RE XXX VS. ADIRE BRAMHA
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Forum Name: Car Audio
Forum Discription: Car Stereos, Amplifiers, Crossovers, Processors, Speakers, Subwoofers, etc.
URL: https://www.the12volt.com/installbay/forum_posts.asp?tid=54738
Printed Date: April 26, 2024 at 1:47 AM
Topic: RE XXX VS. ADIRE BRAMHA
Posted By: jeffchilcott
Subject: RE XXX VS. ADIRE BRAMHA
Date Posted: April 27, 2005 at 5:33 PM
Has anyone done a side by side comparison, would like to hear from stephen on this. I am looking for a oponion because we are looking for new subs and need something to be extreamly clean in the right box for street use, and extreamly loud in a box for SPL. looking to get 3 12 inch subs, each one will be running off its own Kicker KX1200.1
I am thinking about getting a lightning audio 50 farad cap to keep up with the amps HAHAHHAAHAHAHHAHAHAHHA just kidding.
We have the power for burps running this setup for SPL, for Daily driving I will have 2 Kicker KX1200's strapped to provide a total of 3000 watts. we probably will just run 2 subs on the street but you never know!
Really just looking for some comparisons on the subs,
Stephen help me out if you have any write ups or anything on the new bramaha's
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Posted By: Steven Kephart
Date Posted: April 27, 2005 at 5:58 PM
Between those subs and the uses you are looking at, I would recommend the XXX as it is harder to break, but require a larger enclosure. From our linup, I would suggest instead the Tumult subs. They will hold up much better than the Brahma would in SPL. Our true SPL sub will be the Maelstrom, but they won't have the SQ capability of any of the other subs mentioned. Steven Kephart Adire Audio -------------
Posted By: SAMT18
Date Posted: April 27, 2005 at 7:01 PM
Steven, do you know when the new lineup for Adire is coming out? Thanks.
Posted By: jeffchilcott
Date Posted: April 27, 2005 at 8:35 PM
stephen I have ventured through the adire site, and in the car audio sit there is nothing about the sub lineup. What gives? WHOA!!!! I just check before I made a fool of myself, you guys updated the page yea! I have some reading to do now. So you would recommend the tumult? Will they really be able to stand up againt the XXX in SPL? I am looking really for a Comp grade sub, that I can use on the side. if it comes down to it we can use the Eclipse's but 145-150db just isnt going to cut it come world finals time. Let me know if you have any other advice or suggestions
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2009 0-1000 Trunk WR 154.0DB 2009 1001+ Trunk WR
2007 USACI World Champion
2007 World Record
2006 USACI Finals 2nd Place
Posted By: Drewt
Date Posted: April 27, 2005 at 8:51 PM
hmmm...now I'm considering a Brahma 12D4 now....
Ok, it says power rating is 1000 watts....If I have an amp that pushes 550 watts RMS, it it gonna work?? (basically, is that a 1000 watts max or 1000 watts RMS)
Thanks!!
-Drew
Posted By: Alpine Guy
Date Posted: April 27, 2005 at 9:15 PM
Those prices are discurageing  . ------------- 2003 Chevy Avalanche,Eclipse CD7000,Morel Elate 5,Adire Extremis,Alpine PDX-4.150, 15" TC-3000, 2 Alpine PDX-1.1000, 470Amp HO Alt.
Posted By: kfr01
Date Posted: April 27, 2005 at 10:19 PM
Actually I think those prices are right in line with what they should be. Yes, the Tumult line is expensive --- it should be! Show me another subwoofer on the market those specs. (pssst, there isn't one). RE? Look at the difference in fs. A full 10hz+ lower. These are some subs capable of very -very- VERY deep bass. Wow, I mean, model these Tumults out. Sealed with very little EQ .. or ported in a large box, we're talking -3db around 20hz, anechoic.
The Tumult line is designed to be the best in SQ and SPL. I think that price is competitive for what it actually is.
This is why they set up the price structure how they have. Folks want cheaper? They can go Koda or Brahma without losing almost any SQ... The new Brahmas are also nearly 10hz lower with the fs. Very nice. I just want to point out that in sealed boxes these f3 numbers are below almost all other car audio subwoofers I've seen. Very nice!
I'm think the new specs and pricing structure is great and makes a lot of sense.
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Posted By: Alpine Guy
Date Posted: April 27, 2005 at 11:37 PM
I have never seen a graph like the one i got after plotting up the Tumult 12! BEAUTIFUL! 1 cu.ft sealed, or 1.5cu.ft ported were both smooth as butter. Thats the first woofer i have seen where the graph actually looks better ported! Anywho..time to save up....and change my system design AGAIN... uggh it never ends ------------- 2003 Chevy Avalanche,Eclipse CD7000,Morel Elate 5,Adire Extremis,Alpine PDX-4.150, 15" TC-3000, 2 Alpine PDX-1.1000, 470Amp HO Alt.
Posted By: kfr01
Date Posted: April 28, 2005 at 12:32 AM
Yeah, the 12" Brahma's f3 when ported is pretty nice. I still like the idea of a 10" comfortably tuned to 21hz in a 1ft^3 box. Awesome. I may be a Brahma owner whenever these things hit the street.
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Posted By: sinistar
Date Posted: April 28, 2005 at 3:03 PM
I hadn't seen the new specs and prices so I checked it out. Nice to see the site updated and hopefully prepping for the release of the new lineups. Looking at the prices, I do think they are a little high, but you pay for what you get and I believe they will be worth every cent. I also noticed that it is an MSRP, so there is a chance they could be a little lower. I don't know many places that sell equipment at retail cost, so I'm hoping this stands true here as well. Looking at the specs I hope the new Brahma 10's will work in my small sealed enclosure as they describe. If I can get away with using my existing box I would be the happiest man alive. Save me a couple hundred right there which would help pay for my subs. Paired with my diamond 1200.1, the 10D4's sound like a perfect fit for me. nice.
Posted By: DYohn
Date Posted: April 28, 2005 at 3:14 PM
Remember the prices they are showing are listed as MSRP. The actual selling prices will be set by the dealer network. And I agree: at the previous factory direct price of $499 the Tumult was the best subwoofer bargin on the planet. Even if the MSRP holds up, this sub will compete with drivers costing three times as much and will sound better, IMO. ------------- Support the12volt.com
Posted By: Sobe_Death
Date Posted: April 28, 2005 at 8:37 PM
i was checking out the site as well, and noticed that the 12" shivas are $55 more (suggested of course) than they were before. any changes in them we should know about?
Posted By: kfr01
Date Posted: April 28, 2005 at 10:32 PM
Well, almost all the specs changed. All of Adire's drivers have been updated. They are not the same driver.
Importantly, you should realize where the new Shiva fits. It was designed as a very versatile and high value woofer line. They want folks to throw the new shiva in a box and be happy with the results. To that end, the new Shiva line is slightly more efficient and works in smaller boxes than the old Shiva line. By my calculations, for example, the new Shiva 12" is now comfortable in box sizes under 1ft^3. The old Shiva really wasn't Shoot, under .7ft^3 achieves a Qtc around 0.9. Pretty good for a 12! The old Shiva was at a Qtc of 0.9 at around 1.15ft^3. Box sizes for ported enclosures are smaller in the same way, making the Shiva line more versatile in-car.
I have no doubts that the build and sound quality will meet and exceed that of the old Shiva.
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