I noticed something about new cars today
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Topic: I noticed something about new cars today
Posted By: pimpincavy
Subject: I noticed something about new cars today
Date Posted: February 10, 2005 at 10:23 PM
I was at the Buffalo Auto Show today, its nothing like the Detroit or New York shows, but they have a lot of cars. I noticed something when sitting in some of the cars. Installing a HU would be a pain in the a** in many of them. The Mazda RX-8 stuck out as being exceptionally bad. The factory units are getting fancier, and are often times one piece that includes all the heat/AC controls. The cheaper cars, and most Chrysler products seemed the easiest to install a HU in, while some of the luxury cars seemed damn near impossible. have any of you installers had any new cars that have been a pain to install in??
One of the Acuras had a system that sounded amazing for stock, sounded like it had a sub, but it didnt.
Some of the cars that really stuck out for me,and would top my wish list if i can 20-30 grand to spend included; the Scion TC, Chevy Cobalt SS, Dodge Neon SRT-4, Dodge Magnum RT (drool) and the Pontiac Grand Prix GTP (4.6 V8!!)
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Posted By: customsuburb
Date Posted: February 10, 2005 at 10:30 PM
I think the Acura TL has a Dolby Digital system in it...
Posted By: Drewt
Date Posted: February 10, 2005 at 10:33 PM
The TL probally has a sub in it! Car I want right now......Suburu Impreza WRX STi.....nuts....
Posted By: pimpincavy
Date Posted: February 10, 2005 at 11:08 PM
Yeah I forgot about the STI, that was there to, sick car!! The nicest car there BY FAR was a yellow Lamborghini Diablo, I wanted to sit in that one, but it wasnt gonna happen. They also had a Ford Cobra prototype, if ford puts that into production they would sell out before they even got to the dealer I bet.
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Posted By: 97Avalonxls
Date Posted: February 11, 2005 at 10:57 AM
my pops just got an Acura RL, I wouldn't even know where to begin to take apart the dash, the nav/cd/everything controls are all in this weird console that appears to be norrower than a din slot, I definately would not want to work in one of those
Posted By: Asmodeus
Date Posted: February 11, 2005 at 11:10 AM
Just put me in an Aston Martin V12 Vanquish S..... and leave me alone......All I want.... Well and some money to pay for the speeding tickets I would get.... -------------  Making the World A Louder Place
Posted By: newtone
Date Posted: February 11, 2005 at 11:39 AM
i know the acura suvs have Mark Levinson systems in them. range rover upped the ante with a 13 speaker 460watt Harmon Kardon system though. no need for aftermarket there!
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Posted By: DYohn
Date Posted: February 11, 2005 at 12:22 PM
Harmon Kardon = Mark Levinson = Infinity. All made by the same company and all use basically the same electronics. Main differences are cosmetics, speakers and in the EQ curves. The initial comment on this thread about manufacturers using increasingly customized electronics system and odd dash cutouts is a concern I've had for some time. It's really all about saving money, as many of the systems use large integrated circuits that can do much more than simply provide the music source. All sorts of control, navigation, information and security electronics are being integrated into single chassis, which makes it far more difficult to upgrade with non-OEM gear. It is a trend that is likely to get worse, IMO, as it is cheaper for the manufacturer to use one large integrated computerized system in a car than having to use multiple components and multiple computers with specialized functions. And oh by the way, a Vanquish is a very nice weekend driver but not very practical for daily use. I'll take the new Maserati Quatroporte, thanks. ------------- Support the12volt.com
Posted By: 97Avalonxls
Date Posted: February 11, 2005 at 12:28 PM
thank you fo mentioning the quatroporte, one of my favorites.. I also was really impressed with the Volvo Dynaudio three way setup, it sounded amazing
Posted By: heavilymedicate
Date Posted: February 11, 2005 at 1:22 PM
While I have yet to hear the Mark Levinson system in the Lexus, for the 1800 they want for it you could buy allot of aftermarket equipment. Then again when you paying 70000$ for a LX470...
https://caraudiomag.com/specialfeatures/0408cae_oem/ The automobile manufactures are not making it easy on the aftermarket industry, they want you to buy their inflated, overvalued package deals to get a wimpy 6" subwoofer and "200w" audio system for 1000$+, not buy a better system for the same money aftermarket.
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Posted By: xtreamcc
Date Posted: February 11, 2005 at 5:17 PM
Aftermarket stuff is the enemy of the car manufactures. Wether it be audio equipment, body kits, engine mods, or Jimbo Joes Auto Shop, if its not done or authorized by the manfacture, its costing them business which means they lose money, and we all know manufactures love nothing on earth BUT money.
As a mechanic and a part time installer I know for a fact that working on anything 2000+ is like pulling teeth out of a warthog. I mean, for gods sake, has anyone ever tried to change the thermostat in a 00+ dodge intrepid? U have to remove the damn left motor mount, alternator and lower radiator hose just to get to it! Gotta love it right? How about the new Mazdas or the new Chevys where u cant install an aftermarket head unit w/o relocating the factory unit because the brain of the car is in the damn radio... WTF is that all about!!!!!! LOL oh well guess its a give and take battel between do it urselfers and do it at the dealers for like ten times as much.
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