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How To Crimp 4awg already in a Car

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Topic: How To Crimp 4awg already in a Car

Posted By: skoldspuppy
Subject: How To Crimp 4awg already in a Car
Date Posted: April 23, 2005 at 5:32 PM

Ok today I noticed that my orignal 4awg crimp on my power connector to my wifes brutus was starting to get loose, even though I used a hefty hammer on the orignal install to crimp it

So how do I now make the crimp more secure, I cant take the wire out of the car to put a new connector on it, Im not spending 200 bucks on a 4awg crimper, so what are my options?

Should I get a inexpensive solder iron and rely on the solder to hold it and handle the power?
Can I use a C-Clamp to crush it down?

Other Suggestions?

Thanks All



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Posted By: racer427
Date Posted: April 23, 2005 at 5:42 PM

I would solder the terminals on, I have 2 4guage power wires running from the front to back and I soldered all of the terminals and have not had any probles mith them.

Chris



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Posted By: Alpine Guy
Date Posted: April 23, 2005 at 6:32 PM

Cram the wires together, use a torch to heat them up then cram about a foot of solder in there and you'll be set.



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Posted By: Captanham
Date Posted: April 23, 2005 at 6:33 PM
solder it, or they do make cripers for 4 ga.. and i've never heard of them being 200, i had one that i spent like 22 bucks on (it said it only went to 6  but it did 4 no prob, the klein ones do it, i would prolly just crimp the hell out of it and solder it tho)

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Posted By: skoldspuppy
Date Posted: April 23, 2005 at 7:49 PM

Captanham wrote:

solder it, or they do make cripers for 4 ga.. and i've never heard of them being 200, i had one that i spent like 22 bucks on (it said it only went to 6  but it did 4 no prob, the klein ones do it, i would prolly just crimp the hell out of it and solder it tho)

You got a part number and a place I can get one?



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2004 Honda Civic Ex 4Dr

Kenwood DDX-7015/W Nav
4 Fosgate T152C
Hifonics Brutus BX1500D
RE XXX 12 in a 4 Cube Snail Shell




Posted By: overworked2
Date Posted: April 23, 2005 at 8:40 PM
perhaps you could even take it to an install bay and get them to do it with the correct crimpers, which apply several tons of pressure and then fill it with a LOT of solder. The cheap handheld ones aren't that great. You need several tons do to it properly.

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Posted By: skoldspuppy
Date Posted: April 24, 2005 at 9:51 AM

overworked2 wrote:

perhaps you could even take it to an install bay and get them to do it with the correct crimpers, which apply several tons of pressure and then fill it with a LOT of solder. The cheap handheld ones aren't that great. You need several tons do to it properly.

I thought of that but to 2 closest shops dont crimp or solder connections that big, they do the same as me just pound the hell out of it with a sledgehammer

Im going to home depot to pick up a torch and to radioshack to get some solder, that should take care of the problem



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2004 Honda Civic Ex 4Dr

Kenwood DDX-7015/W Nav
4 Fosgate T152C
Hifonics Brutus BX1500D
RE XXX 12 in a 4 Cube Snail Shell




Posted By: stevdart
Date Posted: April 24, 2005 at 11:10 AM

If you've ever seen my posts about using bolt cutters....

What you need is leverage, and bolt cutters will do just that.  If the cutter is old and worn out all the better.  I wouldn't attempt to solder without crimping first because you won't get a good electrical connection.



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Posted By: auex
Date Posted: April 24, 2005 at 11:58 AM
Vice grips. Just keep tightening them until you can't crimp any further. Then solder. You could also use regular crimpers, but you run the risk of breaking them. I know from experience, damn fng's kept using my tools to crimp 4/2 gauge connectors with my snap on crimpers and breaking them(worse thing about it was the fact we had large gauge crimpers).

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Posted By: Captanham
Date Posted: April 24, 2005 at 2:38 PM

the klein ones are a "amtkl1006" 17.89 from AM distributors (tax id needed) they will do a pretty good job, like i said they aren't ment specifically for 4 ga, but they do it good with a little bit of effort, then you just solder a bit and it's perfect

am's number is 8883451300



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Posted By: Captanham
Date Posted: April 24, 2005 at 2:40 PM
sorry, you can also get them from AAMP of AMERICA. they have more locations, i don't have there number in front of me

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Posted By: skoldspuppy
Date Posted: April 24, 2005 at 6:44 PM

I got it done, used some vice grips in fact broke them.. luckly they were craftsman so I got a brand new pair, then I torched the hell out of them and loaded it up with solder, these connectors are never going to come off again

Thanks all



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2004 Honda Civic Ex 4Dr

Kenwood DDX-7015/W Nav
4 Fosgate T152C
Hifonics Brutus BX1500D
RE XXX 12 in a 4 Cube Snail Shell




Posted By: the4biddendonut
Date Posted: April 29, 2005 at 4:14 PM

this is what i use when i'm in your situation.  you can either use a hamer or some kind of vice to power the crimper. it's a lot cheaper than a crimping tool that comes with all the dies and whatnot.  i found this one for 30 dollars.  i know snap-on makes one too.

https://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/4/web/604000-604999/604975_27_full.jpg



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Posted By: bryan-j
Date Posted: April 29, 2005 at 5:29 PM

Stinger also makes a great accessory for connecting 4g (part# scoup4) msrp $6.00 or 1/0g (part# scoup0) msrp $7.50.  These are basically barrel connectors with allen heads.  You might want to through some electrical tape around the terminal for extra protection against wear. Then slip on a some heat shrink tubing and you should be set.





Posted By: the4biddendonut
Date Posted: April 29, 2005 at 11:18 PM

here's a crimper for large awg wire for 35 bones, plus shipping. 

https://www.terminaltown.com/Pages/Page21.html



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Posted By: skoldspuppy
Date Posted: April 30, 2005 at 9:54 AM

Thanks guys for all the suggestions

But I got it fixed so no worries..

If  A mod would kindly close this thread we will be all set

Later

---Skold



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2004 Honda Civic Ex 4Dr

Kenwood DDX-7015/W Nav
4 Fosgate T152C
Hifonics Brutus BX1500D
RE XXX 12 in a 4 Cube Snail Shell




Posted By: the4biddendonut
Date Posted: May 06, 2005 at 2:35 PM
for future reference,  vise grips are not crimpers and should never be used in place of a crimper.  as for solder, it is better than a vise grip crimp, but is still not as good as a crimp. i speak from experience as a construction electrician, and as far as the national electric code is concerned, soldering is not considered a permanent wiring method.

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