need help w/ IPod
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Topic: need help w/ IPod
Posted By: 97Avalonxls
Subject: need help w/ IPod
Date Posted: January 31, 2005 at 11:12 AM
Ok, here is my question. I have been looking into Ipod integration fo r my car and i had an idea. I want to know if it is possible to run the ipod in it's home cradle (ipod to dual rca) and from there to a variable out voltage line out converter. Then match the LOC to the same power as my HU and have the LOC rcas run into one side of a Male to two female rca splitter, with my HU signale going into the other. I wire an additional remote wite with a switch to the amp.Then I just turn the HU off, switch on the amp, and I have an Ipod acting as my HU. While I realize that this is goig to mean sacrificeing the tuning capabilities of the HU and Processor, but is there any reason it wouldn't work?
Ps the reason to match the LOC to my HU power is so the same amp setting will work for the ipod as for my hu I might be misusing the term LOC, I might be talking about a Line Driver, please forgive my ignorance. Basically I want either the above mentioned idea, or a preamp eq, either way, so long as it has 4 volt outputs, I'd need four outputs and one sub out.
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Posted By: brivalen
Date Posted: January 31, 2005 at 11:32 AM
get an FM mod or a AUX input - why bother with all that other crap?
Posted By: 04MDX4SQ
Date Posted: January 31, 2005 at 11:34 AM
There is a unit that will do all of this without y-cables. The unit is the Peripheral SS2P. It has 2 source in / 1 out with independent gain settings for both inputs. This unit and a 3 position switch to toggle sources is all you would need.
Posted By: 97Avalonxls
Date Posted: January 31, 2005 at 12:17 PM
the FM mods are complete garbage in my opinion, I had on for my SAT radio and was so unhappy that I had to cancel my SAT radio subscription. If my HU had any AUX inputs this thread would have never existed. 04mdx, I will look into this unit you are describing, it certianly sounds good. can you elaborate on how to wire the 3 poisiton toggle you are talking about. how many poles? how many throws? wire what to what
Posted By: 97Avalonxls
Date Posted: January 31, 2005 at 12:51 PM
would something like this work, any idea about how to find the output voltage? https://cgi.ebay.com/dll?ViewItem&category=79841&item=5748502582&rd=1 the peripheral item won't unfortunatly. I' would need three of them, i have front rear and sub rcas now, so I'd need one of those for each
Posted By: brivalen
Date Posted: January 31, 2005 at 12:57 PM
i dont think you understand - that peripherial unit created AUX inputs. No need to find evrey speaker wire. There are several companies that make AUX inputs, PAC, Periphial, Soundgate, etc. They mostly use the Cd changer input and convert it to regular RCA's so you can use it for anything. What kind of car do you ahve and what stereo is in it? Please me specific with year make and model.
Posted By: 97Avalonxls
Date Posted: January 31, 2005 at 1:27 PM
ok, here's why this is more complicated than you all see. I currently have a clarion drx9575z running to a dph7500z. from the HU to the processor is clarion CeNet cable, from the processor to the amps are three rca pairs, front,rear, and sub. Since my HU has no AUX inputs, and the changer controls, are being used to control the processor. so, as you can see. it isn't a simple plug and play to add an IPOD. so my question is how can i add the IPOD? the idea I have posed is to use the ipod as the source unit, run it through a preamp eq, with front rear and sub outs, and then connect them to the amp. shouldn't be a problem so long as they aren't both on at the same time. doesn anyone have any input or other suggestions?
Posted By: alpineguy678
Date Posted: January 31, 2005 at 8:10 PM
Change out your Clarion and buy and Alpine HU with the new KCA-420i iPod adapter. This piece will give you complete control of your iPod through the HU. You can lock the iPod away and not even need to see it. Oh, by the way, it charges your iPod as well.
Posted By: 97Avalonxls
Date Posted: February 01, 2005 at 9:48 AM
that has to be the least helpful response i have ever gotten on any forum
Posted By: jvillefinest
Date Posted: February 01, 2005 at 11:06 AM
yea sounds great go ahead and get it done...its your stuff do what you want. they are just saying the things they would do. ------------- 2007 Acura TSX
SQ setup in the works
Posted By: alpineguy678
Date Posted: February 01, 2005 at 5:24 PM
brivalen wrote:
get an FM mod or a AUX input - why bother with all that other crap?
I don't see how my response is any more useless than this one. I just told you the best, easiest way to do it.
Posted By: 97Avalonxls
Date Posted: February 02, 2005 at 8:42 AM
well first of all, forgive my terse response I did not intend for it to be reporoachful, I was simply frustrated at the response. second, the above response, at least the fm transmiter portion is a twenty dollar addition that is the most common means of adding a peripheral component to a stereo. you suggested I get rid of my head unit, my processor and buy a new source unit. while that would certainly be an effective solution, at the expense of two perfectly functioning units, and the price of the new hu, plus the adapter, that seems like well over a thousand dollar swing just to add an mp3 player. since the original post is asking about the soundness of one idea, that would cost about 95 dollars. I feel like your reply was not really aimed at helping. but as I said at the beginning, I didn't mean to be harsh, and I thank you for at least looking to help me with my problem. If you have any input as far as that goes, it would still be very much appriciated.
Posted By: torkey
Date Posted: February 07, 2005 at 11:18 AM
your best option is FM mod...its the cheapest and most effective way to get mp3 into ur system... u will be wasting ur time with source selectors and adapters to bypass ur HU and Processor.. why would u want to do that and let ur ipod go directly thru the amp? its crazy.... go Fm mod at least that way ur mp3's might sound like an fm station but its not gonna be far better off..that way u can still adjust ur EQ to overcome any shortfall of signal from ur ipod thru the Fm MOD... ------------- Yes we aussies know a thing or two about 12 volts..
Posted By: Drewt
Date Posted: February 07, 2005 at 7:21 PM
See if you can get an aux-input with a pass-thru so you can still connect your processor.... -Drew
Posted By: customsuburb
Date Posted: February 07, 2005 at 8:49 PM
You could try an Audiocontrol FOUR.1I. It has an auxillary input and the equalizer is defeatable. https://www.audiocontrol.com/MobileAudio/Products/InDash/Four1i.html Heres what you would do: Connect the front and rear rca preouts from your processor to the input of the Four.1I Then connect the iPod to the auxillary input on the four.1I. It has front, rear, and sub preouts plus a volume control and fader. When you are using your Clarion CD player you can use the button on front that turns the equalizer off. When you want to use your Ipod you can push the auxillary button on front and use the EQ to tune the sound from your Ipod a little. You could leave the volume control on the four.1I all the way and use the Ipods volume control. You could also leave the Ipod's volume control all the way up or until it starts to clip (probobly a better idea) and use the volume on the front of the four.1 instead. Another option might be to use the aux. input on the Four.1I only and not the preamp inputs. Then find a switcher that can switch between the front, rear, and sub outs from your Clarion deck and the four.1I's preamp outputs. I don't know where you would find such a product though.
Posted By: customsuburb
Date Posted: February 07, 2005 at 9:03 PM
Posted By: 97Avalonxls
Date Posted: February 08, 2005 at 9:05 AM
thanks for the suggestions customburbon, I think I have a solution that will still allow me to keep my sub control, I'll just run the two signal paths, separately, with 2f/1m rca y's at thhe amps. So in effect I could send both of the signals simultaneously, so to prevent that, I'll wire a toggle switch on the remotes of each source, cd player and EQ, and thus only the one I'm using will power up the amp and I will simply turn off the other source. that swithc you found would be the ideal thing, but without a sub signal, it's unfortunately worthless. you suggested the FOUr.1, any reason other than defeatable eq, is it a god unit. I was thinking about he clarion eqs744. 7 bands, 6 outputs at 7volts. any thoughts
Posted By: 97Avalonxls
Date Posted: February 08, 2005 at 9:08 AM
another thought, use this signal switcher for the front/rear signal and then use the splitter rca for the subs. since this unit will turn off one source for the other, I would n't have to worry about the possibility or having two signals or need any comlicated switches.
Posted By: Drewt
Date Posted: February 08, 2005 at 8:45 PM
Posted By: Javelin3o4
Date Posted: February 08, 2005 at 10:53 PM
Posted By: 97Avalonxls
Date Posted: February 09, 2005 at 9:55 AM
I don't think I can use either of the above products, there is no CeNet cable for the IPOD, so that wouldn't work, the splitter, and since there is no denison dock to CeNet cable, they won't work either. I am pretty sure the only way it'll work w/o an fm transponder is the EQ method with the source selector
Posted By: customsuburb
Date Posted: February 09, 2005 at 3:55 PM
The best choice would be to use the FOUR.1i, use that switcher to switch the outputs from the FOUR.1i and the Clarion processor. Then you could use rca splitters for the sub input on the amp. Make sure to use a relay to only allow one source to play at once (either the Clarion deck and processor or the FOUR.1i and the ipod). I'm not 100 percent sure this will work so if anyone has any other thoughts please chime in...
Posted By: Drewt
Date Posted: February 09, 2005 at 4:45 PM
Posted By: Javelin3o4
Date Posted: February 09, 2005 at 8:20 PM
nice link drew, you get a free bondage pack with that adapter? i think you posted the wrong link you freak.
Posted By: 97Avalonxls
Date Posted: February 10, 2005 at 8:42 AM
so the four.1 has six inputs and four outputs? the reason for the difficulty is I reall need to have in effect eight inputs. six off the processor, and two from the IPOD. by using the source switche, i can run Ipod/ front+ rear, and the processor/ front+rear to it and just run ipod sub and processor sub to a y adapter. then the switcher, which turns off one unit as the other powers up, prevents any issue at the sub amp. Is there any flaw in this logic?
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