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I have a 85 Monte Carlo SS and im tryin to have the loudest system with decent spl in my town. I currently bought the audiobahn 3-way 6x9 speakers and a fosgate 400.4 amp to power my speakers. Im trying to get the following. (2) aw1200Q audiobahn subs in a downfiring bandpass box, and a Soundstorm 700.2 amp. I can get all of this for $200. Here is the info

Aw1200q Subs

12" Dual Voice Coil Subwoofers

700W RMS / 1400W Peak Power Per Sub

Dual 4Ù Voice Coils

2-Layer Poly Coated Cone

2.5" Dual Voice Coils

120 oz. Magnet Weight

2" PHAT Foam Surround For Linear Cone Travel

20-500Hz Frequency Response

92.7dB Sensitivity

Mounting Depth 5-5/8"

Cutout Diameter 11-1/8"

1Ù, 4Ù, or Dual 2Ù Operation

Downfiring Bandpass Box

Box made of 3/4" MDF

3/8" curved plexiglass window

FOUR 4" x 5" CHROME ports

Black exterior carpet and gray interior carpet

TWO smooth cut 12" speaker holes

TWO silver plated terminals

Box measures 30"x15"x15"

Soundstorm 700.2 Amp

Max watts/ch at 2 OHMS. 700W x 2
RMS watts/ch at 4 OHMS 250W x 2
Bridged Power at 4 OHMS 1400W x 1
S/N ratio 102dB
Low pass crossover continuously variable 40Hz ~ 150Hz
High pass crossover 200Hz
Bass boost 0~+18dB
Remote subwoofer level control yes
Frequency response 20Hz~50KHz(+/-3dB)
THD @ RMS output 0.01%
Channel seperation 90dB
Damping facto 125+

Please guys give me some input and advise thanks

im tryin to have the loudest system with decent spl in my town.
You live in a small town, do ya? ...lol... But what exactly are you asking here? How can you go wrong with PHAT foam surrounds and CHROME ports?

Generally its a rule of thumb that the loudest system in most any town cannot be had for 200 dollars. You also must ask yourself the question, "Why can I get the subs, box and amp all for 200 Dollars, whats the catch". The catch is that the equpment you listed is, well, crap. List your budget on here and lets see if we can mabye put something better together for you. What you listed wont be all that loud and definatly wont sound very good, I would avoid it.

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double-secret reverse-osmosis speaker-cone-induced high-level interference distortion, Its a killer

be prepared for the attack on audiobahn and other inexpensive equipment from others...

For the money you will spend initially and eventually on this stuff, will soon become more than if you invest in some good stuff right away.
bandpass boxes are notorious for blowing subs if not setup with the up most attention and proper filters. It is nearly impossible to hear distortion in this type of enclosure. be careful!

If you are looking for something inexpensive yet functional I would consider MTX, some of the fosgate stuff, alpine can be affordable, USamps I think...

more from others I'm sure, adire? nak? haha

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If you want it to be real laud with lots of spl, back in 1995 I had a 1985 ss and I took out the back set put 2 18" rockfordfosgate punch ported enclosure. sounded very loud, but that if you want to give up the seat. other than that give a budget and how much room your willing to give up in your trunk

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US Amps is pretty pricey. 1 Fosgate P312 and 1 Kenwood 8101D (check the net for great prices on these not so expensive performers) should get you started, though keep in mind you will still need an an amp power/signal kit, which for a 1000 watt amp will surely require 4 guage, and a box.. In my opinion, if you have $200 now, save for the next 3 months, or however long it takes, and get GOOD equipment. Cheap stuff only costs more in the long run, so keep that in mind.

slammedb5 is there something wrong with 1 fosgate p312 and 1 kenwood 811d, or were you suggesting this

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lol, audiobahn. That PHAT Surround and chrome really helps! Me and stevdart have hit around 200 db with all that chrome! I also put some tinfoil on my woofers and since it looked like chrome i hit around 203 db. Isn't that right stevdart?

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"I don't play games. I play Nakamichi and that for real yo" - Probably some japanese kid said this in the early 80's trying to sell stereo out of his trunk lol.

yo most of these people on the borads think everyone and thier momma has butt loads of money to spend on equipment. Not every one is trying to win at sound meets and competitions. yo if your budget $200 hundred then work with that. I would say audiobahn does kind of suck even though its cheap. Ive seen so many people blow them. for a reasonable priced speaker i would recomend Ma Audio woofers. yes people are gona say they suck but man for the price u cant go wrong. Ive probably put in about 15 to 20 Ma Audio subs in different cars and i have yet to get any that have blown on me. my first set of Ma audio subs that i got about 8 years ago did r still bumping strong. My cheapo BOSS amp that was pushing ended up frying after about 7 years but i went bought another BOSS amp for like $40 (supercheap) and boom they bump. Yea yea yea sure im not gona go win any comps but for my daily driver its cool. i mean you can go spend thousands of dollars on equipment and get a super system, but lets see how you feel when someone (SO VERY EASILY) breaks in your car and takes everything you got. i mean come one you drive an 88 monte carlo, what is that like $400 yes four hundred dollar blue book value. Man when you post dont listen to most of the people on the board everyone thinks their some pro installer. those who start naming all this expensive equipment are the ones living in La La land where no ones broke apperently.

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It Can always be Done, The question is do you have the MONEY!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hey now, no need to rag on the guy. Like Jugador says, not everyone is made of money. Mcss1320, I think the important thing to remember here is that there have to be compromises.

Unless there's less than a hundred or so people in your town, you have to realize that $200 is not going to get you the loudest system. It's just inevitable that there will be many other people out there who also want the loudest system but are willing to pay a more reasonable amount of money to get that loudest system.

So, back to my point about compromises. If $200 is your budget, then you have to be content to have a loud (but not the loudest) system. mtx is a good brand to shoot for, especially this time of the year when last year's models will soon go on clearance. I think that amp will do fine for what you want it to do, though I know others will disagree with me.

If your budget is higher than $200, then let us know and we can try to cook up some other choices for you.

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Ethan
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Fosgate Punch Z = Good and cheap. MA and Audiobahn are terrible lol, so i suggest you go with Fosgate.

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"I don't play games. I play Nakamichi and that for real yo" - Probably some japanese kid said this in the early 80's trying to sell stereo out of his trunk lol.

uthinkuknoaudio wrote:

Fosgate Punch Z = Good and cheap. MA and Audiobahn are terrible lol, so i suggest you go with Fosgate.

I agree. If you can get them at a good price, RF are also a very good choice.

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Ethan
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"Patience, persistence, and perspiration make an unbeatable combination for success"
Donate to the12volt.com

they suck but man for the price u cant go wrong...jugador
You just don't get how you're being hyped by audiobahn. That's just the problem....the price for the quality. It's low-quality, overpriced and driven to a market of new buyers who buy into the hype. Back in the day it was the same kinda people who chose their boom boxes by how many flashing lights, number of exposed speakers, whistles and bells.....Trust me, chrome isn't a precious metal.
I'll take BLOOD RED any day LoL
yo, and I'll clue ya in on something: most of the people who respond on these 'borads' (this one, anyway) take time out of their lives to help others get some value for their buck and save them from costly mistakes. You can spend your money wisely or spend it like a fool, it's up to you.

Just use my friend called "ebay" for those fosgates. Search your $200 wallet, you know Punch Z to be your destiny.

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"I don't play games. I play Nakamichi and that for real yo" - Probably some japanese kid said this in the early 80's trying to sell stereo out of his trunk lol.

JL W0 subs...should be on sale right now because of the new W1v2s coming out. They are pretty decent and im sure you can find them cheap on ebay or somewhere eles online. Get some 15s and put them in a nice and big ported box built to spec. They only need 125 watts a piece so you don't need that big of an amp either.

This would be a pretty good system that would get you decent SPL (your probobly not going to win any competitions but you will be heard).

https://www.cardomain.com/item/ROCP115S82PAK Rockford 15" P1 subs (8 ohm versions)

https://www.cardomain.com/item/BLAPCA2100 Blaupunkt 2 channel amp (300 watts continuous when bridged).

That's $260 right there. Build your own box and buy a cheap wiring kit from walmart and you'll be boomin'.

Well, if you want a real steal, just get 2 Adire Shivas for about $250. They are crazy subs and they will pound JL W0's out of the house... Save up the extra dinero my friend. (or of course go with Punch Z's)

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"I don't play games. I play Nakamichi and that for real yo" - Probably some japanese kid said this in the early 80's trying to sell stereo out of his trunk lol.

save up the money and do it right the first time. i started off with a cheap system and worked my way up with 3 full upgrades. in the end i just said f**k it, i was spending twice the amount of money over time then if i saved it and spent it all at once on the system i really wanted. i ate pasta and drank water for a couple of monthes and put together a sq system which in my opinion is extremely good and pretty loud to show up kids who say it sucks because i dont crank it up. save up a grand or 2 and you can have an amazing system. people on here will help you get the best bang for your buck. sorry for the non technical rambling, but i hate watching people waste their money upgrading their systems and never being satisfied with what they have

jugador wrote:

Man when you post dont listen to most of the people on the board everyone thinks their some pro installer.

Your New on here so I am gonna take it easy on you. I am gonna clue you in on a little secret. Come on, get closer, closer, closer, just a little bit closer ............................................ ok the secret is ALOT OF US ARE PROFESSIONAL INSTALLERS! Listen I am not ever gonna sit here and dog someone because they have a low budget because like most people I started out the exact same way. When I was younger I owned junk like american legacy and pyramid. Supersound subs and lear jet speakers. Its just the way it works. But for future reference dont ever tell someone to outright IGNORE the suggestions of others unless you have a damn good reason to back it up. I think the suggestions of saving up for a few more months and buying better equipment is definatly a sound piece of advice. Even a hundred dollars more to this cats budget can greatly improve what he can end up with. If he comes back on here and says, "No I wanna get my stuff right away and I am only gonna have 200 bucks" then we will do our best to get him exact links to the gear that suits him and we can go from there. But until he comes back on here and says something to that effect, I think all these options should be left open.

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double-secret reverse-osmosis speaker-cone-induced high-level interference distortion, Its a killer

Man like i said Mcss1320, people on this board dont understand the concept that peopl are broke. The man said he had a two hundred $200 budget. DUHHHHHHHHHHHH and look at the amp his working with, u guys are sugestings subs that wont even work with his amp. I guess u guys on the board dont see that when some one states a question such as he ask? u dont listen to the most important fact. His on a budget $200. Mcss1320 go with what u got just change the audiobahn subs. u can catch Ma Audio cheap $50- $90 well in ur $200 dollar budget. Yea im new to the board Mcss1320, but i would like to apologize to u on behalf of the board for them not listening to your question. Peace Suckers

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It Can always be Done, The question is do you have the MONEY!!!!!!!!!!!!

DYohn, just kick this guy off of this server. This guy is a complete retard and is not respecting our advice. Jugador "player"... Well, this is how this game is played. He asks for advice, he gets advice. We don't need people like you coming in here and insulting us. Not all people are broke, some of them just don't have the determination to save up for a decent system. Ravendarat has it right, with even a couple hundred extra we could make this system good. His current budget is $200, not his final budget jackass. I only got $300 in my pocket right now, but i'll save the extra 2 months so i can afford (3) 12'' Nak SPW1200D DVC 6 ohm woofers and then i'll be blastin! Its called saving up and penny pinching. Mcss1320, seriously reconsider your budget and what you want out of your system. Different amp, different subs. Peace sucker posted_image

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"I don't play games. I play Nakamichi and that for real yo" - Probably some japanese kid said this in the early 80's trying to sell stereo out of his trunk lol.

No one will get kicked off this forum for offering up their opinions. What will get the attention of the mods, however, are violations of Forum Rules and Guidelines which includes a section described under "Personal Attacks".......

Nobody's advice or comment on this forum has to be "respected". Some of us need to take that into consideration before we start name-calling.

Otherwise, the original author of this thread probably forgot he ever put the post on here to begin with. There was never a mention in his post that he was on a $200 budget....it was some package deal of some kind, maybe from a friend who already smoked the amp or a bid on fleabay or something. All in all, not real important.