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Printed Date: April 23, 2024 at 9:05 PM


Topic: Skip in Music

Posted By: hoaxs
Subject: Skip in Music
Date Posted: February 21, 2005 at 9:03 PM

When i play my music a highier level it skips.  I have A JVC Kamelon HU.   A Four channel Amp runing A 8 Sub and all four Of my componets.  I know i ghetto rig but i have the sub bridge on the first two channels, and the the front componets and the third channel, and the rears on the fourth channel.  At first it worked fine but over a while it started doing this.  Is there any way to fix this or do i just have to run a second amp.



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Posted By: wayland1985
Date Posted: February 21, 2005 at 9:30 PM
Is the skipping only for Cd's? Or the radio too?

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Posted By: oonikfraleyoo
Date Posted: February 21, 2005 at 10:55 PM
I had a Clarion in a 94 chevy 1500. The air conditionor vents were right over the CD player. After about a year, when I turned it up the CD would skip (4 JL W3s in the ext. cab). Anyway I pulled the HU one day after riding around for a while and found that condinsation had been building up on the HU. It was more or less ruined. Basically, I would say if it only does it on CDs then your HU is shot. If it does it with the radio...someone else will have to help you I have no idea.

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Posted By: wayland1985
Date Posted: February 21, 2005 at 11:12 PM
I think differently. If it's only doing it on cd's then maybe your head unit doesn't have good skip-protection (the bass or even bumps in the road could be a problem source)

If it's CD and Radio, then your HU is probably shot



But after re-reading your post....it could be your amplifier.... Talk about "ghetto"...

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Posted By: oonikfraleyoo
Date Posted: February 21, 2005 at 11:17 PM
I doubt it would be skip protection. He said it has worked fine for awhile. Besides I thought the skip protection was worked out in like 1992.

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Posted By: wayland1985
Date Posted: February 21, 2005 at 11:19 PM
"Besides I thought the skip protection was worked out in like 1992."

I know a few headunits that would beg to disagree... haha.

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Posted By: hoaxs
Date Posted: February 22, 2005 at 2:32 PM
Well it's not the skip protection though it still sucks.  I've only tried on cds so far im going to have to try with the radio but im sure it will. 

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Posted By: nickvr
Date Posted: February 22, 2005 at 4:02 PM

I have something similar since installing a RF 9210 HU week or two ago i.e. when playing loud (well ok that would be 80% of the time...) and guess I've experienced it a lower volume too. To this point I cannot confirm if this is worst when playing MP3s than playing audio cds but think its same difference. I also had a CD stuck  and needed to disconnect main power, reconnect and then the eject function would work (two different CDs and few days apart. Story first told me was to replace factory wires with decent wires to battery. Second time the CD got stuck, the new wires were installed. When in this 'mode', on the FM receiver would work for it doesn't even play from the 'stuck' cd. Any ideas what can be causing this except for fault HU?? I last experienced this in the very early days of FL HU i.e. bump in the road and CD skips but that was ages ago......



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Posted By: DYohn
Date Posted: February 22, 2005 at 4:25 PM

If you can make a radio broadcast "skip" I'll pay for your new head unit.  posted_image

Your amp (or lack thereof) will not cause the CD to skip.  Bad CD player or scratched CD causes skips.  Sounds like yur El Kameleon is worn out or your CDs are badly scratched up.  Or what you are hearing is not a "skip."



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Posted By: hoaxs
Date Posted: February 22, 2005 at 7:58 PM
Your right DYohn it's not really a skip it's more like a pause or just a short secound of silence.  And it's not the cd's because i just bought a new one out of the store and it did it with that.

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Posted By: DYohn
Date Posted: February 22, 2005 at 8:24 PM
Sounds like either your amp or your head unit is shutting down.  If it's been working up to now and suddenly started having trouble, could be age or heat or low impedence loads.  I'd take your car to a shop and get the system cheched (and expect them to tell you your "ghetto" amp setup is the problem, which it may be.)

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Posted By: haemphyst
Date Posted: February 22, 2005 at 8:48 PM
Does the pause in the music un-pause at the same place as it paused, (or possibly jump around a bit - even from track to track) just as if you hit the pause button, then hit it again to un-pause it? If it behaves like this, then it AIN'T gonna happen on your radio. It's the CD player. Go to Radio Shack, spend 4 bux on a CD lens cleaner, and let us know if that fixes it... I bet it does, at least for a little while.

BTW, I'll pay for HALF of that head unit if you can make radio "skip".

BTW, why are you running fronts off one channel and rears off another channel? Doesn't it make more sense to run the rights off one channel and the lefts off the other channel? That's the only ghetto part to me...

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Posted By: wayland1985
Date Posted: February 22, 2005 at 10:36 PM
Hey, if all those "make your radio skip" jokes were directed towards me.....  I didn't mean actually having a skip in the radio signal....... I meant pause.....  Give me a break guys!

I'd also look over every fuse in your sound system.....  EVERY FUSE...  A loose ANL fuse in my distribution block gave me similar problems with my setup...


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Posted By: hoaxs
Date Posted: February 23, 2005 at 2:25 PM
Thanks guys but the thing is it pauses only when theres a low bass note.  And i notice in the mourning it doesn't skip either.  And it's real cold in the mourning.

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Posted By: DYohn
Date Posted: February 23, 2005 at 2:40 PM
You should have said that before.  Your amp is cutting out most likely due to low impedence.

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Posted By: haemphyst
Date Posted: February 23, 2005 at 3:45 PM
haemphyst wrote:

Does the pause in the music un-pause at the same place as it paused, (or possibly jump around a bit - even from track to track) just as if you hit the pause button, then hit it again to un-pause it? If it behaves like this, then it AIN'T gonna happen on your radio. It's the CD player. Go to Radio Shack, spend 4 bux on a CD lens cleaner, and let us know if that fixes it... I bet it does, at least for a little while.


Does it pause as though you hit the pause button, and then hit it again to un-pause the music, picking up again EXACTLY where you paused it in the first place? I am telling you, if this is the case, then you need a CD lens cleaner.

It is POSSIBLE that it is a current condition, or even a low impedance condition, but if you don't read the posts, with all of the associated questions and information, you are wasting time - yours AND ours - posting questions here.

I say this is very likely your situation, because as electronics get older, their values will start to "drift" and they become less stable, thermally speaking. Your telling me that the issue ONLY happens when the unit is cold, indicates to me the sled or the lens could be out of alignment, or the error corrcetion circuitry is drifting out of "alignment" and sometimes a lens cleaning can help the issue.

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Posted By: oonikfraleyoo
Date Posted: February 23, 2005 at 7:24 PM
He actually said it doesn't skip when cold.

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Posted By: haemphyst
Date Posted: February 23, 2005 at 7:57 PM
I know that... the errors START when the devices warm up... This is when MOST errors WILL start. Very few electronic errors occur when the devices are cold. Have you ever seen component HEATER spray? How about component COOLER spray? Yes, 'cause most often, the errors will STOP if you cool the component.

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Posted By: hoaxs
Date Posted: February 23, 2005 at 11:48 PM

Well the sub is running at two ohms and the componets are running at 4  And i'll will try the cd lense cleaner.  And im sorry for wasting your time but it is aprecated.

The only reason it's so ghetto riged is becauses im 17, with a car note, insurance bill, computer bill, gas money, cell phone bill and i give my parents money.  So it's get's hard at times.



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Posted By: DYohn
Date Posted: February 24, 2005 at 8:20 AM

hoaxs] wrote:

ell the sub is running at two ohms and the componets are running at 4  And i'll will try the cd lense cleaner. 

I'll bet that's your problem.  You said the sub is connected across two channels bridged as a tri-way setup on your amp.  (I assume you are using a passive crossover?)  This requires at least a 4-ohm load.  Rewire the sub for 4-ohms and it may get better.  Otherwise you are setup to fry your amp.



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Posted By: oonikfraleyoo
Date Posted: February 24, 2005 at 9:50 AM
haemphyst - "Your telling me that the issue ONLY happens when the unit is cold,"

I was just pointing out what you said. I'm sure it was just a typo no need to get all touchy.

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Posted By: haemphyst
Date Posted: February 24, 2005 at 10:33 AM
You're right... My bad. Bad day, and sometimes it shows up after work.

Sorry about that, and I'll try to be a little calmer in the future...

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Posted By: oonikfraleyoo
Date Posted: February 24, 2005 at 10:52 AM
It's cool man.

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Posted By: aaronU
Date Posted: February 24, 2005 at 1:34 PM
I had the same problem in my old car. The bass would hit and the amp would shut off for a second or two. I had a bad battery and the voltage was going too low for the amp to run on. I ended up getting a new car (with a new battery) and the amp worked fine.

Just an idea.




Posted By: hoaxs
Date Posted: February 25, 2005 at 12:41 AM
naw my cars new, and i got to skip on the radio but at a higher volume.  I'm going to run the sub 2 ohms then.

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