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Subwoofers fades on low frequencies

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Printed Date: May 15, 2024 at 8:45 PM


Topic: Subwoofers fades on low frequencies

Posted By: N34L
Subject: Subwoofers fades on low frequencies
Date Posted: March 22, 2005 at 7:40 AM

I've got 2 x 12" Kenwood Typhoons installed in a sealed enclosure and they're hooked up on to a 2000 Watt monoblock Amp and gain is set about 30% . Whenever I play mp3s/songs with exstremely low bass tones/frequencies (like rap/hip hop type) it fades out. It almost makes like a funny rumbling noise. Could it be that there's not anough ampage to the subs or could it be a setting on the crossover ?

Thanks



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Posted By: ss-installer
Date Posted: March 22, 2005 at 8:18 AM

what kind of HU are you running?



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Posted By: mrmsudawgs
Date Posted: March 22, 2005 at 8:29 AM
I sometimes here a low rumbling noise as well but my bass is not fading out. I have no idea what is causing it. I've checked all the wiring and it all seemed fine. My noise is random but it is very low frequency. It can occur with the CD on "Pause" with the engine on or off. It stops as suddenly as it starts. Wierd!

I am running an Alipine CDA-9831 head unit.

Mike




Posted By: N34L
Date Posted: March 22, 2005 at 8:33 AM
ss-installer wrote:

what kind of HU are you running?


I have the JVC KD-LHX501 Touch/Voice Mp3/WMA Head Unit.



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Posted By: ss-installer
Date Posted: March 22, 2005 at 8:34 AM
check your ground and make sure it has a good connection (scrape the hell out of the paint). make sure your RCAs are tight .

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Posted By: haemphyst
Date Posted: March 22, 2005 at 8:47 AM
It is most likely the MP3... MP3's TRASH low and high frequencies, and, well, they are not very nice to mids, either. Another thing could be your enclosure. If the Q of the system is too low or too high, the response gets really nasty - either peaky or too fast a roll-off. Does your amp have a subsonic filter (either fixed or adjustable) and is it on? If it is on, turn it off if possible. My first thought was the MP3, though...

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Posted By: N34L
Date Posted: March 22, 2005 at 8:50 AM
Nope it also happens with normal audio CDs... I'll play around with the settings and so on and I'll have a look for that subsonic filter. I'll try and re-adjust the ground, but seems fine. Thanks

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Posted By: c3d
Date Posted: March 22, 2005 at 9:32 AM
Check the range of your subwoofers, its usually 20hz-250/300hz. If the songs are going lower than that, the subs have nothing to play. The seems to be enough amperage, also check the frequency output on your amp as well, make sure its down low. and check to see if ur amp has a built in crossover, and check its setting as well.

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Posted By: c3d
Date Posted: March 22, 2005 at 9:38 AM
Oh yeah, make sure its set to LPF. And check your head units built in crossover settings. set to to a preset bass level.

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Posted By: N34L
Date Posted: March 23, 2005 at 12:17 AM
I'm confirming that there is a built in crossover... I've got both LPF and HPF. The LPF is set to full and the HPF is set to low. Then there's a couple of other settings, but I'm not sure about them. I'll have a look later and tell you what they are. The ground is perfectly grounded so I reckon it is a setting on the crossover ? I've got a seperate 2/3 way crossover aswell between my 2000 Watt monoblock for my subs and my 700 Watt Calibra wich feeds my 6 x 9" Kenwoods.

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Posted By: kfr01
Date Posted: March 23, 2005 at 1:06 AM
You keep saying you have a 2000w monoblock. Which amplifier is it? How do you have the subs wired?


Does this happen at low volume levels?

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Posted By: N34L
Date Posted: March 23, 2005 at 3:48 AM
It is a Starsound SSA-4150 2000 Watt x 4 Channel.

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Posted By: ss-installer
Date Posted: March 23, 2005 at 7:40 AM
did you say the low freq is set all the way up? 250htz? try all the way down between 50-80.

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Posted By: kfr01
Date Posted: March 23, 2005 at 11:24 AM
I'll ask again. Does this happen at low volumes?

Also, how many watts _RMS_ is the amplifier per channel? How do you have it wired? Stop quoting max wattage - it means nothing.

My guess is that your amplifier is clipping and you're getting some funky mechanical noise from your woofers instead of bass as it reaches xlim rather than the low notes.

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