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Is Pyle a good maker of equipment. What's your opinion on the PLCD38? I'm abuot to install one for the first time. Never messed with their equipment before. Is it easy to work with or is it going to be a pain in the @$$?

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Greed is for amateurs.

Disorder,chaos,anarchy now THAT is fun!!

...the lowest of the low. Have fun! Seriously though, just get the thing working and tell the guy not to bring trash like Pyle to you again.

i told you man this is real crappppppp posted_image

:)))))

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Head Unit:Alpine CDA 9835
6.5 MB Quart Pce 210
Amp:JBL 80.4
Amp:JBL 1200.1
Sub:Adire Brahma 12 MKII

i think back when i first started pyle had some good drivers but that was about 15 years ago. i bought some pyle drivers about 5 years ago and they held up to about half their rms power rated they hit pretty hard about as good as sony or legacey. if you are looking for a cheap pair of subs i just purchaced a pair of legacy 12" subs 50.00 brand new. they sound ok i have them running about 2000 watts now and i cannot blow them they can handel lots of power but they both are hitting around 90 db together no much for spl, and suck for sq, i am in the habbit for buying cheap subs and trying to blow them i would say pyle is better than legacy but thats about it

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The name says it all...

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Another company that USED to be good. It's sad to see so many companies go to the cheap route and ruin what they used to be.

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'85 Toy

Name implies. :P

Yeah supradude...i think we havent seen the last of it either. :(

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I need quality equipment, feel free to donate.

How about Pyramid?

I've never had any problem with my 300watt 2 chan. amp, and in another post, mentioned I bought a 1000 watt 2 chan. amp, 2 x10" 700 watt subs, and a MP3 Flip Face deck, for $130 new/refurb. off ebay.

I will never go in a competition, and just like having some extra thump, and hope Pyramid will supply that :)

Pyramid has go to be the worst of the worst. I would be surprised if that "1000 watt" amp put out even 100 watts!! Even wal mart doesnt stoop to selling pyramid!!

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What's with the pyramid bashing??? I have a pair of the 12" power pro subs, and they definetely piss off the whole neighborhood. They're gettin 400 watts a piece, and they freakin blopw. I keep hearin so much bad talk, but how many of yall have actually owned the stuff?? I do plan to upgrade to Planet Audio VC12D subs here in a little while, but i'm still gonna keep my Pyramids around

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Greed is for amateurs.

Disorder,chaos,anarchy now THAT is fun!!

I started my first system with pyramid sub,,than rockford fosgate and now mb quart...i found some difference in sq

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Head Unit:Alpine CDA 9835
6.5 MB Quart Pce 210
Amp:JBL 80.4
Amp:JBL 1200.1
Sub:Adire Brahma 12 MKII

my first amp was pyle the only thing is that it was underrated

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Head Unit:Alpine CDA 9835
6.5 MB Quart Pce 210
Amp:JBL 80.4
Amp:JBL 1200.1
Sub:Adire Brahma 12 MKII

Yeah, sure. Listen to the name. PYLe... ironic it is a PYLE OF SHAT....1400 Watt amp can barely push out 200 clean without 20% distortion and already start melting... Pyle=crap. Never buy it ever again. Look in this posts history, we discussed the horrible experiences of low audio equipment and pyle was there.

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"I don't play games. I play Nakamichi and that for real yo" - Probably some japanese kid said this in the early 80's trying to sell stereo out of his trunk lol.

I tell ya, I'm new to this board, and while I appreciate the knowledge that I've gained in reading the expert advice, that I really can't believe how many people think that Pyramid, Legacy, Pyle etc are total junk. I have had a 300 Watt Pyramid amp with a 10" MTX6104 in my car for almost 3 years now.

I am not a professional audio listener... but it seems insulting how some guys are like "it's total JUNK" etc. when it totally does the trick just fine for me... and I'm sure for MANY others...

Just because I do not want to spend a Zillion $$$ on the top stuff, doens't mean I can't enjoy my lower end stuff... some of u guys are just snobs...

--> this post was just referred to those that are like "it's Crap" or "Pyle of SHAT" etc...

rongant, i hate to tell you this, but we are not snobs. We know crap when we see it and pyle is just that, as well as pyramid and that kind of garbage. It is below the lowest of the low and the only reason i could imagine someone buying it is to destroy it (i.e. wall-socket test = massive fun).

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"I don't play games. I play Nakamichi and that for real yo" - Probably some japanese kid said this in the early 80's trying to sell stereo out of his trunk lol.

To me, Pyle is a Pyle of sh1t. There is so much out there that will cost a "little" more (~$50) and give you so much better results.

But if it's what you like and want, then by all means, go with it. I've quit trying to persuade people that Pyle, Boss, Pyramid, Bose, ect. arn't any good.

Paul

i used to have pyle sub and than i exchange it to Cerwin Vega Hed 12 Svc which costs around $ 50 but sounds much better on low and high volume

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Head Unit:Alpine CDA 9835
6.5 MB Quart Pce 210
Amp:JBL 80.4
Amp:JBL 1200.1
Sub:Adire Brahma 12 MKII

Note: the Pyle equipment isn't mine. A buddy got it for christmas and wants me to install it. No, the only thing that will replace my Pioneer 4600mp is Alpine's IVA-D300. Pyramid amps aren't the best from what i've seen but the subs are great. I know cause, for the tenth time i've said this, they are awesome. rongant has a true perception I believe. There is some serious dissing of equipment in here. Not all of us are as foruate as you, but then, our stuff may just be hooked up correctly. Personally, I think Sony is junk, simply because every piece of it i've ever seen has been brought to me because it's broke. It's all an opinion, so lay off the harshness.

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Greed is for amateurs.

Disorder,chaos,anarchy now THAT is fun!!

That's just the way it is in forums, guys. Those who know the equipment inside and out, and have experience with a lot of brands, know what's good and what's junk. Get over it. It's not snobbery, it's realism.

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Build the box so that it performs well in the worst case scenario and, in return, it will reward you at all times.

Exactly. Sevdart hit the nail on the head. I have actually dissected PYLE and PYRAMID equipment before and i have seen what crap they put in that stuff. Pop the cover off of one of their amps. Look at all the cheap conductors and barely metal terminals painted gold. Their subs you can poke a hole through with your finger basically. Everyone has an ear to determine if they like it or not, but you must need your hearing aides turned up if you think that stuff sounds good. at least upgrade to Cerwin Vega or rocford Fosgate. Ebay is my best friend, you should get to know him! This isn't snobbery, its realism!!! (Quote from stevedart).

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"I don't play games. I play Nakamichi and that for real yo" - Probably some japanese kid said this in the early 80's trying to sell stereo out of his trunk lol.

Some of you sound like you would be the time to say that Honda Civics and Toyota Tercels (for examples) are Crappy cars. Well the idea is, that they work, and they work good. They are reliable, and basic modes of transportation (I mean just basic onces, not hopped up ricers). I think the same goes for sound, where as I prefer to buy something that works, and for that matter, is guaranteed, for much less than you are saying. Speaking of EBAY??? I got 2x 10" 700Watt Pyramid subs, PLASTIC cone (can't put your finger through it at all) and Thick rubber surround... total price: $21 US funds. That's for BOTH of them...

Let's see how close of a deal you can come to that!

...........lol, why do you want to come into this forum and make that kind of impression?? Just stick around, hang loose, take the edge off, and read posts and replies for a couple of months here. There are some, actually a lot, of expert people giving up some of their time on this forum. You'll learn a lot. I did.

I did say in an earlier post in the thread that I was appreciative for the knowledge.

I just think that some people expect everything to be COMPETITION level, and that anything less is not worth it... well at the price, Pyramid IS worth it.

I will not go so far as to say the other brands are worth it, as I have not used them, but I would be curious as to how many people that talk so much trash about these low end models have actually owned them, as opposed to just making up stuff and jumping the hating bandwagon.

I have owned them and so have my wall sockets. Those subs can maybe handle half of that power rating if they are even decent. They are way overrated, pieces of junk. Terrible built quality, and will most likely blow on you soon. Maybe you should upgrade. $21 is crap clearly, so maybe if you spend double that you can get some Fosgate punch Z series and have a decent system. Pyle and Pyramid are absolute crap. Its not snobbery, its the truth. You know there is something wrong when you can get a 1000 watt sub for $25 and a 1400 watt amp that probably can't produce 200 clean for $30.

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"I don't play games. I play Nakamichi and that for real yo" - Probably some japanese kid said this in the early 80's trying to sell stereo out of his trunk lol.

if you are looking for a low end sub i would only go as low as lanzar the sound ok and can handel lots of power, but if your looking for a sub for 20.00 well i guess i would go with legacy, they can handle some power but not much either. im just going out on a lim with some of the cheap subs that i have tried to destroy in the past. lots of companies used to be good then they go to crap.ex. in 1995 lanzar could not be beat they were the best of the best, now i think pymarid bought them out for the name.crap,crap,crap

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Wheeler proves an excellent point. Anyone remember the old a/d/s ? That was the real deal then when directed bought them out they just went on the decline. Same thing with soundstream. Legacy and lanzar are low, but i'd recommend them if you only have $20 to work with...which is pretty sad...but hey, everyone has there budget. I still think you should save to upgrade to Cerwin Vega or Fosgate.

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"I don't play games. I play Nakamichi and that for real yo" - Probably some japanese kid said this in the early 80's trying to sell stereo out of his trunk lol.

There's something else. See, in my neck of the woods we can't get wheeler products. I've heard of it, but we don't have any stores around heree that sell the stuff. My Pyramids are hooked up to a Boss 850 watt, and I guess the auddio angels are smiling down on me, cause it runs quite nicely. But it is time for all that equipment to go away now, because I got my new Planet Audio stuff for chistmas. A pair of VC12D 12" subs, Apocalypse Series 500.4 Vortesx series 2250 Monoblock, Vortex Series 5 1/4 components, and 6x9's plus tons of new street wires. One reason I went all Planet.........Went to a car show. The Planet Audio PT Cruiser was there and So was the Alpine Type R car. Parked right next to each other, and both systems were cranked up. If I couldn't see the Alpine car, I would have never known it was there. It was interesting, because I've been told PA has nothing on Alpine, well screw that.........

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Greed is for amateurs.

Disorder,chaos,anarchy now THAT is fun!!

youre attempting to spend the budget of one new compact disc on a pair of subwoofers that you plan on yielding years of listening enjoyment. do the math, and dont sell yourself short! we tell you its crap, so that you can realize there is better stuff out there (at any budget), but $20, come on!!

simple things for simple minds i guess

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MECP certified, 5yrs experience, you probably otta listen bitch!!

how about this, it is kind of slow in my shop during the winter months in alaska, give me a solid budget scrap down deep so you will be happy. give me a budget let me know what you want to put the system in and i will give you some options, shipping included. let me know what you want ex. subs and an amp or whole system. you can send me a private message, this is for any one out there with a tight budget, to many forums out here for budget systems. this is a one time deal. i am opening up my self for a lot of work but if it will make you happy i will do it

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I have been out of town for a few days due to christmas and just got on here and saw the topic name and Kinda laughed about it because I am in the majority and think that pyrimid, legacy, boss, Power Acoustic, legacy and the like are junk. Are they the best at their level, I guess so, but sh*t in a gold box is still sh*t at the end of the day. Now saying that, I remeber something that forbidden said before and that is that the best equipment is the one that makes the customer happy, or something to that effect. If you have your pyrimid or legacy or whatever and you are happy with it, then regardless of what we tell you we arent going to change your mind. We can post THD ratings and actual rms ratings and efficency ratings and just about anything else but you arent going to care so I am not going to try. Enjoy your stuff and hope you have better success with it than everyone else I know who has it.

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double-secret reverse-osmosis speaker-cone-induced high-level interference distortion, Its a killer

I had loads of success with it Ravendarat :) ... The cone flew off and the driver caught fire! That was with a PYLE PG12 lol.

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"I don't play games. I play Nakamichi and that for real yo" - Probably some japanese kid said this in the early 80's trying to sell stereo out of his trunk lol.

I deal with this stuff all the time. I am the only one in my school who knows anything about car audio (no boasting, its the sad truth). Other kids think they are the shiz with their pyramid, visonik and sony products. I try to set them in the right direction, but they usually dont get what im saying untill they hear my system. Which is nothing to speak of cimpared to what most of you guys have, but still contains quality products.

If all the stores nearby only sell pyramid, pyle etc. (and a truer version of hell I cant imagine) then buy online!! You can find products twice as good for the same price. And if we are going to compare subs to cars, I would say pyle and the rest of the bottom of the barrel crap would compare well to a yugo, or a pinto...unreliable, poor performers and prone to blowing up.

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Visonik makes crap woofers but they make decent amps! So we can't be too hard on them. I actually have been entertained by one in a friends car, that class T series thing and it sounded pretty darn good! No joking, it actually sounded like it was worth what he paid for it. He had it hooked up to some MTX woofers so it all came out on top. Nothing with pyramid is good. It can only lead to the corruption of your soul and wallet as well lead you into your ultimate mental demise from it having a breakdown or your central core overloading and suffering a supreme meltdown (thanks George Lucas)... Remember, adire is your father. Search your bank account, you know it to be true.

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"I don't play games. I play Nakamichi and that for real yo" - Probably some japanese kid said this in the early 80's trying to sell stereo out of his trunk lol.

The old school Visonik amps are sweet. The really long 3000watt ones kick some serious ass. But the ones im talkin about come in a set with 2 subs for like $100 at pep boys. They look sort of like jensen amps.

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speaking of pyramid. Remember a few months ago when i told you about a guy that won a sound off with 6 15 inch squares. I bought me two 15 inch squares off ebay for 99 shipped. I had them in a prefab sealed enclosure that was made for 2 15 inch kicker squares and i was running them off of my jbl 1200.bp 1 amp. They were nice and loud. Then i decided i wanted my eclispe 15's back in. So i decided to switch subs. So i put my 2 15 inch eclispe in and i noticed a difference right away. I though i was loud boy did them eclispe put them to shame real quick off the same amp. Point of the story is it made be loud at the time but i bet if you changed to higher end subs you will notice the difference right away cause with me it was like night and day and i have had plenty of systems going from rockford to mtx to jl audios. Just about everything and i know pyramid is cheap but it works good until you switch to higher end brands and you will never go back.

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goingcrazyonsound

ya know wut 'skylark' - that's the SMARTEST and best post in this thread...

I'm not saying pyramid is the best, but that they work, and that for the money, and my level of involvement with car stereo's, they do JUST FINE... If I ever blow my 300wat Pyramid amp, or my MTX6104 then I'll probably get something bigger off ebay or something better etc, but if it ain't broke, don't fix it is my motif...

in terms of my car itself however, there ARE a few things that are broke that could use some financial attention, muffler, shocks, winter tires posted_image

I think your post was by far the DUMBEST rongant, as well as your other posts you have done. Listen to what we are saying here. You can do way better than pyramid for about the same money. It will make a night and day difference. Throw that crap away or put it in your closet and just buy new woofers! For god sakes you can get this rockford fosgate punch Z for $12 right now (https://cgi.ebay.com/dll?ViewItem&category=39774&item=5739668191&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW) and that will smoke that pyramid easily. Upgrade, its worth it!

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"I don't play games. I play Nakamichi and that for real yo" - Probably some japanese kid said this in the early 80's trying to sell stereo out of his trunk lol.

uthinkuknoaudio, what I think he is saying, underneath it all, is that for his level of audio involvement, there are more important things for him to worry about than upgrading his audio gear. What he has now does the trick, so it's not much of an issue.

But, to say that his posts are the dumbest is just a little too much. Maybe you should step back and let cooler heads take care of rongant, rather than you bashing him for not seeing things your way. You are not helping matters here or in any other threads were you personally attack people for not "listen(ing) to what we are saying here."

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VEHICLE: 2002 GMC Sonoma ZR2
Alpine CDA-7940
AudioControl EQT x2
JL Audio 1000/1
JL Audio 10W6 (originals) x3
Kicker ZR120
Kicker ZR460
Polk GXR-6 x4
Polk GXR-4 x2

uthinkuknoaudio - I can just see it... X-mas morning: "Merry xmas Bro, here's somebody's used equipment with no warranty at all".

I think I'll take something with a 2 year warranty over something with a ZERO SECOND warranty...

I assume you must know this guy? what, ... do you get 10% if you help him sell it?!?!

If Pyramid or Pyle works for you thats fine...keep it. All we are trying to say is that you could have done better for the money (and we arn't saying you have to use ebay to do so).

Customsuburb has it right, and i got you paradigm. Just understand where i'm coming from. I aint bashing anyone, just don't start a thread if you don't want to hear the stuff in it. Respect all the opinions. Credit is given when credit is due - remember that. By the way rongant, you said you'd take something with a 2 year warranty of a 0 second warranty. Whats the point? The 0 seconds is how long that sub would last with clean power to it. Rockford Fosgate is a reputable name and you can trust them. Their woofers will last longer than 2 years easy if you take care of them, unlike the pyle/pyramid garbage which i owned once for experimentation...After it sounded horrible on my US amp (Extremely clean power <0.006%THD) i decided to hell with it, and its destiny was the wall socket. PG12...that stands for ...POOF...and....GONE...in just 1,2 seconds....Just listen to us and understand what your saying. i get where your coming from, understand where i'm at.

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"I don't play games. I play Nakamichi and that for real yo" - Probably some japanese kid said this in the early 80's trying to sell stereo out of his trunk lol.

Pyle audio