Rockford is just dumb
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Topic: Rockford is just dumb
Posted By: Ravendarat
Subject: Rockford is just dumb
Date Posted: January 01, 2005 at 11:11 PM
I couldnt think of a better name for this thread. If you go to RF's main page right now they have a link that compares old RF amps with the new ones. The compare things like te Punch 60 DSm to the Punch 5002 and the Punch 45.2 to the Punch 2002. The Idea is to show that the old stuff wasnt better than the new stuff, it was just perception. They do make an intro to the article trying to explain that the point sint to sh*t on the old stuff but simply show the advances they have made. My problem with it is that for example they compare the Punch 60 DSM to the Punch 5002. The 60 as a retail of 429 while the 5002 has a retail of 399. BUT THE DAMN RETAIL OF THE 60 IS FROM 11 years ago. Thats just a stupid way to pair them up for comparison. They are all like that though. They used price to match them up and the new stuff comes out on top every time. Well no sh*t it does, being that the old amps were a higher quality build the materials were more expensive and the overall manufacturing process was more expensive so of course the amps were more expensive. I just saw this little comparrison and I though it was so stupid it had to be wrote about. Mabye I am off my rocker though and someone can set me strait, I dunno.
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Posted By: MAXST
Date Posted: January 01, 2005 at 11:30 PM
Email them about it. You right...that is a stupid thing to do.
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Posted By: Ravendarat
Date Posted: January 01, 2005 at 11:35 PM
I sent the email to them bfore I posted the original message on here. If I have something to say I will get it off my chest right away. Sometimes it bites me in the ass but I guess thats the price you pay for being opinionated.
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Posted By: gcorrea
Date Posted: January 02, 2005 at 12:59 AM
rockford fosgate + lightning audio = crap just my opinion. ------------- gcorrea
Posted By: Ravendarat
Date Posted: January 02, 2005 at 1:25 AM
dont get me wrong, I am not bashing the Rockford Product in any way shape or form. I just thought the "Unbiased comparison" was a load of sh*t.
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Posted By: petergozinya
Date Posted: January 02, 2005 at 5:50 AM
IZ Ther any won willing to bench them on here.OLDscool rockford's can pull some juice......but have thay gotten any beter...god only know's how much money thay got from us as kid's. DID THEY USE THAT MONEY TO MAKE (insert answer here) sorry rockford guy's(cheese flapping in the wind) Thad
Posted By: redchevy99
Date Posted: January 03, 2005 at 2:42 AM
The new Fosgate amps do suck. My friend had a 1200 watt amp that actually pushed 400 watts. The only way that amp would put out 1200 watts is if it was struck by lightning.
Posted By: soundmasta
Date Posted: January 15, 2005 at 8:59 AM
rockford went down hill when they started selling at abc and best buy. i used to run one of their older amps and it was solid. i've since installed a couple of their newer ones and they are garbage. kicker is going to do the same in a couple of years i bet. just like sony did, and pioneer, and jvc....the list goes on. remember the fosgate symetrey? so far ahead of technology for the time, and now they are making 400 watt 1200watt amps. they rate their stuff with the ILS factor....If Lighting Strikes...total sh*t. i hate to see that hapen to such a reputable company.
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Posted By: auex
Date Posted: January 15, 2005 at 9:20 AM
Damn there is alot of brand bashing that has nothing to do with a companies products lately.
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Posted By: esmith69
Date Posted: January 15, 2005 at 10:31 AM
auex]D wrote:
mn there is alot of brand bashing that has nothing to do with a companies products lately.
Amen to that, I love my RF amp. ------------- Ethan
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Posted By: promodeepcycle
Date Posted: January 15, 2005 at 10:37 AM
No brand bashing here, BUT I would take a punch60Dsm over a new 5002 anyday. PERIOD
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Posted By: DYohn
Date Posted: January 15, 2005 at 10:56 AM
It's not uncommon for manufacturer-sponsored "comparisons" or "tests" to be biased so that they show exactly what they want them to show. This is especially true for large commercial companies like RF. Government tests are often biased the same way. Independent labs offer tests that are usually much more meaningful. ------------- Support the12volt.com
Posted By: customsuburb
Date Posted: January 15, 2005 at 1:25 PM
The person who wrote that their 1200 watt amp was putting out 400 watts in real life was probobly reading the maximum power rating... I feel that RF still makes quality equipment even though they have grown alot since they produced their older amps. By the way, I dont know if anyone has mentioned it already but, RF is producing "limited edition" old school punch amps it looks like also. https://www.rockfordfosgate.com/press/assets/2005_RF_25toLIFE_amps.pdf
Posted By: forbidden
Date Posted: January 15, 2005 at 1:57 PM
Meh....too much to say and not enough time to say it in. ------------- Top Secret, I can tell you but then my wife will kill me.
Posted By: supradude
Date Posted: January 15, 2005 at 8:21 PM
Their subs still sound good. I think they have done like Orion and a lot of other companies and started trying to sort of mislead people on the power of their amps. They are definitly not bad as Sony, Audiobahn, etc.
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Posted By: wheelerdr
Date Posted: January 15, 2005 at 11:35 PM
I have not use their amp in about 4 years but I still stan by their subs, yes rickford makes some bottom line stuff to. but if they didn't there is alot of people that could not afford the rf name and would seek else where, this is their way of getting into the lower income level.a lot of companies make lower level as well as quality products that cost, but with the comp. now days you have to get to some of the lower class to make money.i started out very poor and i new some people that were well off, did they want systems not to many of them, but all of that were considered poor were always putting systems together. and if there were no compainies i could afford i would have been sol.
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Posted By: wheelerdr
Date Posted: January 16, 2005 at 6:26 AM
I just ordered a hole new line of rf products have any question give me a pm and i will give specs, i do sell amps but have not benched them in a while, I work by a colledge campuse and most of my customers cannot afford to much, they usually buy eclips or kenwood, I used to sell planet audio, and memphis but customer service seems to have gone down hill. sorry for last post just went off a little
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Posted By: petergozinya
Date Posted: January 16, 2005 at 7:30 PM
I geuss mostly my biased opinion on RF came from the atitudes of people using thier products claiming insane statement's like there is nothing beter. I saw alot of kid's droppin $2 grand on RF but they couln't touch my 18in earthquake($100) ppi amp ($200) linear power amp to macrom componet's($200) you could hear me coming 1/2 mile away and it still sounding good in the cabin. yes i agree RF has a vast model range. old memories i geuss.
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