need high spl sub
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Topic: need high spl sub
Posted By: anthony33$
Subject: need high spl sub
Date Posted: December 01, 2004 at 9:21 PM
I am looking for a high output, high spl sub that still has descent sound quality. I listen to rap and bass cd's and I need a sub that can handle these demands at high volume. I want the sub to be recamended for ported application because I think a ported box sounds better. Does anyone have any good sub recamendations that can do this without costing a crap load of money. THANX
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Posted By: kfr01
Date Posted: December 01, 2004 at 9:29 PM
Define crap load of money. Also tell us what kind of power you have to throw at it. i.e. what amps do you have. If you're planning on buying amps too tell us your total budget.
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Posted By: anthony33$
Date Posted: December 01, 2004 at 9:31 PM
Something a little cheaper than a W7 or ID-max.
Posted By: anthony33$
Date Posted: December 01, 2004 at 9:33 PM
I will buy the amp that will best power the subs. Right now i have a pioneer amp that puts out 1800 watts. But I will upgrade.
Posted By: poeticdrums
Date Posted: December 01, 2004 at 9:45 PM
Are you looking for JUST AN SPL SUB? As in, you're only going to be listening it at really freaking high volumes? Cause if so I know soundstream makes some good stuff....but hmm I don't know about their pricing i haven't heard anything about that. It seems like almost any company anmore makes an SPL subwoofer of some kind, so just go and find one that suits your needs.
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Posted By: /R7
Date Posted: December 01, 2004 at 9:49 PM
so we'll say you want to spend under 700$ for a sub that can handle 1800RMS?
i dont know where to find prices, so i cant offer too much in your budget without knowing the price of each sub. but for spl, what about
Eclipse's 15" 9100pro, probably more then 700$ a sub though. but i imagine it'll handle anything you throw at it.
the ID-max's i saw were cheaper than the W7, the ID MAX 12 v.3, can handle 1000watts.
look into Adire, or RE, they should have something in your power range at least.
edit: i was going to mention SS as well, but i didnt know what price range they were in.
https://www.soundstream.com/sub/products_subs_tarantula.html
i would go with their TR line over their newer SPLX, but if your serious about the SPL maybe thats the line for you. they are each 1000watt series though SPLX and TR.
Posted By: sbcaprice305
Date Posted: December 01, 2004 at 9:52 PM
re xxx adire brahama.. there both around $450
Posted By: uthinkuknoaudio
Date Posted: December 01, 2004 at 9:56 PM
Try the MMATS Juggernaut, crazy SPL numbers, or the Treo CSX, that is nuts as well. Just cough up the cash lol.
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Posted By: MAXST
Date Posted: December 01, 2004 at 10:25 PM
Tempest in their loaded horn box. If made right...it'll be plenty loud. ------------- I need quality equipment, feel free to donate.
Posted By: anthony33$
Date Posted: December 01, 2004 at 11:06 PM
I have been thinking about the adire brahma because its got about everything I want in a sub. Its also in the price range I'm looking for, you always hear good things about the brahma subs. The xxx is another sub I have had my I on. What would be a better buy the brahma or the xxx? both are overkill on bass and thats what Im looking for.
Posted By: uthinkuknoaudio
Date Posted: December 01, 2004 at 11:09 PM
Brahma
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"I don't play games. I play Nakamichi and that for real yo" - Probably some japanese kid said this in the early 80's trying to sell stereo out of his trunk lol.
Posted By: anthony33$
Date Posted: December 01, 2004 at 11:13 PM
Does the mmats juggernaut have any musical quality to it?
Posted By: uthinkuknoaudio
Date Posted: December 01, 2004 at 11:15 PM
yeah, its a great sub all around. I've been impressed with MMATS for a long time, everything they got is good.I warn you though, you need a lot of space, and when i say a lot, i mean 4.5 cubes for each woofer minimum, so yeah they will crank out crazy db's and SPL numbers. SQ is good, just give it a clean amp like US Amps or the MMATS amp (Class G crazy)
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"I don't play games. I play Nakamichi and that for real yo" - Probably some japanese kid said this in the early 80's trying to sell stereo out of his trunk lol.
Posted By: Sancho
Date Posted: December 01, 2004 at 11:38 PM
Try Kicker Solo Baric L7
Posted By: sbcaprice305
Date Posted: December 02, 2004 at 12:12 AM
over on ca.com its been discussed many of times(xxx vs. brahma)....there are the same when it comes down to it....pick wichever one looks better:).. you can find them used for 350 ish
Posted By: /R7
Date Posted: December 02, 2004 at 12:51 AM
sbcaprice305 wrote:
over on ca.com its been discussed many of times(xxx vs. brahma)....there are the same when it comes down to it....pick wichever one looks better:)..
you can find them used for 350 ish
i cant agree "there are the same" but, it seems marginal enough that in any case if you go with one or the other, you'll still be extremely satisfied.
for its application, my next sub probably would be the XXX, it seems to me, to be a stronger SPL hitter, and my next vehicle will be an SPL car, i figure i try each for what car audio has to offer, and then have some what of a well-rounded knowledge of what i want in a car. xxx brahma man, you cant go wrong.
stephen could probably get technical about it, and im sure i've read posts indicating which seems to be more SQ oriented and which seems to be the SPL sub of choice.
well that was long winded, good luck deciding, look for the better buy too if thats a concern.
Posted By: Steven Kephart
Date Posted: December 02, 2004 at 11:18 AM
The XXX has a little more throw and uses an 8 layer voice coil so it has a little more power handling. It is a little harder to break than a Brahma because of this. The Brahma has a lower inductance which gives it a better transient response and doesn't roll off as early on the high end, requires a smaller enclosure for a given alignment, and has a flatter frequency response. Those are the technical differences that you would probably be able to hear when the subs are A/B'd right next to eachother. However the differences are so small I think you would be very happy with either sub. Since you are leaning more toward SPL, I'd recomend the XXX for you as it is a bit more of an SPL sub. Good luck! Steven Kephart Adire Audio -------------
Posted By: pimpincavy
Date Posted: December 02, 2004 at 11:40 AM
I would go with a RE XXX, Brahma, MMATS Jugernaut, or Digital Designs. All will get really loud, if you have the power. If you want opinions of people that are really into SPL, go check out the forums on termpro.com. Also watch some videos on realofexcurion.com, shows how much abuse some subs can go through.
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Posted By: mobile E
Date Posted: December 02, 2004 at 3:24 PM
Hey steven, what is the inductance of a brahma 10 and 12, i couldnt find it on the site? ------------- everything stolen :(
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Posted By: anthony33$
Date Posted: December 02, 2004 at 6:56 PM
Somebody needs to post some juggernauts on the realm of ecxursion website, I bet they can do some damage.
Posted By: anthony33$
Date Posted: December 02, 2004 at 6:59 PM
What would be a good amp to push two xxx subs that does not cost a thousand dollers.
Posted By: Steven Kephart
Date Posted: December 02, 2004 at 8:20 PM
mobile E wrote:
Hey steven, what is the inductance of a brahma 10 and 12, i couldnt find it on the site?
.9 mH per coil. It is listed in the specs on the Brahma page of our website.  Le is inductance. Steven Kephart Adire Audio -------------
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