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Topic: What sub to get?

Posted By: AJRXtreme
Subject: What sub to get?
Date Posted: April 08, 2005 at 10:56 PM

OK my boy jake here has a dodge ram pickup 2002. He's been wnating a system for quite some time but cant decide what subs to get. Hes not under too much of a spending limit so hes got some money. He plans on putting the subs in the custom enclosure they sell on fleabay that goes under the back seat for 12" subs. There are so many brands to choose from but thats where the 12volt comes into play. He listens to rap mostly and wants quite a bit of SQ but also wants rediculous amount of bass that doesnt drain out the components. I know he should go around and listen for himself cause everyone has different ears but i have heard some good subs and i know i can trust u guys for good subs. He wants 2 12" subs and is a fan of SQ but still wants some clean pounding bass. Any suggestions just holla. Thanks



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03 F150 on 24's
HU:Pioneer DVD5700
Frt:MC57
Subs:(12)S12L7
Amps:(3)KX2500.1's, MC-2004



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Posted By: stevdart
Date Posted: April 08, 2005 at 11:23 PM

Does he have an amp yet or is that yet to come?

Oh, and BTW a custom enclosure is only custom when you know what subs are going into it.  Post a link to it if you will.



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Posted By: boardinbum
Date Posted: April 08, 2005 at 11:24 PM
If money isn't an issue, I'd suggest maybe some W7's. Those are great SQL subs.




Posted By: AJRXtreme
Date Posted: April 08, 2005 at 11:28 PM
he will buy an amp necessary for his subs. Arent the W7's around $800 a sub? The Box hes getting is .67 cu feet for each sub. Thankyou for your replies.

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03 F150 on 24's
HU:Pioneer DVD5700
Frt:MC57
Subs:(12)S12L7
Amps:(3)KX2500.1's, MC-2004




Posted By: stevdart
Date Posted: April 08, 2005 at 11:37 PM
He's going to need a lot of power for those little enclosures.  I hope they are very well built!  Finding SQ with that small of an airspace is going to be a tough one.....




Posted By: AJRXtreme
Date Posted: April 08, 2005 at 11:42 PM
Well the W7's are deff out of his price range. What about the W6's?

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03 F150 on 24's
HU:Pioneer DVD5700
Frt:MC57
Subs:(12)S12L7
Amps:(3)KX2500.1's, MC-2004




Posted By: boardinbum
Date Posted: April 08, 2005 at 11:42 PM
Now that I think about it, if he's more of an SQ guy, check out Image Dynamics. Great SQ subs that are made to work well in small boxes. That or maybe look into Adire Shivas (adireaudio)




Posted By: boardinbum
Date Posted: April 08, 2005 at 11:49 PM




Posted By: AJRXtreme
Date Posted: April 08, 2005 at 11:58 PM

would JL w6's be ok or should he look into the adire



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03 F150 on 24's
HU:Pioneer DVD5700
Frt:MC57
Subs:(12)S12L7
Amps:(3)KX2500.1's, MC-2004




Posted By: sedate
Date Posted: April 09, 2005 at 9:13 AM
I know from experience *any size* W6 will sound awful in a .67f3 box. That's a sub that likes lotsa breathing room, no matter what "Small Box Excellence. . . Redefined" crap JL likes to spew. Not only that, I'd be suprised if he could fit a W6 in a box that tiny... that sub's magnet structure is so enormous..

The Q is going to be so high on that box I couldn't make any recommendations...

.. well okay here's a recommendation... scrap the 2x12's idea and get a single woofer with enough air to actually breath ...

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Posted By: kfr01
Date Posted: April 09, 2005 at 12:31 PM

If you need that kind of small size enclosure I would HIGHLY recommend looking at Image Dynamics IDQ series. 

https://www.cardomain.com/item/IDSIDQ12D2V2

They were designed to fit in small enclosures and have great SQ while doing it.  They don't require a crazy amount of amplifier power. 

That said, they are more SQ drivers than SPL drivers.  500w of properly set gain is all I'd ever look at throwing at these drivers. 

.... or the new Brahma's when they come out.  Both the SQ and the output will be excellent.



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Posted By: forbidden
Date Posted: April 09, 2005 at 12:34 PM

^^^^^ Exactly. This vehicle and the needs of the user dictate a custom built box for a specific sub or subs. The sub or subs will have to be chosen based on the ability to fit into the space available. A sealed box is very forgiving on any sub you put into it. In some cases the el-cheapo Wal-Mart special will outperform the expensive brand name sub. Bass response is more about the box than it is the sub.

There is no way that I would try and do 2 12's in this vehicle (save for maybe the Pioneer Premier 12" shallow mount sub if he has to have a 12"). I would find out from a custom box builder at one of the local shops as to how much airspace is available under the seat and which direction to fire the subs, up into the bottom of the seat, down into the floor or forward into the cabin (this being the best use of precious space). A stellar performer in a small enclosure is the MB Quart RWE254 in a 1.25 cu.ft slot port enclosure.



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Posted By: sinistar
Date Posted: April 09, 2005 at 1:19 PM
From what I've read and seen, the Image Dynamics IDQ's are a good choice for small enclosures and also very affordable. The IDMAX's won't work with that air space so make sure you're looking at the right ones. If your buddy is set on that box, I think this is one of your best choices. If he's willing to change the design and setup, then your options are endless and change all over the board.  Smaller enclosures require more power than a ported design to get the same bump you are looking for so that is also something to think about. I think sealed boxes have a better all around sound, but if he's really mainly into rap then a ported box could be the way to go. Lots of options to look at before he makes a solid decision.




Posted By: Drewt
Date Posted: April 09, 2005 at 5:08 PM
go with a single 12" bramha, that'll bound like hell if you put enough power to it, although it may be out of his budget...

-Drew




Posted By: oatmeal
Date Posted: April 10, 2005 at 11:25 AM
I'm new here as well, but how do you think a small depth mounted sub would work here? Audiobahn (I know...) has a 1200W sub with a 4.5" mounting depth. It is part of their pro-compression series and the model number is AWP310T. With a small mounting depth, would that offset the small volume problem?




Posted By: DYohn
Date Posted: April 10, 2005 at 11:54 AM
Mounting depth and volume requirements have nothing to do with each other.  I cannot recomend anything from Audiobahn.  In general, compression drivers tend to work well for high SPL applications, but have terrible SQ.

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