerous ones, they are banned as far as I know. Find one with strong enough jaws and it will take a hand off!

Just make sure you remember they're set when you get back in your car.





Posted By: xTimx
Date Posted: November 20, 2004 at 1:59 PM
its funny cause, my friend and his bro one time, came out of they're house at night. and seen a thief stealing a sub box out of the jimmy. and was literally dragging it down the street it was so heavy. but anyways. they ran after the guy and caught up to him. phoned the police and they just gave him a charge. and a slap on the wrist. and he basically said that we cant really put him in jail or anything. do you guys want him? (the cop actually said that) and he also said do what you please with him. so with that in mind. the police guy left. and then my friend and his bro just beat the hell out of this guy and actually put him in the hospital.

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Posted By: dxav
Date Posted: November 20, 2004 at 2:46 PM
Comp doesn't cover theft? I thought it did. If you can prove the equipment was in the car, you should be able to file a claim. Insurance should help out, even if you have a high deductible (~$500), but a few thousand dollars of equipment. But your claim may increase your rates.

Sorry for the loss.

DXAV




Posted By: xTimx
Date Posted: November 20, 2004 at 3:46 PM
in sask here. if you have a 700$ deductible. and if you bring in all your receipts from your equipment, (if you dont have them you can go to the store and get them) your system is deducted off your 700$, then you get the remainder. but this is in sask canada. i dunno about the states. :P

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Posted By: uthinkuknoaudio
Date Posted: November 20, 2004 at 4:50 PM
I agree with haemphyst, the ACLU has gone too far. Boy when i was a kid my dad whooped the living crap out of me for bringing home a C in school. If i would have done half the crap these kids do today i would have been dead! Literally! Parents, kick the crap out of your kids and lock them up - if they misbehave that isposted_image It worked on me obviously because i haven't gotten a ticket in my life yet! That is rediculous when your kid does something stupid and you're gonna knock the crap out of him and he says, "I'll call the police" and were just supposed to say "Go to time-out"... Well the only time out i'd give them is the one where i make them unconscious. Good point haemphyst, i 100% agree.




Posted By: astro88
Date Posted: November 20, 2004 at 6:40 PM

I once saw a comedian talking of this subject, one boy told the other boy(who had a strict dad)Next time he punishes you threaten to call the police, The dad said"heres the phone, but it will take them at least ten minutes to get here and it will be the most painfull ten minutes of youre life!"

Sorry bout youre loss bro....





Posted By: customsuburb
Date Posted: November 20, 2004 at 7:25 PM
So basically what you're saying is a kid won't turn out right unless you beat the sh*t out of him? sounds smart to me...


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Posted By: astro88
Date Posted: November 20, 2004 at 7:57 PM

No not true? I believe that a person is gonna turn out how he or she turrns out.NO MATTER what the rules and punishment for breakin them is.IMO

Ive got two boys and neither one has recieved anything worse than a  minor spanking.

Violence begets violence  (I think)





Posted By: customsuburb
Date Posted: November 20, 2004 at 8:04 PM
I think its fine to spank kids when they needed to be corected.

Lets try to get back on topic though.

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Posted By: Glowinlow22
Date Posted: November 20, 2004 at 9:52 PM

i must add my 2 cents, how many of you who are saying beat your kids actually have kids?  if you've ever seen a 2 year old wander thru a house exploring and breaking everything they get ahold of you can see that human nature makes people curious, they want to learn they want to know and understand, but in their small minds the world doesnt make alot of sense so everything becomes something to bang against something else thus causing damage, now how many have spanked their kids? my g/f has a 19 month old who does just that runs around destroying things, you can yell no at that kid all day long, you can put her in time out, you can make her sit in a chair but the min your not looking boom back where she was a min ago, i for one will never beat a child, couple swift smacks to the diaper and she runs off screaming like you tried to kill her, at best shes feeling something but i doubt its remotely painful, as i've seen this kid pinch herself so hard her fingers and the skin shes got ahold of are turning white and all she can do is look at it, this proves that people will be how people were born.

Parents can guide, influence, inspire, but never CHANGE the way a person thinks, i had a buddy that stole everything he could get his hands on, the little a***ole used to go to malls and check door handles, if it was open anything inside was open game to his greedy hands, why did he steal? well it wasnt home life, his grandmother took very good care of him, offered him as much as she could afford and he grew up in a nice area with money, sure he was lower class income but he never went hungry, never saw the ghetto but he insisted on living as white trash and stealing everything around him, another kid i new who was 18 stold sh*t constantly, destroyed everything around him drugs all of it he came from rich parents and grew up in iowa in a very upscale neighborhood.

Bottom line some people are useless wastes of space out to do nothing but destroy other peoples stuff, if you live in a bad area you can expect your stuff to go missing if givin a chance, its how the world works, it aint right but its how it goes, where i live there isnt a whole lot of crime, the streets pretty safe and secure, sh*t i hardly ever even lock my doors nothing has ever went missing, none of my stuff has ever moved and none of my things have ever been so much as finger printed up by someone who i didnt know, but if i ever move i'm sticking a highend compustar system in my car to prevent sticking fingers from getting into my car.

and as far as noisy alarms, i want something so loud it crushes ribs, i'm thinking of wiring my alarm into my subs on a low frequency so that when the alarm goes off the spl inside the car is so loud it almost breaks the glass, that out to stop any theif that gets into my car and thinks hes gonna be slick and rip some stuff out, or you could just remove the door handles and keyholes, that'll slow them down for a few mins, or better yet buy a big dog and a big chain and teach him that mr robbers crotch is his new fav meal :).

J~





Posted By: Glowinlow22
Date Posted: November 20, 2004 at 9:54 PM

also, home owners or renters insurance will cover the stuff inside your car in just about every state that i know of, i've known a couple guys that had their car broke into and claimed it on renters and got all their money back and then some.

J~





Posted By: uthinkuknoaudio
Date Posted: November 20, 2004 at 10:16 PM

Lets get back on topic, if i had collected for everyone's 2 cents i would be a millinaire by now...





Posted By: DYohn
Date Posted: November 21, 2004 at 10:19 AM

uthinkuknoaudio wrote:

Lets get back on topic, if i had collected for everyone's 2 cents i would be a millinaire by now...

Well you certainly didn't hesitate to add your's... but yes, let's close this one as it now belongs over on some forum called pop_psychology.com...



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