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Forum Name: Car Audio
Forum Discription: Car Stereos, Amplifiers, Crossovers, Processors, Speakers, Subwoofers, etc.
URL: https://www.the12volt.com/installbay/forum_posts.asp?tid=44334
Printed Date: April 26, 2024 at 6:53 AM


Topic: Opinions Needed

Posted By: bighauns
Subject: Opinions Needed
Date Posted: December 02, 2004 at 11:13 PM

I just want to know what you guys think of the following setup...

-Hifonics Brutus BX1500D 1500W Mono Block
-Hifonics Zeus ZX6400 85WX4 Speaker Amp
-Xtant 12" X1244

This is going in a 1994 Eagle Talon TSi, if anyone cares.

Thanks for the input!!




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Posted By: stevdart
Date Posted: December 02, 2004 at 11:37 PM
Those are all items on my Christmas wish list.  Just be sure to match RMS values.  Do you have speakers besides the sub?




Posted By: kfr01
Date Posted: December 03, 2004 at 12:01 AM
I'm also wondering what speakers you're planning to drive with the 85x4 Hifonics.

For the same amount of money you could probably get a slightly cleaner 50x4 amp. The achievable volume difference between a good quality 50x4 amp and the Hifonics will be negligable.

Post the price you're looking at getting that Zeus for.

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Posted By: bighauns
Date Posted: December 03, 2004 at 12:34 AM

The zeus zx6400 is $225 US. But i was also thinking about just using a Zeus zx4400 which i could get for about $185 US which would give me 55 watts RMS. I will be running two pairs of clarion components that i believe are 6.5" 110 watts RMS. But i am not sure if i need that extra power or not. Do you guys think it is worth it?? Or could that money be used better?



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Posted By: kfr01
Date Posted: December 03, 2004 at 1:11 AM

Well, there are better 4-channel amplifiers out there for mids/highs.  Hifonics specs are probably overrated both in terms of quality and power.  However, if that includes shipping, you're getting those items fairly cheap.  I'd probably shop around a little.  While I hear Hifonics is an excellent subwoofer amp because of the decent power ratings for the price I can't say I've ever heard anyone praise their class A/B (mid/high) amplifier quality.

The extra 35 watts probably won't make a bit of difference.  If the 85w one was $200 more I'd say forget about it - but for $40 extra?  Go for it.  Extra headroom doesn't hurt. 

Also, the only problem you *might* run into plopping that much power into your car is one of power.  Unless you've got a high output alternator you might be draining that battery of yours, depending on how you listen to your music.  Hey, if you get the 55w amp you can use that extra $40 for a new alternator.  Think about it.



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Posted By: thepyrofish
Date Posted: December 03, 2004 at 7:16 AM

Oh, definately I will need an alternator there is no question about it.  Stevdart, what do you know about the speaker amps? You said that they were on your wish list :-) That must mean something good right?!

Let me know what you think, maybe I should get a different speaker amp?  I kind of want to get both amps from the same company, it would look cool and stuff.

Thanks for the input.





Posted By: bighauns
Date Posted: December 03, 2004 at 7:25 AM
Hey, sorry about that...I was on a friends computer in which he was logged in to the12volt and has hotbar on it.

So, here is what I was trying to say...

Oh, definately I will need an alternator there is no question about it.

Stevdart, what do you know about the zeus speaker amps? You said that were on your wish list :-) That mus mean something good right?

Let me know what you think, maybe I should get a different speaker amp? I kind of want to get both amps from the same copany, it would look cool and stuff.


Thanks for the input, and sorry about the above post.

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Posted By: stevdart
Date Posted: December 03, 2004 at 7:56 AM

1.  Personally, I think amps from different manufacturers look cooler.  It shows that you have selected for the sake of performance, and not for the "showroom display" package look.  kfr01 is very good at this kind of thing, so his input is better than what I can give on this subject.

2.    I just meant that my wish list includes higher quality components than what I am currently enjoying....it was just a comment.





Posted By: bighauns
Date Posted: December 03, 2004 at 12:26 PM
Hmmm, never looked at it like that. I can see how that is totally possible. kfr01, what are you thinking on this whole setup??

Thanks

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Posted By: fire2050
Date Posted: December 03, 2004 at 2:04 PM
personally i would save your money and buy another car unles you have some attachment to it and alos pyramid is where its at.........haha but seriously if you do this make sure that you dont put so much bump in it that it makes the car fall apart ive learned my lesson in that




Posted By: bighauns
Date Posted: December 03, 2004 at 2:56 PM
I am not gonna be running it at 1500W RMS, I am gonna be running about 900W rms.  As well, I do not plan on running that much all the time, but when I want to I can.  The advantage of the bass control knob :-)

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Posted By: jeffchilcott
Date Posted: December 03, 2004 at 4:43 PM
ahhh the good old distortion knob, i mean the gain knob, I mean that same thing!    I hate these stupid things.   I would run it at what the sub can handle and use yoru head unit to adjust the bass using the sub control on your head unit, if your has it.

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Posted By: bighauns
Date Posted: December 03, 2004 at 6:30 PM
yeah, good call on that one! the HU will have it, not sure exactly which one i am getting, but i know it will be an uper end alpine, as I have had great experiences with them in the past. They give you a lot of control.


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Posted By: stevdart
Date Posted: December 03, 2004 at 6:54 PM
I don't know how all of the bass control knobs, the kind that extend via phone wire from the amp up to the cabin, work....but the one I have with the USacoustics is an attenuator only.  It'll lower the bass, but won't affect gain.




Posted By: soccer_aholic
Date Posted: December 03, 2004 at 9:03 PM

I personally think that would be a killer system for what you are paying. Plus it looks like it could leave a bunch of doors open in the future. Like if you wanted to make you system louder, you could just add one more xtant sub and it would then be running your amp at 1 ohm and you would be getting all 1500RMS out of that amp. or if you are big into sound quality that is what you will be getting. running that amp at 2 ohms will be decent for sound quality and that xtant is Amazing for sound quality. I would say you did some nice picking for your sub amp and the sub. I would say go for the extra 30 watts a channel and get the zx6400, it is worth it for $40. unless you are really strapped for money. Also yeah get a nice 150 amp alternator and a good battery and you should be set.



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Posted By: bighauns
Date Posted: December 03, 2004 at 10:42 PM
I like that idea...what does everyone else think?? Please let me know.

thanks!

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