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Printed Date: May 15, 2024 at 1:52 PM


Topic: New subs

Posted By: 52brandon
Subject: New subs
Date Posted: February 17, 2005 at 11:45 AM

I have an Audiobahn A1500HCT in my '94 Eldorado powering a pair of power acoustic FUBR 12"  which are about 3 years old and am looking for and upgrade to a better pair of subs or possibly one 15" any suggestions would be appreciated



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Posted By: Alpine Guy
Date Posted: February 17, 2005 at 12:15 PM
Adire audio's Brahma, they are spoken very highly of and can be had for around $400

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Posted By: ken_steele
Date Posted: February 17, 2005 at 2:17 PM

Dont want to spend  quite as much ,get a warranty and be acoustically pleased? Try these Ive owned pioneer before as a layover sub but these are running full time in the ride this summer They sound way beyond expectation from a cooperate speaker manufact.  Sealed is recommended but definatley worht the 135 shipped for the pair. Heres the specs

Pioneer TS-W306DVC

  • Rec. Sealed Box Dims: 0.85 - 1.75 cu.ft.
  • Rec. Ported Box Dims: not recommended
  • Free Air Usage: not recommended
  • Sensitivity: 89 dB
  • Frequency Response: 18-500 Hz
  • Recommended RMS Power: 400W
  • Peak Power Handling: 1000W
  • Impedance: dual 4 ohms per Voice coil
  •  Pioneer TS-W306DVC new, improved cone design for a subwoofer powerhouse! Pioneer’s TS-W subs feature a patented composite IMPP (injection molded polypropylene) cone which allows the cone to be lighter and more rigid. Pioneer engineers have combined this with Aramid fiber, a material used in the manufacturing of bulletproof products! This combination produces a cone that’s incredibly strong, very light, and extremely rigid. Also new for 2005 is a dual mass magnet assembly for higher magnetic force—making a perfect recipe for high-performance subwoofer that can deliver powerful and distortion-free bass. The massive 83 oz. assembly significantly increases magnetic force, giving you a bigger than ever sound with second to none accuracy. The TS-W306DVC’s 3-layer radial surround plays a key role in its ground-pounding performance. Consisting of two layers of urethane with a layer of interwoven fiber between them, it’s no wonder why this sub is strong, stable, and has taken distortion out of the picture. Other features include dual aluminum voice coils, Conex spider, and spring-compression binding posts. The TS-W series is designed to reproduce incredibly accurate bass in small sealed enclosures.

    Features

    • Composite IMPP (Injection Molded Polypropylene) with Aramid Fiber Cone
    • Wide Roll, Triple-Layer Urethane Radial Surround
    • Conex Spider with Damper Ring
    • Dual Mass Magnet with Magnet Cover
    • Stamped Basket Design
    • 4-Layer Aluminum Dual Voice Coils
    • Polyester-Imide Resin Coated Voice Coil Wire
    • Spring-Compression Binding Posts
    • Molded Gasket
    • Mounting Depth: 6.2”
    • Information courtesy sound domain




    Posted By: Xplorer
    Date Posted: February 17, 2005 at 2:45 PM

    If the brahma is too much stick with 2 12's and get Adire's Shivas. Amazingly good sub for $125 shipped.



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    Posted By: 52brandon
    Date Posted: February 17, 2005 at 3:33 PM
    the brahma seems a bit too much. The RMS is more than my amps peak power. I am looking for something that matches up to my amp. Not something that is going to make me feel like I have to go buy a new amp




    Posted By: oonikfraleyoo
    Date Posted: February 17, 2005 at 11:32 PM
    You don't need to put anywhere near the max RMS on the Brahma to get great results.

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    Posted By: kfr01
    Date Posted: February 17, 2005 at 11:47 PM
    Obsessing about matching wattage is counterproductive, in my opinion. oonikfraleyoo is correct, ANY sub can sound great with less than its rated RMS number.

    The appropriate questions to ask are these:
    1) What are you looking for - better SQ? More SPL?
    2) Do you "push" your current speakers? Could you get by with less SPL?
    3) What kind of music do you listen to?
    4) Do you have any box volume restrictions or requirements?
    5) What do you feel lacks in your current setup?
    6) What is your budget?
    7) How much power do you have to throw at this thing? (specs of amplifier would help)
    8) Do you show off for your friends? - Pushing your subwoofers to its limits?

    We can actually start helping once we know at least some of these. Flat requests for a "better sub" will get you as many different responses as posts. The question you want to know the answer to is, "what is the best sub for me?" Don't be shy, make a nice long post. The more information the better.

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    Posted By: 52brandon
    Date Posted: February 18, 2005 at 12:39 PM

    amp specs:

    500w @ 4ohm

    1000w @ 2ohm

    2000w @ 1 ohm I am assuming these specs are RMS but it doesn't specify

    I listen to rap, I would like to get a nice balance between SPL and SQ, I want it to be loud but I don't want it to sound like garbage either. I don't really have any box restrictions as long as it'll fit in my trunk. I like to push my subs to to the limit, but only if if sounds good, I turn the bass down if it sounds distorted. I just feel like I could be getting more from my amp with more effivient subs, with price, I would like to try and keep it under $500.





    Posted By: 52brandon
    Date Posted: February 18, 2005 at 12:41 PM
    efficient subs*




    Posted By: oonikfraleyoo
    Date Posted: February 18, 2005 at 12:48 PM
    Dude get you a brahma. If that amp really does what it says you'll be fine.

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    Posted By: 52brandon
    Date Posted: February 18, 2005 at 12:58 PM
    ported, sealed, or bandpass?




    Posted By: 52brandon
    Date Posted: February 18, 2005 at 1:06 PM
    also, where would be a good place to get a 15' brahma for a good deal?




    Posted By: dwarren
    Date Posted: February 18, 2005 at 1:13 PM

    I would not recommend the banpass at all. What speaker is it? the Brahma?

    What do you want? loud bass, or smooth sq oriented bass?



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    Posted By: 52brandon
    Date Posted: February 18, 2005 at 5:20 PM
    loud, I guess




    Posted By: 52brandon
    Date Posted: February 18, 2005 at 5:21 PM
    yes, it's a brahma




    Posted By: dwarren
    Date Posted: February 18, 2005 at 6:39 PM

    I would recommend the ported box, and since that woofer is touted as a sq woofer it should still sound clean... and play loud.



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    Posted By: pimpincavy
    Date Posted: February 20, 2005 at 3:08 PM
    Go ported if you want to get a little louder. The brahma can be bought direct form adire (adireaudio.com) I dont think it can be gotten any cheaper on anywhere but maybe ebay. I would not recommend buying it from ebay though, just buy direct from Adire.

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    Posted By: wayland1985
    Date Posted: February 20, 2005 at 8:52 PM
    Brahma all the way...

    Besides, if you read their website, you'd see that their power ratings are different for different box sized, as with any subwoofer (1300 watts for a .62 cu.ft. box, vs only 500 watts for a 2.1cu.ft. box)


    But, I'd go with a sealed box. They get plenty loud, plus they offer far better SQ. I run a ported box now. Not only was it a pain to build (because of all calculations), but I wish I went sealed so my bass would be tighter.

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