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Replace W7 surround?

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Printed Date: April 24, 2024 at 2:54 PM


Topic: Replace W7 surround?

Posted By: oonikfraleyoo
Subject: Replace W7 surround?
Date Posted: March 24, 2005 at 7:41 PM

I have access to a W7 that someone attempted to steal. While removing it from the box they ripped a nasty hole the surround. The guy that owns it is willing to dump it for $100. Anyone know how much it would cost me to get this thing reconed? Would I have to send it directly to JL, or do they have service centers? I really wouldn't mind havin this one to go with the one I already have, but if it's gonna cost an arm and leg to fix it I might as well not.

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Posted By: tcss
Date Posted: March 24, 2005 at 7:49 PM
Hey Nik, yes you must send the woofer to JL. Depending on the size Jl's retail for the repair is between $180 and $470. Subtract from that how much you can haggle your JL dealer to find out if it's worth it or not. One catch you will need the receipt or JL won't touch it. We're just ready to buy and build a new shop show car. What kind of car should I get? Bob




Posted By: oonikfraleyoo
Date Posted: March 24, 2005 at 8:04 PM
Are you saying that JL won't fix it at all without a receipt? I've heard that before but it makes no since to me. What do they care if it was bought from a authorized dealer if I am gonna pay them for the repairs? Really doesn't matter in this case cause he bought it from the local shop and they can print one if he doesn't have it. But it just makes no since.

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Posted By: oonikfraleyoo
Date Posted: March 24, 2005 at 8:06 PM
Oh yeah, it's a 12". You don't happen to know the price do you?

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Posted By: tcss
Date Posted: March 24, 2005 at 8:14 PM
Nik, It's prove it wasn't ripped off. Retail on the 12" is $350.




Posted By: Poormanq45
Date Posted: March 24, 2005 at 8:27 PM
Um, Why don't you just put a new surround on it yourself?

There shouldn't be a need to get it reconed if the cone itself wasn't ripped.



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Posted By: MAXST
Date Posted: March 24, 2005 at 10:41 PM
Sorry but where do you get a retail price of a 12" W7 to be $350 tcss?

on ebay the average cost of a 12" w7 is ~$500.

Not if thats the cost of the damaged W7, then i could understand the $350 cost...but not retail.

Why not get a XXX 12" or altante-think thats it. Near if not the same cost. Also nearly if not better than the W7...IMO.

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Posted By: oonikfraleyoo
Date Posted: March 25, 2005 at 9:12 AM
Maxst - $350 is not the retail of the speaker, READ the thread manposted_image

I'm not gonna get a XXX (right now) because I already have a W7 and this other one is quite cheap.

Poormanq45 - How difficult would that be? Where would I get the surround?


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Posted By: customsound79
Date Posted: March 25, 2005 at 10:39 AM
From my experience,  no car audio manufacturer will allow third party recones. They do this because they don't want anyone to get a bad impression of their products due to a sloppy job. I tried and tried to get a recone kit for a pair of L7's and they woundn't budge even though I've been reconing speakers for years. Your best bet is to buy a different sub and forgo the huge hassle and it would probably cost the same if not less. OR, if you are really good with a razor blade, buy a blown one and rob the surround from it.

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Posted By: customsuburb
Date Posted: March 25, 2005 at 10:48 AM
I think it's pretty much impossible to only replace the surround on the W7s. You would probobly have to recone it completely. I'd call JL and see what they want to recone it.

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Posted By: Poormanq45
Date Posted: March 25, 2005 at 11:38 AM
customsuburb wrote:

I think it's pretty much impossible to only replace the surround on the W7s. You would probobly have to recone it completely. I'd call JL and see what they want to recone it.


oonikfraleyoo wrote:

Poormanq45 - How difficult would that be? Where would I get the surround?


You will have to find/buy a high roll surround specifically for the W7 or else you will introduce an element of decreased complience in the suspension. Which would limit the SPL.

I suggest the you call JL tech support, or check out their website. Usually manufacture's will supply you with what you need.

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Posted By: oonikfraleyoo
Date Posted: March 25, 2005 at 1:16 PM
See thats what I thought. I really don't see JL coming off of surround when they can refuse to sell them and make more money buy either reconing themselves or replacing the speaker. If it's gonna be $100 for the speaker and $350 for a surround, I don't see any point in buying that one. I'll just chill with the one I have now, until I get around to getting something that suits my needs better.

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Posted By: customsuburb
Date Posted: March 25, 2005 at 1:39 PM
It probobly wouldn't be 350 just for a surround...that would be a complete recone probobly. It's a pretty good deal if you they give you can get a recone for $350....they sell 12" W7s around here for like $750 new.

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Posted By: Poormanq45
Date Posted: March 26, 2005 at 6:44 PM
Hmm, It sounds like JL is trying to screw it's customers.

I have had personal experience with a few companies about replacing surrounds, and they didn't give me any trouble about it.

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Posted By: oonikfraleyoo
Date Posted: March 27, 2005 at 12:58 AM
I can get 'em brand new for $500 so I don't just don't see the point in fixing one for $450. Besides I don't think I'm gonna stay with JL. Its a wonderful speaker but one of em aint gonna do what I want (make me sick to my stomach) and I can achieve that for less $ with other brands.

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