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Topic: What components should i get?

Posted By: AJRXtreme
Subject: What components should i get?
Date Posted: November 22, 2004 at 7:08 PM

I want very loud clear components that will blow my ears away. I want around 75 watts RMS on each or more. I plan on powering them by a memphis 75x4 amp or i can go bigger if i need to. I hear CDT, focal, MBQ, and cadence are great speakers, but can someone suggest an exact speaker by model number and brand? Thankyou

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03 F150 on 24's
HU:Pioneer DVD5700
Frt:MC57
Subs:(12)S12L7
Amps:(3)KX2500.1's, MC-2004



Replies:

Posted By: kfr01
Date Posted: November 22, 2004 at 7:25 PM
How much do you want to spend?
What kind of music do you like?

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New Project: 2003 Pathfinder




Posted By: uthinkuknoaudio
Date Posted: November 22, 2004 at 7:25 PM
Memphis amp = no way for high end components. You want loud that will blow your ears away ... maybe you should copy my setup then. I have a Cadence ZRS-4 amplifer (125 W x 4 RMS @ 4ohms) and i run 2 sets of Cadence CVL-6K 6.5'' Components. This is a fantastic combo. VERY VERY LOUD AND CLEAR. I also recommend the HD series from CDT, the HD62 set. Focals are good and expensive, but the utopia's are fantastic. I love my cadence CVL-6K's though, they are the top of the line for the price. Check them out! That amp is insanely powerful, as that 125 is underrated, and will push any component you want! I love that amp! Here is a pic of it!  It is pretty big, as you can see it is bigger than my sealed box of 10'' JBL's in my room.  posted_image

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"I don't play games. I play Nakamichi and that for real yo" - Probably some japanese kid said this in the early 80's trying to sell stereo out of his trunk lol.




Posted By: kfr01
Date Posted: November 22, 2004 at 7:26 PM
There's nothing wrong with Memphis. Many would put Memphis in the same class as Cadence. Its fine if you want to tell everyone how much you like your product, but do you actually have any basis for saying that Memphis is not for high end components?


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New Project: 2003 Pathfinder




Posted By: AJRXtreme
Date Posted: November 22, 2004 at 7:28 PM
i like to listen to gangsta rap like underground memphis. Thats mostly the reason i like memphis audio is cause all my favorite rappers are from memphis. I am willing to spend $250 max on 2 components speakers and $350 max on 4 channel amp.

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03 F150 on 24's
HU:Pioneer DVD5700
Frt:MC57
Subs:(12)S12L7
Amps:(3)KX2500.1's, MC-2004




Posted By: kfr01
Date Posted: November 22, 2004 at 7:33 PM
If you listen to gangsta rap midrange sound quality matters much less than highs and lows.

You might want to check out Focal's Access line. They are within your price range. Drive around to dealers in your area and ask to demo speakers. That's the only way to buy.

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New Project: 2003 Pathfinder




Posted By: DukeDuke
Date Posted: November 22, 2004 at 7:37 PM
Not to make your choice any harder, but I would like to throw a couple awesome brands at you as well, Boston( the pro series are awesome), Diamond Audio(the Hex Series are awesome) and as well the MB Quarts(my favortie, not going to bash anyone else's things however, like some people, the Q-series is awesome but for your price range, hit up the bay and to the Reference series)

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Duke Duke




Posted By: kfr01
Date Posted: November 22, 2004 at 7:43 PM
Memphis is a highly regarded brand and I've been very impressed with it. AJRXtreme, Memphis will be just fine for high quality components.

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New Project: 2003 Pathfinder




Posted By: AJRXtreme
Date Posted: November 22, 2004 at 7:43 PM
WOW! there are so many choices and so many brands and models. Its going to be very hard to pick which ones. I think im going to go with cadence or focal.

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03 F150 on 24's
HU:Pioneer DVD5700
Frt:MC57
Subs:(12)S12L7
Amps:(3)KX2500.1's, MC-2004




Posted By: AJRXtreme
Date Posted: November 22, 2004 at 7:47 PM
I have a 6x8" speaker space and i plan on getting a speaker adapter kit to fit a 6.5" component speaker. Can someone tell me if the bigger the size of speaker the louder it is or do all sizes sound the same?

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03 F150 on 24's
HU:Pioneer DVD5700
Frt:MC57
Subs:(12)S12L7
Amps:(3)KX2500.1's, MC-2004




Posted By: kfr01
Date Posted: November 22, 2004 at 7:50 PM
Larger speakers can generally play lower. (more bass) This makes a smoother transition to the subwoofer possible.

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New Project: 2003 Pathfinder




Posted By: uthinkuknoaudio
Date Posted: November 22, 2004 at 7:54 PM
Very true, and i guarantee you will like either one of the cadence or focal components. I love mine, and i think they are both great! Focal is a little more, but they still sound around the same, if anything the cadence's are a little louder!!! Really to be honest, cadence is the best bang for the buck! Let us know what you decide! BTW, if your going to go cadence -get the CVL's. If your going to Go focal - get the utopias. Those are their best lines!!!

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"I don't play games. I play Nakamichi and that for real yo" - Probably some japanese kid said this in the early 80's trying to sell stereo out of his trunk lol.




Posted By: AJRXtreme
Date Posted: November 22, 2004 at 8:03 PM
im probably going with these memphis components. https://www.memphiscaraudio.com/products/details.asp?cat=&id=9&p=2

The thing is about these they have 50 watts RMS. I want around 75.

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03 F150 on 24's
HU:Pioneer DVD5700
Frt:MC57
Subs:(12)S12L7
Amps:(3)KX2500.1's, MC-2004




Posted By: /R7
Date Posted: November 22, 2004 at 8:38 PM
well you cant call a manufacturer and ask for a more powerful one. your best bet is to look at another brand.

i have phoenix gold Ti Elites, and right now i've not found out how loud they can actually get. but it definitely gets as loud as a garage band playing right infront of you, and they stay clear, thats loud enough for me.

possibley cheaper than the high end Cadence or Focals (not sure), and i would consider them high end in my book.

note: im only pushing 50watts and it gets that loud. set your amp's gain properly, and you should beable to get them very loud (any speaker for that matter)




Posted By: kfr01
Date Posted: November 22, 2004 at 8:40 PM
As long as you set the gains on the amp properly and implement a high pass crossover (around 80-100hz for a 6.5") driver, you'd be fine pushing with 75 watts.



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New Project: 2003 Pathfinder




Posted By: uthinkuknoaudio
Date Posted: November 22, 2004 at 9:13 PM
Another great component for SQ is the Nakamichi SP-S6500. They are great sounding 6.5'' Comps. One thing is, they will not give you incredible bass. They are mainly focused on your highs and maintaing a good midbass. They run good power ratings and are incredibly loud and clear. Just have a good subwoofer to bring in your lows. I'll check around and i'll see what comp sets i can find at 75WRMS...

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"I don't play games. I play Nakamichi and that for real yo" - Probably some japanese kid said this in the early 80's trying to sell stereo out of his trunk lol.




Posted By: AJRXtreme
Date Posted: November 22, 2004 at 9:42 PM
thanks a lot guys

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03 F150 on 24's
HU:Pioneer DVD5700
Frt:MC57
Subs:(12)S12L7
Amps:(3)KX2500.1's, MC-2004




Posted By: Ravendarat
Date Posted: November 22, 2004 at 10:45 PM
Hmmmmmmmm, personally I was never all that impressed with cadence. The local Focal Dealer hear had them as a bit of a trial thing and I heard them side by side in the store and I didnt find that they sounded near as good as the focal stuff at any level, but remember sound is subjective to the listner. Dont bother looking at the Utopia line because they are way more than what you wanted to spend. I am sorry but before I start recomending stuff can you clear something up, are you wanting one PAIR of speakers for 250 dollars or 2 pairs of speakers for a total of 250 dollars. Just trying to get the facts sake

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double-secret reverse-osmosis speaker-cone-induced high-level interference distortion, Its a killer




Posted By: thapimpfromchi
Date Posted: November 23, 2004 at 3:01 AM
i know i'll probably get removed from this site for what im about to say, but, do u really need to go with such high priced equipment? A buddy of mine had the worst equipment, and it sounded absolutely amazing. He has like a 5 year old pioneer premier HU, going to a Jensen 50x4 for interiors. A legacy red series "1600" watt amp going to 2 kickers cvr's. the interiors were: 2 front Pyramid 1" tweeters, depth charge 3" or 3.5" fronts, and stock 4x10" pioneers in the back, with 2 horn tweeters. 1 minute in that car, and all i heard was beeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep for the next 2 hours. and it was crystal clear while doing it. Just thought u might wanna know.

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1990 Honda Civic HB:
Clarion DXZ545MP H.U.
2- 6.5" Power Acoustik interiors
Diamond Audio 600.1 amp
Diamond Audio 15" M6MKII
Pyramid PB881X 4 CH. Amp




Posted By: thapimpfromchi
Date Posted: November 23, 2004 at 3:02 AM
FYI, in no way am i endorsing those brands. As you can see, i buy "relatively" high end stuff. so please dont ban me. lol

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1990 Honda Civic HB:
Clarion DXZ545MP H.U.
2- 6.5" Power Acoustik interiors
Diamond Audio 600.1 amp
Diamond Audio 15" M6MKII
Pyramid PB881X 4 CH. Amp




Posted By: kfr01
Date Posted: November 23, 2004 at 3:25 AM
You probably heard beeeeeeep because the distortion was so high. Above a certain decibel level our ears can't hear distortion at close range, but the distortion and volume still do damage to our ears.

People buy higher end brands because if it is truly quality stuff it will be better at reproducing what the artist recorded.

I think it is generally a good idea to buy a nice front stage, 90% of your music will come from those speakers.

Having said that, you're right, no one NEEDS better stuff. We WANT it. :-)

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New Project: 2003 Pathfinder




Posted By: AJRXtreme
Date Posted: November 23, 2004 at 5:04 PM
I plan on paying around $250 for one pair of components. I dont think i should switch out my 3 way pioneers in the back 2 doors. So im gonna go ahead and leave them there and just power them by an amp. Is all this ok?

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03 F150 on 24's
HU:Pioneer DVD5700
Frt:MC57
Subs:(12)S12L7
Amps:(3)KX2500.1's, MC-2004




Posted By: DYohn
Date Posted: November 23, 2004 at 5:19 PM

My only advice is to go to your local car stereo store and LISTEN to all the speakers they have in your price range.  Take along your favorite CD and LISTEN to the differences from one brand to another.  Buy the ones that sound best to YOU regardless of what anyone has to say.  It's you who has to live with it, eh?



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