which sub is better?
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Topic: which sub is better?
Posted By: wyldman671
Subject: which sub is better?
Date Posted: January 04, 2005 at 11:35 AM
generally speaking, which sub is can reproduce quality sound 12'' or 15''? and of these two sizes what manufacturer would you recommend for good clean sound,hard hitting,and overall good pricing.i have heard kicker very frequently,but have also been told mtx. any suggestions?
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Posted By: pimpincavy
Date Posted: January 04, 2005 at 1:14 PM
Of those two I would say a 12 would lean more towards SQ, and a 10 would be even better. But it really depends more on the brand of sub rather then the size. Some good SQ companies to look at are Image Dymanics, Infinity, Elemental Designs and Adire subs all offer great SQ. Kicker is more of a SPL styled sub.
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Posted By: Lizardking
Date Posted: January 04, 2005 at 8:20 PM
Eclipse 7100,8100 and 9100 series pretty much any size Excellent SQ!! Adire and Elemental Designs would be a good choice and there cheap! Diamond Audio subs sound pretty clean. What's your budget?
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Posted By: Drewt
Date Posted: January 04, 2005 at 9:04 PM
I have an infinity kappa perfect 12" sub. It is not the loudest, but it sounds really, really nice. Stick it in a sealed or bandpass enclousure, and it'll sound good
Posted By: esmith69
Date Posted: January 04, 2005 at 9:33 PM
gotta start with budget...what are you looking to spend? or maybe I should ask, what is the maximum you're willing to spend? usually 12s will give better SQ than 15s, but there are of course some exceptions. also, like Drewt I am very impressed with the Kappa Perfects. I prefer them in sealed enclosures, with a moderate amount of power going to them. ------------- Ethan
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Posted By: audiobass10
Date Posted: January 04, 2005 at 9:50 PM
Drewt] wrote:
p>I have an infinity kappa perfect 12" sub. It is not the loudest, but it sounds really, really nice. Stick it in a sealed or bandpass enclousure, and it'll sound good
Bandpass enclosures weren't designed to reproduce good sq..I would highly suggest not throwing any pair of subs in a pre fab bandpass enclosure. It will sure take a toll on your subs and sound like a fart cannon IMO. If you're leaning twoards sq..go sealed. Better to build a sealed box yourself to manufacture specs than to just throw it in a prefab box. If you want SQL or SPL id suggest ported. But really research and do your homework before making a ported box. ------------- Dave
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Posted By: Drewt
Date Posted: January 04, 2005 at 10:19 PM
I've got it in a sealed box with about 1.1 cu ft. of airspace. It is driven by an Alpine MRD-M501 amp, which pushes 578 watts (Alpine bench tests the amps in the factory and gives you a certificate of the actually RMS power....nice) It really sounds nice. It adds so much depth to the music, and it reproduces bass so accurately. Now, I just need to add a cap to it, and then I'll be in good shape. Ok, back to the box thing. I've got a sealed box now, and it's nice and all, but I want to at least try something more complex. I was thinking about a bandpass, but instead of having ports on one side and sealed on the other, have a passive radiator (or possibly 2 10" radiators) on one side, and a small sealed enclousre on the other. That way I'll get the SQ of an acoustic suspention setup, and the SPL of a passive radiator system. I may just try it, then if it sounds like crap, I'll put the sub back in the sealed box..... -Drew
Posted By: Drewt
Date Posted: January 04, 2005 at 10:26 PM
hmmm....couldn't find an edit function.....oh well..... The big downside to the bandpass mentioned above is that the frequency responce would probally be really bad in the low end.....which is really where the perfects shine.....It says it'll go to 18 Hz, not shure how acurate that is, since I don't have the necessary equiptment to test it..... -Drew (btw....if there is an edit function...someone please let me know.....I would feel dumb)
Posted By: pimpincavy
Date Posted: January 05, 2005 at 12:24 PM
You can only edit after you reach a certin amout of posts. Newbies cannot edit thier posts.
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Posted By: Drewt
Date Posted: January 05, 2005 at 3:15 PM
ok, thanks. That seems like an add thing to have as a "privladge"......oh well Anyone have input on that box I was talking about above? I just talked to my box-builder person (personal friend that helped me with the box I have now), and he says he isn't up to building another box now, since he already has to build a complex, dual woofer bandpass box for a friend. So I will probally never build the box, at least not until summer. Thanks -Drew
Posted By: uthinkuknoaudio
Date Posted: January 05, 2005 at 3:47 PM
Out of those two i would say MTX....But if you got the extra money spend $125 a wooder and get an Adire Shiva. Its worth it. ------------- "I don't play games. I play Nakamichi and that for real yo" - Probably some japanese kid said this in the early 80's trying to sell stereo out of his trunk lol.
Posted By: specialauto
Date Posted: January 06, 2005 at 2:06 PM
JJJJBBBLLLL!!!!!! i think jbl is the best.. the gto and power series are nuts!
it could be quite $$$ but still jbl is the best for subs and amps..
just look at there retail they have the mot powerful and the biggest amp right now
still there are ones up there too.. mtx, audiobahn and hifonices are up there for me... ------------- Canadian Auto Sound
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