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Improving sound quality

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Topic: Improving sound quality

Posted By: markcars
Subject: Improving sound quality
Date Posted: December 21, 2004 at 3:59 PM

Even though I have some really good quality equpment in my car, I am still not satisfied with the sound quality therein. I can still feel something missing in terms of sound quality. I have attempted (and changed) everything including wires and even purchased Audiocontrol equalizers to add to my "system". The only thing I can think of now that is left are the door speakers position. Will they sound their optimal best if placed within some kind of enclosures rather than be in the plain "open" inside the door panels? And if yes, how can I get or make enclosures for my door speakers that fit inside the doors? If I plan on making enclosures for these what material is the best to use? Wood or fiberglass or something else? Are there anyone who do such work, such as build fiberglass enclosures for door speakers?



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Posted By: Teamrf
Date Posted: December 21, 2004 at 4:18 PM
You could build kick panels for your door speakers.... I think most people on here would use wood, and fiberglass for the kick panels.

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Posted By: xaudiopipex
Date Posted: December 21, 2004 at 4:21 PM
component system in the kick pannels are your best best for SQ.  the are as close as possible from equal distances from your ears as possible.  not only that, but component system sound so much better that ANY normal speaker i have ever heard.




Posted By: Ravendarat
Date Posted: December 21, 2004 at 5:06 PM
I am guessing that you want to keep the speakers in your doors to retain a factory look, at least if I remember your old posts well enough. While kickpods will generally give you the best results they wont look stock. You can fiberglass enclosers in your doors behind the speaker locations but most cars are very tight inbehind the speaker and where the window rolls down. If there is room to make enclosures than they will help out, particularily in the midbass department. Also if you havent already I would invest in some dynomat for the doors. Best thing to do is pull a speaker out of the factory location and roll the window all the way down and see what kinda space you have to play with. I did this in the doors of a civic for a freind and I used balsa wood to make a thin plate across the back and resined it.I then used resin and chop mat to do all around the sides of the speaker enclosure. I used balso wood because its very plyable and soaks up the resin really well, but it is kind fragile so you have to be carefull when manipulating it.

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Posted By: jeffchilcott
Date Posted: December 21, 2004 at 7:14 PM
or you could go with a pod built into the door like myself,   gave me enough clearence to mount a deep speaker, and the SQ I was looking for    

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Posted By: stevdart
Date Posted: December 21, 2004 at 8:16 PM

You could start with the very basics first.  I don't know how you sound-damped your doors, but I've found the greatest improvement in sq by dynamatting both skins:  the outer door skin and the door panel.  Cover all holes in the panel and use tape over holes that the dynamat isn't covering.  This panel represents the front panel of an enclosure and should be completely sealed.  And damping the outer door skin cuts out noises from the midbass stress that interferes with the music.  I've also tried using a Deflex sound absorbing panel directly behind the driver, but when the glass is down it isn't doing its job....and I didn't notice any difference (but the door was completely damped).

Actually, if I remember right, the speaker locations in the doors usually give a more optimum distance to your hearing than using kickpods (trying to remember a Kephart post on the subject...).  You could try leaving them in position and trying a slight rotation of the tweeter.





Posted By: markcars
Date Posted: December 23, 2004 at 2:28 PM
Thanks for all the advice genglemen. Always a pleasure to learn new things. So I am going to get enclosures built for the door speakers. I enquired about this and the cost I was told for making these enclosures was $300 per door. I think this is quite a lot of money to spend on enclosures for my doors. While I am at it, I am thinking of replacing my Rockford speakers with either Dynaudio, Boston Acoustings Pro6 or Z series or the Focals Component sets. Whats the best (In SQ) according to those who have had the chance of testing them all? Thanks.





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