2001 cavalier stereo Install
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Printed Date: April 26, 2024 at 7:35 PM
Topic: 2001 cavalier stereo Install
Posted By: e40water
Subject: 2001 cavalier stereo Install
Date Posted: February 22, 2005 at 3:24 PM
I just bought 2001 cavalier, I got the stock am/fm radio in I want to add a new aftermarket cd player, Ive installed a alot of cd players in older cars without air bags, I am just wondering what should I keep in mind while installing this aftermarket cd player, I know I need the mounting hardware kit, for the and I am planning on buying the wiring harness for the after market deck, I dont like to cut the wires makes more of a mess in my opinion. Anyone with any tips? Thanks in advance. :) ------------- e4
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Posted By: forbidden
Date Posted: February 22, 2005 at 4:37 PM
Take your time, the entire top dash must be removed before you can get at the center bezel area around the cd player. DO NOT try and force the bezel around the cd player, you will break it. My guide list this vehicle as in need of the head unit relocation kit as the vehicle is equipped with the Class II databus system. Do not get scared by this, it is simple. Buy the proper harness, www.scosche.com model#GM06. This harness plugs into the factory molex up front and then is an extension lead molex to move the factory radio to the rear of the vehicle. The factory head unit is required to maintain the integrity of the Class II databus circuit. Place the radio on the side of the car in the rear quarter panel on the opposite side of the fuel filler as that side has more room. It will fit behind the factory trunkliner with a small bulge. It should be held into place with some backstrap. Mount the suppled speaker that comes with the GM06 somewhere upfront, add the GM1583 kit and MDA1 antenna adaptor and you are pretty much good to go. If you want the new radio to go on and off with the ignition and not the door, the red wire on the aftermarket cd player must be wired to the pink wire in the main ignition harness where it comes down the steering column. ------------- Top Secret, I can tell you but then my wife will kill me.
Posted By: sroth140
Date Posted: February 23, 2005 at 12:49 AM
https://jbody.org search there for instructions. ------------- MECP certified installer
Posted By: e40water
Date Posted: February 23, 2005 at 12:11 PM
So all I need model#GM06 for the wiring harness, And GM1583 kit and MDA1 antenna adaptor, Then the mounting hardware panel for the aftermarket stereo to attach too, Well guess that sums up my questions. Thanks guys :). ------------- e4
Posted By: e40water
Date Posted: March 09, 2005 at 3:06 PM
Ouch I got the relocation wiring harness Damn its quite expensive. Ok I am planning to install my stereo this weekend, So as you were saying that old stock stereo has to be mounted in the rear area oppsite side of the gas filler?. I am pretty sure I will have no troubles doing this set up. I just want to make sure I got all the tips in place. ------------- e4
Posted By: forbidden
Date Posted: March 09, 2005 at 3:21 PM
It is pretty straightforward, just take your time. There are screws at either end of the dash hidden behind pop off side panels that must be removed first. Next a screw in the top center vent to pop off this panel. Under it wil be two more. Under the dash on the drivers side in the instrument cluster are two more. In the glove box IIRC there are about 4 and two bolts way up and in there. These all must be removed first. Take the dash out of the car. Now you can see the balance of the screws that are holding the radio bezel into place.
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Top Secret, I can tell you but then my wife will kill me.
Posted By: kgerry
Date Posted: March 09, 2005 at 4:19 PM
you dont need to go thru the hassle of relocating a radio... that was the old school way before they had a proper interface.... use the Metra GMRC-01 and off you go......
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Kevin Gerry
Certified Electronics Technician
MECP First Class Installer
Owner/Installer
Classic Car Audio
since 1979
Posted By: e40water
Date Posted: March 10, 2005 at 3:58 AM
Well...... I need to know if I am needing this BHA2004T GM w/ class 2 databus system 2000-2003 24pin Relocation Harness, Cause Once I open the bag I am unable to return it back to the store, I am aware that the front dash and where the stock stereo bezel has to be unscrewed, I am just a little confused on the relocation . The stock stereo has to be used? the New wiring harness replaces the old one? I just need info reloaction step? Any detailed steps would be great.?
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Posted By: e40water
Date Posted: March 10, 2005 at 4:05 AM
2000+ factory radio replacement info(if you have a pre-2000 car.. this info doesn't apply to you)
If you have a 2000+ Cavalier or Sunfire, then your factory head unit/radio/cd player/stereo/whatever is a CLASS 2 unit. Class 2 radios are wired differently than anything most stereo installers have dealt with.. and there's a LOT of misinformation out there about them.
If you replace the factory radio from the car with an aftermarket unit.. and you do not use a relocation harness or door chime module.. you will lose your factory door chimes and OnStar (if you even have it). That's it!
Removing the factory deck from the vehicle will NOT affect:
- Airbags
- Keyless Entry
- Daytime Running Lights (DRLs)
- Cruise Control
- Oil change light (J-cars don't even have one!)
If anyone tells you otherwise.. THEY ARE MISINFORMED!
If you want to keep your factory door chimes and/or OnStar... you need to either relocate the factory deck using a T-harness or replace the factory deck with an aftermarket chime module for the chimes and OnStar speaker.
If you don't care about the loss of the factory chimes.. you can buy a cheap aftermarket harness and hook up an aftermarket deck. You don't have to spend $100 or more on a T-harness to relocate the factory deck.
(Of course.. you'll also need a deck mounting kit.. and a GM antenna adapter..)
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This is the info I dug up off a website site. I guess I am not needing this relocate T harness? ------------- e4
Posted By: spineshank
Date Posted: March 10, 2005 at 5:13 PM
Im trying to do the same thing. Install an aftermarket head unit into my 2001 Z24. Problem is i cnat find the ignition wire. I have it down to 2 wires. One is black (yes i know the ground wire is black but there are 2 black wires and the other one is the ground wire). The other is grey. Apparently the previous owner had one in as well because he taped the harness colors to the wires so you could match em up. Problem is that whatever he taped the red wire to fell off the wire. I did order a Haynes book as well. Also i do not have a pink wire like earlier stated.
Posted By: forbidden
Date Posted: March 10, 2005 at 5:25 PM
Again, the vehicle has a class II databus system. This means that there is a wire that is controlled by the door. If you are not going to do it right and use the T-harness or expensive non retention harness, then you must run a new ignition wire to the main ignition harness where the pink wire will be located.
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Top Secret, I can tell you but then my wife will kill me.
Posted By: spineshank
Date Posted: March 10, 2005 at 5:53 PM
So i cant hook it up to the door wire?
Posted By: kgerry
Date Posted: March 11, 2005 at 10:01 AM
the expensive (expensive being a relative term) non-retention harness (GMRC-01) supplies you with an acc circuit which also operates as a RAP circuit (meaning your aftermarket radio stays on till you open the door) as well as the chime speaker module..... if you put a dollar value on the time it takes to relocate the factory radio to the trunk the non-retention is actually a cheaper alternate while giving you more value for your money...... we dont even stock the old T harness any more....... and no, you cant hook it up to the door circuit, you have to go to the fusebox or the ign wiring harness and grab acc there..... (if not doing it properly) ------------- Kevin Gerry
Certified Electronics Technician
MECP First Class Installer
Owner/Installer
Classic Car Audio
since 1979
Posted By: spineshank
Date Posted: March 11, 2005 at 4:57 PM
I just went and bought the GMRC harness since it was only 60 at Circuit City and it did the trick just fine. Thanks for the help guys.
Posted By: spineshank
Date Posted: March 11, 2005 at 5:48 PM
Though i noticed that when i open the door the radio doesnt turn off. I noticed this with the factory radio too, it would work sometimes and not working some others. Any fix for this??
Posted By: Bigfrank203
Date Posted: March 11, 2005 at 7:56 PM
I have had my 01 cavalier that I hooked up using the stuff from cructhfield.com. All I did was buy the basic wiring harness for 5.00 and it came with all the instructions and a wire that was my 12v to the cd player. I had to run the red wire to my fusebox and attach it to a fuse (which it tells me which one I think it was the wipers). Simple. Once I did all that I no longer had a door chime and the radio doesnt stay on when I turn off the car, but hey the whole thing works no problems at all. I thought the chime was annoying anyway.
Posted By: audifive
Date Posted: March 11, 2005 at 8:19 PM
you cant use the red wire from the harness you bought. you have to splice into another accessory wire preferably one at the ignition, in order for the radio to turn off when you turn off the car. otherwise it will turn on and off when it wants too. and i agree with whomever said it, that the relocation harness is the best way to go.
Posted By: Bigfrank203
Date Posted: March 11, 2005 at 9:07 PM
The red wire was the one I ran to the fuse box and hooked it to the wiper fuse.
Posted By: e40water
Date Posted: March 12, 2005 at 2:14 AM
Well sure the relocation harness sounds to be a good route to go, I dont see the purpose spending $80-$90 for a wiring harness that makes a after market deck work with stock. My opinion, GM just made a money maker move for people who want a better sounding stereo upgrade. I would rather go the
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Posted By: kgerry
Date Posted: March 12, 2005 at 10:12 AM
i replace about 20 cavalier drivers door pin switches a month here... it's a little push in plastic switch and thats why your radio isnt shutting off.... they are only about 6 bucks, pick one up and replace it...... part # 22600228 then the RAP feature will work, like it should have with your OEM unit..... ------------- Kevin Gerry
Certified Electronics Technician
MECP First Class Installer
Owner/Installer
Classic Car Audio
since 1979
Posted By: spineshank
Date Posted: March 12, 2005 at 11:48 AM
Alright thanks, i did find the switch i believe. Its a little button type thing thats at the bottom of the car on the corner kinda? It doesnt appear to stick or anything.
Posted By: kgerry
Date Posted: March 12, 2005 at 1:21 PM
its on the inner front part of the door jam....they go open and quit working..... have the radio playing then cycle off ign and open the door, if they radio continues to play then push the switch in hard a few times or pull it outwards with your fingers to make a good connection... if the radio shuts off when you do this the switch is pooched and needs to be replaced.....
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Kevin Gerry
Certified Electronics Technician
MECP First Class Installer
Owner/Installer
Classic Car Audio
since 1979
Posted By: spineshank
Date Posted: March 12, 2005 at 2:10 PM
Will this affect the interior light as well? Since i noticed that is sparactic too.
Posted By: e40water
Date Posted: March 12, 2005 at 5:07 PM
Well I just finished my install of my after market stereo, It went perfect, No problems with the $20 wiring harness, Sound is awsome. I got a few tips with wiring to share I ran the Red acc. wire to the fuse panel in the wiper motor fuse, Now the stereo turns off with the key off. Otherwise installing the after market one in replace of stock, It went really easy. I just like to thank all you guys for youre help. Thanks again :) ------------- e4
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