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Best Mix of SPL and SQ

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Topic: Best Mix of SPL and SQ

Posted By: SAMT18
Subject: Best Mix of SPL and SQ
Date Posted: April 22, 2005 at 7:03 PM

Regarding strictly 15" subs, what subs would offer the best mix of SPL and SQ?  I want them to be loud and to feel them, but I don't want them to sound like crap either.  MTX?  Rockford?  Adire?  Thanks fellas.



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Posted By: oonikfraleyoo
Date Posted: April 22, 2005 at 7:07 PM
Adire

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Posted By: SAMT18
Date Posted: April 22, 2005 at 7:09 PM
How long is it gonna be til I could get a couple of the 15's?




Posted By: Alpine Guy
Date Posted: April 22, 2005 at 7:37 PM

about 3-4 weeks

Pretty much the same sub is the Resonant Engineering XXX.



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Posted By: SAMT18
Date Posted: April 22, 2005 at 7:46 PM
Ahh ok.   So there is no wait on the XXX?




Posted By: Alpine Guy
Date Posted: April 22, 2005 at 8:41 PM
Im pretty shure there is no wait on the xxx, check out their dealer locator and give a dealer a call for availability.

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2003 Chevy Avalanche,Eclipse CD7000,Morel Elate 5,Adire Extremis,Alpine PDX-4.150, 15" TC-3000, 2 Alpine PDX-1.1000, 470Amp HO Alt.




Posted By: forbidden
Date Posted: April 22, 2005 at 8:49 PM
Throw Eclipse aluminum and titanium series into this mix as well and absolutely no wait. They are a tried and true performer built from the ground up years ago. Most subs built by the "new breed" of companies are designed from a parts book and built by a build house. Now this does not apply to all "new breed" companies (notably Adire as they are now going in house, maybe Stephen will add to this - unsure about Adire) but really research what you are after. Why I can recommend the Eclipse is simple, I have used them and although they are not cheap, they perform with amazing and highly predictable results.

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Posted By: Alpine Guy
Date Posted: April 22, 2005 at 8:51 PM
Ya i reccomend the eclipse subs too, i just did an install with the 7300 series and impressed the heck out of me.

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2003 Chevy Avalanche,Eclipse CD7000,Morel Elate 5,Adire Extremis,Alpine PDX-4.150, 15" TC-3000, 2 Alpine PDX-1.1000, 470Amp HO Alt.




Posted By: forbidden
Date Posted: April 22, 2005 at 8:57 PM
Hehe, you should see what I am working on.....

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Posted By: mobileworks
Date Posted: April 22, 2005 at 10:04 PM
I think the kind of vehilce that its going in will make a bigger difference.....So I'll ask what kind of car or vehicle are you going to put this in?

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Posted By: SAMT18
Date Posted: April 22, 2005 at 10:12 PM

They are gonna go in a 2003 Explorer.





Posted By: Alpine Guy
Date Posted: April 22, 2005 at 11:25 PM
What are you working on Forbidden?

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Posted By: kfr01
Date Posted: April 23, 2005 at 12:00 AM
Unless you need the subs now I would wait to at least consider Adire's new offerings against the Eclipse. That said, you can't go wrong with Eclipse.

(I would bet money that when Adire's new line is released it will be the price/performance leading subwoofer line in terms of staying clean loud and low).

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Posted By: jeffchilcott
Date Posted: April 23, 2005 at 12:21 AM
what what????? new sub?    SQL woofer????     what am I hearing?    we need new subs, the aluminums dont like to take 1500rms each,   well Im sure they do, but they cannot produce any more output,   I dont think they are supposed to move as far as they do right now. haha,     but anyways rob, stephen, keep me posted on this I am really looking for something new to take approx 750-1500 rms

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Posted By: kfr01
Date Posted: April 23, 2005 at 12:43 AM
Yeah, all of Adire's subwoofer lines are being revamped and rumor has it due for release within a month or so.

The lines use the old names, but the offerings are being expanded quite a bit and modified. This is speculation based on limited information, but I bet the three XBL lines are going to become the "clean bass" subs to beat at their respective price levels, with the Tumult simply being the line to beat at any price.


https://forum.soundillusions.net/showthread.php?t=49028

From Dan Wiggin's Post:

"""" Here's some basic info. More will be following shortly (no, I won't specify an exact date):

Complete product lines:

Shiva. Two inch diameter voice coil, overhung design, 14.5mm one way Xmax. 10", 12", 15" sizes, dual 8s and dual 4s available. Basic entry level SQL sub, low cost, easy to use, good performer.

Tempest. 2.5 inch diameter voice coil, overhung design, 18.5mm one way Xmax. 10", 12", 15" sizes, dual 8s, dual 4s and dual 2s available. All around banger. Will play deep, good SQ, get loud, budget SQL weighted to more SPL than SQ.

Maelstrom. Three inch diameter voice coil, overhung design, 24mm one way Xmax. 12", 15", 18" sizes, dual 4s and dual 2s available. Monster big driver. Handle lots of power. Real SPL monster, high BL (29 N/A), high stroke, still retain some decent SQ.

Koda. Two inch diameter voice coil, XBL2 motor, 18.5mm one way Xmax. 10", 12", 15" sizes, dual 8s and dual 4s. Basic entry level SQL sub, low cost, easy to use, better SQ than the overhungs with output around the Tempests. Like the current Koda 10s.

Brahma. 2.5" diameter voice coil, XBL2 motor, 26mm one way Xmax. 10", 12", 15" sizes, dual 4s and dual 2s. midline SQL sub, competitive price, similar to the current Brahmas in SQ and SPL.

Tumult. Three inch diameter voice coil, XBL2 motor, 34mm one way Xmax. 12", 15", 18" sizes, dual 4s and dual 2s. Top of the line in output, great SQ. Like the current Tumults, just more options.

That's the starting lineup. And I'll post more details when it's appropriate, so no begging...

Dan Wiggins
Adire Audio""""


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