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Topic: Pimp my ride? bad rep

Posted By: Uniqueauto
Subject: Pimp my ride? bad rep
Date Posted: May 02, 2005 at 8:08 PM

I think shows like pimp my ride is bringing a bad rep to this biz. I became an installer because it was a low key career with lots of pay ,now its some type of tv joke. "Unique Whips", now thats a show that displays real installers at work. MTV and other networks are making alot of money broadcasting this dumb commericals and stuff. Seems kind of like a joke. Can't wait until things are back to normal.

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Posted By: Izzum88
Date Posted: May 02, 2005 at 8:50 PM
Hey i know what you mean and I am by no means in the installation business. I know basics of car audio and other things and when I watch that show I feel like the show takes away from the creativity you see and how cool competition cars are. People look at something I think is awesome and dont think its cool because it doesn't have a hot tub or pool table in the back like on pimp my ride. I dont know if this is what you were talking about or not but thats my opinion.




Posted By: stevdart
Date Posted: May 02, 2005 at 8:52 PM

Uniqueauto wrote:

because it was a low key career with lots of pay

Oh!  I thought you said lots of PLAY.  lol



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Posted By: pimpincavy
Date Posted: May 02, 2005 at 9:13 PM
Some of PMRs stuff is dumb (the hottub, the tv under the car, the projection screen etc.) But some of the cars they have done I liked, paticualrly the Eclipse they did last episode, the old chevy (55 I think) and some of the ones from the first season like they cutlass.

I have never watched Unique Whips (i dont have speed channel) but I have heard it is more about the dynamics of the owner and employees then it is about the cars. Also I would rather see a regular joe get his/her ride pimped then a spoiled rich celebrity get theirs tricked out by unique autosports or whatever the place is called.

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Posted By: kfr01
Date Posted: May 02, 2005 at 9:24 PM
Here's my take: is the show more about "bling" than sound? Sure.

Does it still increase interest in car audio? Yes.

This can only be good for the industry.

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Posted By: 5150azn
Date Posted: May 03, 2005 at 10:42 AM
I don't know why everyone bashes on WCC and PMR. As a custom installer you need the mentality of "I can do anything"; and these guys are some of the best at doing so. Mad Mike told me himself that at this level you have to be over the top and give customers what they've never seen before, otherwise it's not truly custom. The genius and engineering that goes behind these projects are often overlooked because the some of the things aren't practical in an automobile. But who the heck needs a pounding system anyway?

And like I said before Unique is by no means a custom shop in my book! I did those kinds of installs when I worked for circuit city.

Unless you got a respirator on and your sanding your butt off, you get no respect from me!

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Posted By: Sweekster
Date Posted: May 03, 2005 at 11:57 AM
Really, if you think about it, this only affects the pimps out there. I mean, what have they got to look forward to now?

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Posted By: auex
Date Posted: May 03, 2005 at 12:34 PM
kfr01] wrote:

This can only be good for the industry.


Please tell me you don't believe this. Is it good for the industry when idiots walk in off of the streets wanting you to put a hair drier, waterfall, popcorn popper, dog washing station, or any other rediculous item into their car???

I am just kidding but the show is still stupid as ****.

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Posted By: Izzum88
Date Posted: May 03, 2005 at 1:23 PM

Sweekster wrote:

Really, if you think about it, this only affects the pimps out there. I mean, what have they got to look forward to now?

Good point sweekster, i think in the midst of the arguement, we forgot whos reputation is really getting hurt, pimps and their rides.





Posted By: kfr01
Date Posted: May 03, 2005 at 1:27 PM
auex: I agree. It is stupid and -most- of the things they do are stupid. I was referring to the general increase in interest towards car audio work.

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Posted By: joebobcletusjr
Date Posted: May 03, 2005 at 1:39 PM

It's kind of funny how heated things get whenever pimp my ride is brought up, it's like pimp my ride, "going mustang" and audiobahn are some of the most discussed topics here.

Anyway I didn't intend to get off topic with this, but PMR is doing one good thing by getting the car stereo industry to a whole new audience, however if we see a huge increase in irresponsible car stereo enthusiasts come out then we will suffer by new laws, or ordinances that will prevent us further from enjoying what we are passionate about.  They need to teach or at least mention "safe and legal or even considerate bumping" to these people that they install these "crazy loud systems" for (I quote that because they do sometimes take some very crappy subs and talk about them like their baskets are cast in gold).

I want a show that just focuses on techniques of good installers that are found all around the country, not those that are just putting an oxygen mask in a car because no one else has done it before.  We do all have to remember what gets ratings though, I am sure that a lot of people tune into that show to see what they are doing now.  I hate that show, but for some reason I still watch, so obviously they are doing something right somewhere, I am just not sure where.



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Posted By: Sweekster
Date Posted: May 03, 2005 at 2:51 PM
Lzzum98, I try to look at it from all angles. I'm not a pro installer but I do see the ridiculousness of it. I agree with KFR01 in that it brings more attention to the car audio world (which is good). The bad part is it makes people think the impractical (for example: a make up sink as a center console) is practical. I love custom cars and what WCC is about but they are doing a bit much for TV. Anyone else ever notice that they completely filling these people's cars with all of this equipment and not leaving a spare tire? I mean if this person can't afford the up keep of the car, do we really think they can afford AAA?

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Posted By: 5150azn
Date Posted: May 03, 2005 at 3:17 PM
I think a good show should be like "rides" on the discovery channel I think. It should dedicate a whole hour on how a car comes in bone stock straight from the dealership and then show how it's transformed and the time consuming steps it takes.

Anyways "Rides" is that show. I wish I could catch it more.

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Posted By: sinistar
Date Posted: May 04, 2005 at 12:23 PM

PMR will hopefully disappear next season, I can only hope. As said before, the things they do are ridiculous and not in a good way. A total waste of time I think on most of the installs. I also hate how they say "there's over 5000 Watts of power in this system" when they have a couple MTX amps that I know are 500W max.  I don't think there is much positive influence from the show at all.  You just end up with a bunch of people that think they know something about audio/video setups and what is good and bad quality setups. Most the speakers/amps they install are a dime a dozen. Like Audiobahn and others along the same lines. This is not quality stereo installation. Its eye candy and thats about it. 

as said before, I think it takes away from REAL custom installations that are thought out and use quality products that really throttle.  Like Eclipse, Diamond, Adire, RE, etc... you'll never see on the show because they wouldn't do a sponsorship. They get all the gear for free as long as they put the plug in for the manufacturer. I'm sure WCC can do actual good installations, but the show as a whole is garbage and cheesy as hell. I don't think their ideas for the most part are unique, more stupid than anything and not practical. I have watched Unique Whips as well and prefer it because it is a more realistic atmosphere but agree they need to focus more on the installs and showing the ins and outs after their done. Shows more of how busy and chaotic a shop gets when busy and the battles between employees which I can relate with in my environment.  Oh yeah, and Xzibit sucks all around, acting, rapping, whatever he sucks.





Posted By: Captanham
Date Posted: May 04, 2005 at 11:18 PM
i dunno, i think it's stupid, i mean.. haha, it's cool that people see it more, and it's almost like everyone now thinks they have to do something to their car, wich is fine by me, and the hair dryers or movie projectors,, things i wouldn't put in there if you paid me to have them.... just tasteless people,, i mean, have you seen the work on that show? they do a FG box, then staple vinyl to it, it looks like shhh, like everyone on there was plucked off the street and just shown a quick how to video... no one on that show knows shhh, but whatever, all the better when someone comes into a shop, and gets good PRACTICAL, custom set ups, why spend 20000 to microwave your sandwich on the road, when you can have a really cool ride instead?

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Posted By: losone
Date Posted: May 05, 2005 at 12:36 AM
They both suck, WCC has got to be one of the worst install shops thats blown up... and how many times can Unique install the same box & amp rack in a gm suv???  How bout spray painting the interior platic right on the car?  I really can't believe half the stuff I see on these shows. What a disgrace to the quality shops out there.




Posted By: Javelin3o4
Date Posted: May 05, 2005 at 3:10 AM

I like some of the stuff they fab up and just like to see all the crap they can cram into the car but some of the stuff is just stupid...here are a couple

1. Fireplace in the back of a blazer...(ok now where do i store my stuff)

2. TV under the car in the spare tire

3. TV is the door panels

4. Popcorn popper in center console

5. expresso machine in center console

6. ugly ass gold covertible roof

7. 3 flip down monitors w/ camera's for mirrors (either you are c**k eye'ed or a freek of nature with 3 sets of eyes)

8. bubble exhaust

9. pool table in the truck (yeah make the trick shot from inside the car through the back window)

10. TV's in the floor for the dogs

11. lotion dispenser in dash

12. sink in the center console...

just to name a few. The other thing that gets me is yeah all these cars look nice but drive like shhh, cause they still got that beat up 200K mile engine.

I personally like watching overhaul'n on Spike TV.





Posted By: 5150azn
Date Posted: May 05, 2005 at 10:51 AM
Captanham wrote:

no one on that show knows shhh, but whatever,


My friend you can't be more wrong.

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Posted By: Captanham
Date Posted: May 05, 2005 at 12:46 PM

how do you figure? anyone can order shhh off ebay and bolt it on at some weird angle, i've never seen anything on those shows that impresses me,,, probably the best guy on there is HEZ or whatever, that does the interior, he's the only HALF respectable guy in there,,,, they are all TASTELESS AND USELESS

and overhaulin kicks ASS



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Posted By: 5150azn
Date Posted: May 05, 2005 at 1:17 PM
Dude WCC wouldn't be where they are if they didn't know anything. If you've ever talked to any of them you know these guys are very knowlegable. When first moving to southern cal I heard alot about Mike from WCC and how he "knew everything". Believe me this guy is amazing. He can do everything.(and every so often he shows he can on a little known show called Pimp My Ride)

Thats the point I think you guys are missing. Anyone can install. I'm sure I could teach my mom how to. But how will your work stand out from the rest? Fishman brought us the gold fish and the water falls. Mike brought the karaoke machine, movie projector, popcorn machine, a sink, hot tub, drum set.

If you've worked on projects of PMR's scale then you know that it takes planning and know how to pull it off. And the guys at WCC pull it off week after week(not to mention they do things that have never been done before). For that I think they might maybe deserve some credit huh?

And you can't just judge them by their work on PMR. They've been around before all these hoopties. If you've seen they're work on Shaq's cars you'll know what I'm talking about.

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Posted By: Captanham
Date Posted: May 05, 2005 at 1:22 PM

i'm thinkin,,,, NO, nothing they have done is hard!     pop corn machine in the dash, REALLLY ******* complicated,                         not,,, you put an invertor on it, build a little FG to hold it and your done

mike is no genious,, he's just doing things that haven't been done before, BECAUSE THEY NEVER SHOULD HAVE BEEN DONE, it's all junk, if you know them so  well, tell them to start putting nice systems in these things, and put shhh in there that PEOPLE WILL USE, like tv's were you can actually see them,, like the spair tire thing,,, wtf, they put plexiglass to a tv under the car, i give that thing a month and it'll be soo ******* sandblasted that you couldn't see it, even if you did get down and lay on the ground to watch tv (sounds dumb to me),,

i don't mean for this to get heated,, but my opinion, this guy MIGHT know a lot about how to do stuff, i don't know,, but the things he does, are stupid, really really stupid, and i'd rather have a regular install, then going around looking like an idiot with an ironing board and dishwasher in the back of my yukon



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Posted By: 5150azn
Date Posted: May 05, 2005 at 1:44 PM
Yeah dude I honestly don't really care and I'm not taking any offense to anything so it's all good. This is a good topic.

But I think these guys want the car to be more show than a regular beater thats how you end up with (admitingly)useless crap.

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Posted By: speedwayaudio1
Date Posted: May 05, 2005 at 2:26 PM
wwc puts all that dumb *** **** in those cars is because mtv wants them too. If you were to go to there shop for some custom work, I'm sure they would not install a washer and dryer/ toaster oven combo.

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Posted By: speedwayaudio1
Date Posted: May 05, 2005 at 2:32 PM
oh yeah. MTV is paying them to do this ****, so they do this stupid stuff. If MTV asked me to install a soda machine and a microwave. I would be happy to. you can't get any better advertisment then to be on mtv. And I bet there checks don't bounce.

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Posted By: 5150azn
Date Posted: May 05, 2005 at 2:44 PM
lol suprisingly they do bounce

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Posted By: speedwayaudio1
Date Posted: May 05, 2005 at 2:48 PM
5150azn wrote:

lol suprisingly they do bounce
did you get a bad check from mtv?

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Posted By: Drewt
Date Posted: May 05, 2005 at 5:48 PM
how about this. if you don't like the show and think it's crap, don't watch it.

Yes, some of the things they do are really dumb, but i do like some of them. But the audio seutps in them are dissapointing...

-Drew




Posted By: 5150azn
Date Posted: May 05, 2005 at 6:13 PM
speedwayaudio1 wrote:

5150azn wrote:

lol suprisingly they do bounce
did you get a bad check from mtv?

Oh no sorry I miss read your post. I'd like to get paid by MTV too.

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Posted By: Benji999
Date Posted: May 05, 2005 at 6:16 PM
I can understand why they do all this, I would too if MTV was paying me out the *** to install a pinball machine in the back seat of someone's '86 volvo. I just can't stand all this Audiobahn stuff that seems to be flooding the streets. No joke, where I live there is 1 shop that sells quality stuff everything else is audiobahn, or one of they're affiliates. I think that aspect of the show misleads people as to what quality stereo products are.




Posted By: Captanham
Date Posted: May 05, 2005 at 8:43 PM
see, that's my big problem with the show, a lot of the stuff they do, while i think it's dumb, i don't care about,, because if someone's into that, or they want it, then whatever... BUT, the systems usually really suck, and they only do things that you can see from far away... if they did a better job on some of the comon stuff, like a good system, and maybe did some motor work, they would have a better show, pinball machines and all

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Posted By: auex
Date Posted: May 05, 2005 at 10:20 PM
Drewt] wrote:

how about this. if you don't like the show and think it's crap, don't watch it.


I try not to watch it, damn girlfriend. At anyrate, how does not watching it affect the outcome when idiots come in wanting the 5000w audiobahn amps??? I am still affected by the dumb show.

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Posted By: Uniqueauto
Date Posted: May 06, 2005 at 12:08 AM
All I hear in the shop now is "I SAW PIMP MY RIDE LAST NIGHT CAN YOU DO THIS"?  And the bums know they don't have any type of custom money. It's really starting to get to me.

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Posted By: blackshuck
Date Posted: May 06, 2005 at 12:31 AM

When they ask you to this stuff, tell them it's specialty work, that's $840 an hour for labour. They'll leave. And yeah, most of the show is stupid, but I've heard REAL good things about WCCs work...plus, week after week they pump all that out....they're on a real short time frame I've heard.





Posted By: speedwayaudio1
Date Posted: May 06, 2005 at 4:06 AM
I don't like audiobahn stuff myself, BUT If I can make some money on it I'll sell the crap out of it. And if I got to sell it on MTV I'd realy sell the crap out of it. Money is money is money, and that's the name of the game.

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Posted By: BoominRolla
Date Posted: May 06, 2005 at 6:58 PM

what about when your installs are compared to pimp my ride? or is that just me? I mean if you ever go to any car show and a kid has decided to take a few weeks and make a trunk mold in his garage and slap some speakers and a screen in there, get it pained and show it off... then the people all say hey thats like the stuff from pimp my ride! thats gonna get annoying I bet already! I'd like to see how many people they have working on the car at any one given time... Where i'm at theres NO INSTALLATION "TEAM" just me... and another guy if I get burried... but hardly ever do we "team" up on anything... cause i'm told if we do that we have to charge twice the labor... which I don't get, but makes sence in a way... Over all I guess I like the show seeing what there gonna do next... granted most of the installs are out of control... but with an unlimited budget more than likely there getting huge amounts of promotion for what their capable of doing... I'd like to see them say things a bit more realistic and do some more custom audio installs but thats not what the shows title is... if it was "make my trunk slam with bass and my ears bleed from volume" then i'm sure they would have better systems... but the shows more about "my rides got what yours don't"

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Posted By: Izzum88
Date Posted: May 07, 2005 at 2:21 PM
Back to whether the installers at WCC know anything or not, it isnt that they dont know anything. They have to dumb it down for the people that are watching it so they can get ratings. The people most entertained by the show have no knowledge of car audio. But when they hear, "thats over 5000 watts of power in your car " they know that its alot of power so it must be good. I bet you if one of the WCC guys were to post on this site they would be happy about the popularity they are getting but disapointed about how other custom installers are losing respect for them.




Posted By: 5150azn
Date Posted: May 08, 2005 at 11:21 AM
WCC is given around 25k per car and I think 4-6 weeks to finish. But alot of the stuff comes from sponsers like all the audiobahn and directed stuff. And notice the banners in the background.(If you look closley my company's banner is back there!)

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Posted By: phatx96xaccord
Date Posted: July 05, 2005 at 1:10 PM

i wish i had a shoe rack in the back of my car.lol.  i like watching the show, and also  to see what stuff they pull off that is whack.  lots of installs are pointless but interesting.  I think they are probably told to do imaginable installs for some odd reason hoping for mtv viewer ratings to increase. 

Wcc doesnt necisarrily do bad work, maybe pimp my ride is a downfall for them, but i have seen some whips they have done on "rides".  Like lawyer milloy's , i think h2 hummer it was,  that was nice.  

Last night i seen them do a 2003 corolla, actually didnt look too bad,  one week i seen them install some jensen car audio stuff,  i felt bad for that person to get that crap.

Another thing, i like to see these peoples rides in about 2-3 years, there cars looked like crap before, becuase most of them let the cars get that way.  I doubt they stay lookin good, they probably dont maintain very well, as u can see with the car before its "tricked"



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Posted By: 5150azn
Date Posted: July 05, 2005 at 1:33 PM
5150azn wrote:

speedwayaudio1 wrote:

5150azn wrote:

lol suprisingly they do bounce
did you get a bad check from mtv?

Oh no sorry I miss read your post. I'd like to get paid by MTV too.


Ok let me try again... MTV's checks don't bounce they just take forever to pay you.

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Posted By: Blowntweeters
Date Posted: July 05, 2005 at 2:29 PM
this is what i think most of the people that have there cars on the show treated their cars like S*** in the first place and thats one thing i cant stand i take good care of my car and people that dont should be driving busted up P.O.S and i think the guys at WCC know what there doing look at the other cars you see in the backround as far as the audio stuff most of it sucks i have seen one set up on the show that i like somewhat with out those dumb spining grills and the capice with the 9 MTX amps then saying that is 9000 watts  going into 3 MTX 10"s ha ha    i really like overhauln most of the people that have there cars on that show are trying to do somthing with there cars and just don't have the means do get it done

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Posted By: Steven Kephart
Date Posted: July 05, 2005 at 2:38 PM

My take on this:

I do enjoy seeing the crazy stuff they do on the show.  However I believe it is a huge let down that they don't show much on HOW they do it.  I really enjoy fabrication, and enjoy watching someone's unique technique to pull something off.  This might give me ideas to try in the future.  I personally don't think it is as easy as taking  a blender and putting some fiberglass around it.  From experience, there are things that you have to think through to pull it off that would not be obvious.  And you have to admire their creativity and skill with the basics of install (fiberglass, paint, etc.) 

The show is over the top in many ways, but that is just show business.  The same is true with Monster Garage or American Choppers.  Both of those shows are worth watching for the fabrication they do IMO.  I can tune out all the other garbage they put in there.

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Posted By: 5150azn
Date Posted: July 21, 2005 at 11:34 AM
Blowntweeters wrote:

this is what i think most of the people that have there cars on the show treated their cars like S*** in the first place and thats one thing i cant stand i take good care of my car and people that dont should be driving busted up P.O.S and i think the guys at WCC know what there doing look at the other cars you see in the backround as far as the audio stuff most of it sucks i have seen one set up on the show that i like somewhat with out those dumb spining grills and the capice with the 9 MTX amps then saying that is 9000 watts  going into 3 MTX 10"s ha ha    i really like overhauln most of the people that have there cars on that show are trying to do somthing with there cars and just don't have the means do get it done


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Posted By: speedwayaudio1
Date Posted: July 21, 2005 at 3:25 PM
You know guys my little 9 year old nephew came up to me the other day saying " I'm gonna be a pimp"." I'm gonna have a car just like on tv." That made me think, do people know what a "pimp" is. A pimp is someone who makes young girls and boys to have sex with people then they keep the money too. Is that something that I want my nephew or your kids to grow up to be?I told him what a pimp was, and that I didn't want to hear him say "I'm gonna be a pimp" ever again. I told him that he could have a cool car when he got big, but that I'm not gonna "pimp it" out for him. If I'm still in the bizz I'll put a system in for him, but not  "pimp" it. Now I'm not trying to get on a "high horse" here, but I think MTV should change the name of the show so young kids don't think that "pimpin" is something to be proud of. I know in some of my other posts in this topic I say that "money is money" and all that, but thats before I saw the big picture.

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Posted By: fuseblower
Date Posted: July 21, 2005 at 3:48 PM

You hit the nail on the Head big Dave.

My friend just got on his Nephew for saying the same thing about being a pimp.  However, he is older but it's still the same concept.  They hear that word and thinks, man it's cool to be a pimp.  Then they go around thinking that they are a pimp and calling themselves a pimp and don't have a clue as to what the word means.





Posted By: bullman96
Date Posted: July 21, 2005 at 5:03 PM
that is the point, wcc are a bunch of sellouts. i would never want any dirty money from mtv who is poisoning our youth by making stupidity considered cool and morals uncool. sadly i have had to see the show because many of my friends watch it, and i like to see any idea, no matter what it is. the interior's fabrication is terrible(rough edges everywhere. would love to see one of the cars close up), the exterior is done terribly with body kits that just dont look right. all the tv monitors are flimsy when attached, especially the tablet pc. christ at least install a carputer. "mad mike" can only install out of the box crap. shell, i doubt those guys do any work on wcc's real cars. i mean christ, who in their right mind would hire the accessory(crap) guy. the guy they brought on later on who does the paint jobs isnt all that bad, although the paint jobs are. enough venting, just another thing the mass media is screwing up to get even more rich.

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Posted By: 5150azn
Date Posted: July 21, 2005 at 5:49 PM
bullman96 wrote:

that is the point, wcc are a bunch of sellouts. i would never want any dirty money from mtv who is poisoning our youth by making stupidity considered cool and morals uncool. sadly i have had to see the show because many of my friends watch it, and i like to see any idea, no matter what it is. the interior's fabrication is terrible(rough edges everywhere. would love to see one of the cars close up), the exterior is done terribly with body kits that just dont look right. all the tv monitors are flimsy when attached, especially the tablet pc. christ at least install a carputer. "mad mike" can only install out of the box crap. shell, i doubt those guys do any work on wcc's real cars. i mean christ, who in their right mind would hire the accessory(crap) guy. the guy they brought on later on who does the paint jobs isnt all that bad, although the paint jobs are. enough venting, just another thing the mass media is screwing up to get even more rich.


The 2 posts before this one were awesome posts that brought up a great point. But this post right here is everything short of ignorant. So you wouldn't take "dirty money"? lol And I suppose your the best installer in the world.

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Posted By: bullman96
Date Posted: July 21, 2005 at 6:09 PM
im an ok installer, but no matter how poor i was and how sh**ty of an installer i was, i would never sell out our youth.

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Pioneer PEH-9660mp
Mb Quart PCE-216 biamped
JL 12W6v2
Sony XM-4026 amp for tweeters
Kenwood KAC-7251 amp for mids
JL-4100 amp for sub




Posted By: auex
Date Posted: July 21, 2005 at 7:33 PM
The show is stupid, the people are stupid, the cars are stupid.

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