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What I gather is Stroker poor sound quality and w7 better sound quality. I owned a 10 W7 with a 500.1 and was totally blown away. Great amp! I'm looking for the deep deep bass that will shake stuff and not just be loud. Also I plan on getting just one. And what size should I get for maximum out put?

Since I've had the W7 Already I'm kind of looking for an excuse to get a Stroker. Or someone to blame for getting a stroker lol

thx guys

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Well, if you are looking to shake stuff, a Stroker will do that, but in terms of sound quality, They sound half descent when in the proper enclosure, but not well enough for my personal liking. In a few months, Cerwin-Vega is introducing the Stroker Pro, IMO, alot better sub. As we have had the privilage to aquire one at CES this year, before they are actually out on the market. Very impressive improvement, SQ is phenominally greater than the original Stroker. The drawback on that is the Stroker Pro has a retail sticker of $1700, I believe, or in the general area.

While the W7 is supposed to be equivalent with the original Stroker, I have heard only one setup to base my opinion on, though it was same vehicle same amplifier, so that stands for comparing power differences, acoustic property differences, etc. While I was not impressed with the W7 as all the hype that went with the sub, I found that the Stroker outperformed the W7, spl wise. SQ wise, there was no comparison, the W7 blew the Stroker out of the water.

So in the end, it's what you want and not others opinions. I hope I have given an informative opinion based on my personal accounts, while being a Cerwin-Vega dealer, I am giving an opinion based on a neutral point of view, as I don't prefer either sub over the other.

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I wasn't happy with the sound quality of the W7 anyway. The higher frequencies were nonexistant while the lows were crazy loud. If the Stroker can give me more on the low end I guess I'll go for it.

Thanks Chad

Are do the new strokers look like to old ones?

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ah...it's a subwoofer....the high frequencies are not supposed to be there. That's what your door speakers are for.....

-Drew

If you weren't happy with the SQ of the W7, then good luck finding a speaker that you are happy with.

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Chad7n7 wrote:

While the W7 is supposed to be equivalent with the original Stroker, I have heard only one setup to base my opinion on, though it was same vehicle same amplifier, so that stands for comparing power differences, acoustic property differences, etc. While I was not impressed with the W7 as all the hype that went with the sub, I found that the Stroker outperformed the W7, spl wise. SQ wise, there was no comparison, the W7 blew the Stroker out of the water.
So in the end, it's what you want and not others opinions. I hope I have given an informative opinion based on my personal accounts, while being a Cerwin-Vega dealer, I am giving an opinion based on a neutral point of view, as I don't prefer either sub over the other.

Alright, from a neutral point of vew..that was hilarious. The Stroker and W7 are two totally DIFFERENT subs. The Stroker is a low excursion SPL sub while the W7 is a high excursion SQ sub. IF the W7's SQ did not impress you, then perhaps you didnt have it in the proper enclosure?

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I dont get why that was so funny to you. He said he was being nutreal, he said that in spl the stroker was a fairly clear winner, which I agree with, and he said that for sq the W7 was a winner, which I also agree with. Whether its a high excursion sub or not really has nothing to do with this. Also it wasnt his choice to compare these subs, he just answered the question. So like I said I dont see whats funny, or mabye I just missed the joke completly.

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"While the W7 is supposed to be equivalent with the original Stroker"

That was funny.

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I guess it was because I built the recommended ported box. But yeah I think Chad answered my question pretty well. So for SPL Stroker all the way huh?

Ok I hope you guys are still reading this thread but I just called one of my good friends and he can hook me up with the Kicker L7 or L5's for like 50 bucks.... I'm willing to spend the money for a stroker or a w7. but with that money I'll be able to buy a nation of L7's.

Input plz!

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L7's are good if you want crazy loud bass and don't give a rip about SQ. If that's the case (which it is fine if it is, just depends on taste), then go for (well, look at) the L7's. I'd try to listen to both if you can.

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audiobass10 wrote:

Chad7n7 wrote:

While the W7 is supposed to be equivalent with the original Stroker, I have heard only one setup to base my opinion on, though it was same vehicle same amplifier, so that stands for comparing power differences, acoustic property differences, etc. While I was not impressed with the W7 as all the hype that went with the sub, I found that the Stroker outperformed the W7, spl wise. SQ wise, there was no comparison, the W7 blew the Stroker out of the water.
So in the end, it's what you want and not others opinions. I hope I have given an informative opinion based on my personal accounts, while being a Cerwin-Vega dealer, I am giving an opinion based on a neutral point of view, as I don't prefer either sub over the other.

Alright, from a neutral point of vew..that was hilarious. The Stroker and W7 are two totally DIFFERENT subs. The Stroker is a low excursion SPL sub while the W7 is a high excursion SQ sub. IF the W7's SQ did not impress you, then perhaps you didnt have it in the proper enclosure?

What's funny is someone trying to discredit an opinion without doing research and looking from one side of the fence, and with no solid grounds.

Low excursion???? I don't think so. And just to give you some info on the Stroker, as you clearly have the wrong information.

Cerwin Vega Stroker

So my advise is the next time you try to discredit someone on a post, please get your research straight.

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And to answer your earlier question about the Stroker Pro, here is the info on it 5150azn,

Cerwin Vega Stroker Pro

As to availability, I am not sure of any specific dates, all I know is later on this year.

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Chad7n7 wrote:

[QUOTE=audiobass10][QUOTE=Chad7n7]
Low excursion???? I don't think so. And just to give you some info on the Stroker, as you clearly have the wrong information.
Cerwin Vega Stroker
So my advise is the next time you try to discredit someone on a post, please get your research straight.

Low Excursion? Um, yea.. The Strokes have rougly 11mm of xmax if i'm not mistaken. You can look it up if you'd like. It's obvious you're terribley misinformed which is why I "discredited" your post. It was never designed to be anything comparable to the W7.

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um....no, if you would take the time to read the information that I have provided YOU with, you will clearly see that you WERE mistaken, CV Stroker 15 xmax is 25mm, while the 13w7 is 32mm.Both considered high excursion subs.

The CV Strokers have been out for several years now, where as the W7 have been out for what....2-3 years. In no way did I suggest that the Strokers were designed to be comparible to the W7, as that would be impossible since they have been out longer. And comparison basis came from the fact that both subs are high excursion subs, while JL renouns the W7 a SQL sub, and Cerwin Vega marketss as purely a SPL sub.

Misinformed....no. This will be the last post I make in regards to this thread, as I have provided sufficient information to back up what I have stated in previous posts with manufacturers specification sheets, you have literally taken what I have said and disected and twisted it in an attempt to back out of the hole you have dug trying to discredit my OPINION. As it is non sense to beat on a dead horse.

And in the end, what is HILARIOUS is the IGNORANCE that has been presented in this thread that started off as a simple comparison of two COMPARIBLE subs, while being a Cerwin Vega dealer, I tried to reply from a neutral point of view, as trying not to push a product, simply trying to help the original poster have an idea of the DIFFERENCES of the two.

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"While the W7 is supposed to be equivalent with the original Stroker"

"In no way did I suggest that the Strokers were designed to be comparible to the W7"

Nuff said. This wasn't really an argument until someone was offended that I disagreed.

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Still, i think the STROKER sounds relatively good for the SPL it puts out. Sure it don't beat the W7 in SQ, but it can get loud and still sound great. It can get a lot louder though than the W7. I would go Stroker because they are more reliable in my opinion, and they have been out on the market longer and have developed a good reputation.

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Let's get to the point here though. Strokers are not comparable to W7's in any way other than they both can get loud in different situations. W7's will kill the stroke down low for sure, however the Stokers do high tunes very well. Sorry to say that they dont move 25 mm however. Talk to someone who's actually used them in installs..they move around 11mm before making noise, which is NOT xmax. Just because they're listed at 25 mm doesnt mean it happens. If you want a great SQ sub that gets real low, go with the W7. If you want a great SPL sub, go with the Stroker. Hope my post didnt hurt anyones feelings heh....

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audiobass10 wrote:

"While the W7 is supposed to be equivalent with the original Stroker"
"In no way did I suggest that the Strokers were designed to be comparible to the W7"
Nuff said. This wasn't really an argument until someone was offended that I disagreed.

In regards to your pissing match with Chad7n7, you lose. YOU were the one who said the Stroker was made to be comparable to the W7, not him (Chad7n7 actually has it the other way around. Although I don't totally agree with his statement, I won't argue it at this time). Chad7n7 correctly states that the Stroker has been around quite a bit longer than the W7, therefore it could not be made to be comparable to the W7 based on this point of reference.

Something that hasn't really been touched on yet is the cost difference. Everyone complains that the W7 costs so much compared to other subs of equal/"greater" quality. The Strokers, unless they have come way down in price, will cost even more than the W7's, almost 2 times more in fact. So I would take that into consideration as well when deciding which sub the original poster goes with...

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Got the priviledge of finally hearing some good quality JL products to see this hype of the beast company... I heard the W7 12", and wow... I was VERY impressed with the quality I heard in it. Infact, unless I happen to get access to a lot of other equipment, it is probably gonna be looking towards a JL Audio system. Right now mine bangs harder than hell, need another car that doesn't hit as hard but hits much more beautifully, and I'd definitely want that.

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Paridigm, when did I ever say they were comparable? Find it in my post and paste it...I would never say that.

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I don't get it I always thought the strokers were supposed to go lower. It sucks cause like I said I had a 10W7 with the 500.1 and payed like $500 or 600 bucks for both. Then pretty much gave them away. And now I hear they're the best you can get jeesh!

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audiobass10 wrote:

Chad7n7 wrote:

[QUOTE=audiobass10][QUOTE=Chad7n7]
Low excursion???? I don't think so. And just to give you some info on the Stroker, as you clearly have the wrong information.
Cerwin Vega Stroker
So my advise is the next time you try to discredit someone on a post, please get your research straight.

Low Excursion? Um, yea.. The Strokes have rougly 11mm of xmax if i'm not mistaken. You can look it up if you'd like. It's obvious you're terribley misinformed which is why I "discredited" your post. It was never designed to be anything comparable to the W7.

That's what you said. And Chad7n7 never said anything about the Stroker being comparable to the W7. Rather, he phrased it the other way around. So I misread what you posted, as did you with what Chad7n7 said. Guess we're both wrong, eh? posted_image

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Well, I did say something wrong. What I should have said was the W7 was never designed to be comparible to the Stroker, since the Stroker came out first. The only wrong thing i saw in his post which i DID argue was that the was that the W7 was supposed to be equivalent to the original stroker, which it wasn't. Wish there was a JL rep on this board..that would clear things up a bit.

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audiobass10 wrote:

Well, I did say something wrong. What I should have said was the W7 was never designed to be comparible to the Stroker, since the Stroker came out first. The only wrong thing i saw in his post which i DID argue was that the was that the W7 was supposed to be equivalent to the original stroker, which it wasn't. Wish there was a JL rep on this board..that would clear things up a bit.

I would agree with you there on what you have said. Never hurts to clear things up posted_image

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Stroker or W7?