Kicker Ports ha ha!
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Printed Date: April 27, 2024 at 10:48 PM
Topic: Kicker Ports ha ha!
Posted By: 5150azn
Subject: Kicker Ports ha ha!
Date Posted: April 12, 2005 at 11:55 AM
I was in Circuit City the other day giving some installers a hard time. They were showing me the kickers they now carried. Whats up with the 10" ports on their box? If thats not a big port I don't know what is. Kids can probably play hide an seek with that sub box.
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Posted By: DYohn
Date Posted: April 12, 2005 at 12:42 PM
Didn't you know that bigger is better? Also if it has neon and chrome it adds at least 3db! ------------- Support the12volt.com
Posted By: joebobcletusjr
Date Posted: April 12, 2005 at 1:04 PM
DYohn] wrote:
idn't you know that bigger is better? Also if it has neon and chrome it adds at least 3db!
In that case I am going completely free-air, screw boxes, if I just put my sub in my trunk and just let it roll around, it will be even better! I will have some pics of my nex install which will consist of a sub mounted to a flat piece of MDF and just chilling in my trunk, don't know how long it will take, but I should be finished after all of my math is finished... i'd say 3 months (that is sarcasm by the way, it's so hard to tell sometimes without voice inflection) ------------- eh? what did you just say?
Posted By: DYohn
Date Posted: April 12, 2005 at 1:12 PM
The old "roll around in the trunk" install works great, but can be annoying with all the banging as you go around curves, plus you need to use about 10 feet of speaker wire so it won't pull out. I've found if you use the magnet to "stick" the woofer to the side of the car it's better. Or just jab a screwdriver through the cone and stick it into the carpet someplace. This works especially well with Sony subs.  ------------- Support the12volt.com
Posted By: spl-Hz
Date Posted: April 12, 2005 at 1:33 PM
You gotta love the humor on this Forum. God I love the 12 volt and it's contributer's!!!!!
Posted By: Optik
Date Posted: April 12, 2005 at 1:34 PM
LMAO this is great well my last install was a peice of diamond plate chromed and had neons on it looked really good just wedged it between the seats sounded awsome and the guy loved the look. maybe the next one i will mount the subs on the plate instead of using the magnet
Posted By: 5150azn
Date Posted: April 12, 2005 at 1:37 PM
c'mon guys we are talking about ports here not free-air. For example mounting a sub to a pvc pipe, thats engineering.
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Posted By: spl-Hz
Date Posted: April 12, 2005 at 1:44 PM
Or a five gallon bucket with rachet ties holding it to the trunk floor right. Don't forget the aluminum flex tubing from your dryer ported through the rear deck!! HAHA
Posted By: 5150azn
Date Posted: April 12, 2005 at 2:18 PM
haha five gallon bucket!!! goddam you guys lmao
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Posted By: chucksnee
Date Posted: April 12, 2005 at 3:05 PM
O.K. i may be off here but i know alot of guys who use DD subs and amps and they use ports that are 5 inch wide x 12 inch tall x 16 inch deep(long) port.
Posted By: DYohn
Date Posted: April 12, 2005 at 3:22 PM
There is noting wrong with using a large port as long as it is properly designed for the enclosure. In fact, large ports can be an excellent solution assuming you have desinged them correctly. I was just making fun of what appeared to be merely a marketing gimick in the first post. ------------- Support the12volt.com
Posted By: joebobcletusjr
Date Posted: April 12, 2005 at 5:38 PM
DYohn] wrote:
here is noting wrong with using a large port as long as it is properly designed for the enclosure. In fact, large ports can be an excellent solution assuming you have desinged them correctly. I was just making fun of what appeared to be merely a marketing gimick in the first post.
You are right, unfortunately, the average joe does not know enough about subs and porper port tuning, so they do go with what is flashy and looks cool, how do you think Sony Explod and Audibahn are still around (not saying these brands are total crap, they are just crap, I have heard some decent sounding subs and have seen amps that come close to the power they advertise...at 20 volts from both brands.) I am sure there is a practical use for a 10 inch port, but I am sure that most people could sleep inside a box that huge, that and it would be pretty tough to keep calcualting box volume and port volume when you have to refigure the air displacement of the port... but I for some reason just do it the old fashioned way, I am sure this would not be a problem with something like winsl, or what ever it is ------------- eh? what did you just say?
Posted By: DYohn
Date Posted: April 12, 2005 at 5:55 PM
Just as a point of reference for anyone who's made it this far into this thread, assuming a 4 cuft enclosure for dual 10" woofers, if it used 2X10" diameter ports and was tuned to 30Hz: each port needs to be 110.27" long. That would be an interesting enclosure. ------------- Support the12volt.com
Posted By: 5150azn
Date Posted: April 12, 2005 at 6:20 PM
I think I saw them making that on the next pimp my ride! lol
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Posted By: gladbach
Date Posted: April 12, 2005 at 8:35 PM
the dual comp boxes sound like *ss, but the dual 12 compVR loaded enclosure pounds. as does the single L5 12 box, but its ports aren't huge like the previous 2. its definitely not made for sq, but otherwise kicks ass, if thats what you are looking for. as for the size of the ports, I some how doubt a company like kicker would put a port in their boxes that was useless, it just doesnt make sense to spend the money to do something that is a hinderance, marketing or not. (I admit when I saw those ports, and stuck my arm ALL THE WAY IN, i was like w t f?) they even have a ton of polyfill in there too.
as for audiobahn, I've installed quite a few of their amps (subs in general are so so, nothing special) but I respect their amps for the money. the 8000t 800@2ohm amp is pretty solid,(only problem ive seen is that the fans sometimes go bad, but easily fixed, and not really needed in the first place) and I've put other 4 channel amps in cars, had noise, and replaced them with an audiobahn amp and had the problem disappear.
Posted By: jeffchilcott
Date Posted: April 12, 2005 at 9:34 PM
the new box we are designing for a single 18 inch sub will have a port that is 4 inchs wide by 46 inches long by 10.5 inches deep. thats a big port.....or my ported SQL boxes it is common to see a port thats 2 wide by 13.5 long by 20-30 deep ports are crazy, learn them respect them
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Posted By: soundmasta
Date Posted: April 13, 2005 at 7:39 AM
i built a box for the solo-x last summer that had two interchangable ports...one for daily listening and one for spl in a 10 cubic foot box...i could crawl into the box through the spl port. absoultley huge.
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Posted By: gladbach
Date Posted: April 13, 2005 at 8:28 PM
dont forget the fact that these loaded kicker boxes have a ton of polyfill as well stuffed in there, cheating the airspace even more.
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