What Door Speakers To buy
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Forum Name: Car Audio
Forum Discription: Car Stereos, Amplifiers, Crossovers, Processors, Speakers, Subwoofers, etc.
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Printed Date: September 09, 2025 at 7:50 AM
Topic: What Door Speakers To buy
Posted By: ryanmc
Subject: What Door Speakers To buy
Date Posted: April 03, 2005 at 8:35 AM
I want to get new speakers for my front doors they will take up to 6.5 I would like to spend up to 300 or around but thats not set in stone i also have factory tweeters in my windshield pillar so replacing them would be good too. Also is there any that will go down to 60hz i usually like my sub at or below 60 so it would be nice for them to pick up there. -------------
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Posted By: tcss
Date Posted: April 03, 2005 at 1:38 PM
Personal favorites are Alpine SPX-177 ( more then $300 ) and JL VR650csi ( about $300 ). Listen to as many name brand speakers as possible with the type of music you listen to. If they are in your price range and you have enough power to drive them, let YOUR ears decide.
Posted By: dwarren
Date Posted: April 03, 2005 at 1:58 PM
you better shoot for 80hz, you might have more options. And of course go listen to them first! Some suggestions though, Boston, Infinity, I think the MB Quart pce216's are down to about $289 at most places.
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Posted By: sedate
Date Posted: April 03, 2005 at 2:03 PM
60Hz for a 6.5? I doubt you'll find many 6.5's that will play that low at any considerable volume...
Certainly not the JL VR series speakers, I'm using both coaxials (6.5's, back dash) and comp's (5.25's, factory door location) and niether will play well at all if I cross them much below 80... I've tried and I've got gobs of power to play with.
I'd be interested to see what others say about that much bass from a 6.5...
Posted By: tcss
Date Posted: April 03, 2005 at 2:11 PM
Just finished a Honda S-2000 with Alpine SPX-177 running full range with a JL E-2150. Sounded great.
Posted By: dwarren
Date Posted: April 03, 2005 at 4:12 PM
tcss, did it have a sub?
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Posted By: tcss
Date Posted: April 03, 2005 at 4:20 PM
No, we were trying to get the best sound out of just the stock locations. It was the best non-sub , 17cm system I've ever done.
Posted By: dwarren
Date Posted: April 03, 2005 at 4:25 PM
well in your case it would be ok play it full range since there is no sub, but ryanmc has a sub, so crossing it over at about 80 or above would be more ideal, correct?
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Posted By: tcss
Date Posted: April 03, 2005 at 4:49 PM
Yes and no. Crossing over at 80 hz or above does protect the front speakers more as far as not bottoming out at higher volumes. I like to cross mine over at 63 hz because it allows the sound stage to move to the front of the car where it should be. Crossing over higher pushes some mid bass and some of the sound stage to the rear. It's more a question of spl vs. sq.
Posted By: sedate
Date Posted: April 03, 2005 at 5:04 PM
tcss: No doubt, I bet those comps souded great.. the e-series amps from JL are really something ... mated to half-way decent comps I bet that setup would sound excellent..
Yea there isn't really anything wrong with the Alpine comps per se, just that asking for 60Hz or so from (I assume) an amped 6.5 would, in my experience, drive it quickly to distortion... Asking 80Hz from the same speaker would allow it to play quite a bit louder and remain distortion free...
Even if you could get a comparitivly clean 60Hz from a 6.5, a woofer would sound quite a bit better doing it.
RyanMC: is your goal to move some of your upper-bass frequencies to the front of the car to reduce the sense that the bass is coming from behind you? <this can be quite a challenge on anything approaching a budget> I'm not to sure what your install situation is but there are some REALLY amazing 3-way comp systems out there... check out the JLXR series 3-ways.. 1" tweet, 4" midrange, and a 6.5" mid-woofer.. I bet you'd have more luck getting < 80hz from a comp system like that. If you really wanna get goofy, and kicks are an option, you could consider the Pheonix Gold Titanium Elites.. thats a 5.25" midbass and a 9" woofer.. one of the moderators here was talking about how vicious that setup was..
Or you could raise your requirements to 80hz.. =)
Posted By: ryanmc
Date Posted: April 05, 2005 at 7:06 PM
theres a few reason for wanting to go down to 60hz in front one is i like my crossover on sub at or below 60 which would leave out everything between 60 and 80 if fronts were set to 80. another is sometimes theres obstructions or other reason sub will be off or quite low and will lose on somesound there too the other is i like the fuller sound i get in the front by having it up there i guess thats what you mean by moving the sound stage. another reason this is a big interest to me is one time awhile back i was able to get 6x9's in my doors of a nissan 240 and this made some great sound and it was able to get down to the 60hz wouldnt handle tons of watts but had a real nice sound. i dont really have space for a 3 peice component up front just the 6.5 in door and tweeter in pillar thanks again for your thoughts on this its not so much of a budget issue i thought i would be able to get a set for about 300 but if theres sets out there that are more but will get the job done they are of interest to me. -------------
Posted By: tcss
Date Posted: April 05, 2005 at 7:14 PM
Go listen to Alpine's SPX - 177R.
Posted By: sedate
Date Posted: April 05, 2005 at 8:29 PM
Yea it seems to me if thats the way you feel tcss is probably right...
You'd just be sacrificing some volume headroom for your prefered listening settings..
Honestly, I'm not to sure about what else to recommend to you... I imagine any of a dozen different speaker systems would suit your needs just fine, especially at a $300 price point. If I could buy any comp set right now.. I'd go with the Boston Acoustics Pro-series.. my dealer quoted me $350...
I bet the Alpines tcss is recommending are prolly pretty nice as well.. I've heard Alpines' with gobs of midbass but I'm not to sure about those..
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Posted By: Francious70
Date Posted: April 06, 2005 at 9:44 AM
Look, THX standards say that bass is unlocalisable @ 80 Hz, so that's where you want your sub crossed at for a good sound stage. It will prevent the front speakers from struggling.
Ryan, what you may want to look at doing is a three way system in the front.
7" speaker in the door
4" speaker in a kick
Tweeter in a kick
Paul
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