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System That Burped Over 160 dB? Real or BS?

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Topic: System That Burped Over 160 dB? Real or BS?

Posted By: dwarren
Subject: System That Burped Over 160 dB? Real or BS?
Date Posted: June 03, 2005 at 1:55 AM

Earlier this evening at the gym I got into a conversation with fellow who works at a local shop. He eventually ended up going off about a system that burped over 160 dB.

His setup consisted of three Fosgate p2's (or what ever the "best" ones are) in a 3 cu. ft. box with a "1 cu. ft." port. The subs were being powered by a Fosgate 3000bd. His electrical system consisted of a dual alternator setup, three batteries and a 100 farad cap or caps or some bs. He even goes so far to say that the Lincoln Gator was not reinforced.

Is he full of it or what? I wanna hear from you die hard spl junkies as I have minimal knwoledge in the spl arena. Shouldn't a wall with multiple amps be more likely to be in the 160 range?



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Posted By: speedwayaudio1
Date Posted: June 03, 2005 at 4:45 AM

I think he's full of you know what. At 160db his wind screen would blow out with out reinforcement. amoung other things.



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Posted By: soundmasta
Date Posted: June 03, 2005 at 7:42 AM
maybe on an old mic. a very easy old mic.




Posted By: soundmasta
Date Posted: June 03, 2005 at 7:42 AM
but no.




Posted By: dwarren
Date Posted: June 03, 2005 at 12:20 PM
That was one of my questions to him, what kind of mic?

His response was, "whatever mic was at the shop"

It is unbelievable that people lie about stuff like this, he is supposed to be representing a local shop and putting out a good image for them, not slander about bs stories.

oh and I forgot to mention that according to him, Fosgate amps use the "larger 24 something MOSFET chips, where everyone else uses the smaller ones, thus the amps put out much more power..."

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Posted By: auex
Date Posted: June 03, 2005 at 3:54 PM
He is full of shhh. Anyone who measures ports in cubic feet is a moron.

Is it possible, yes. If he was the installer who did it he should know a whole hell of alot more about the install and would know better then to measure a port with cubic feet.

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Posted By: dwarren
Date Posted: June 03, 2005 at 4:11 PM
well he claimed an ex-architect designed the box. At this point I think the next time I run into him, I am gonna call him on it.

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Posted By: auex
Date Posted: June 03, 2005 at 6:53 PM
Call him on the architect as well. While he would desing a good structural box, I would think an EE would be able to design a better sounding or louder box.

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Certified Security Specialist
Always check info with a digital multimeter.
I promise to be good.
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Posted By: forbidden
Date Posted: June 03, 2005 at 8:29 PM

hahahaha.....bwaahahahahaha....hahahaha....architect......hahahaha...."my box was designed by an Architect".... your point there Mr. Spillypants....hahaha

I needed a good laugh, thanks guys.



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Posted By: jeffchilcott
Date Posted: June 07, 2005 at 4:57 AM
wow.    I love it when people tend to run off thier mouth about how loud thier system is, and that they hit a 186db at the show they went to.   It just makes me laugh, I normally invite them to come to our next car audio show, or feel free to come along with us to our next show we travel to.    
I have had a few travel with us, and when they get there they always seem to be amazed at the cars hitting 140-150db and say it the loudest thing they have ever heard.....
All scores I talk about are on the Term lab or B&K meter's

It just makes me wonder what they would do, if they were given the chance to see the vehicles I do at world Finals every year for USACi    The ones where a single burm will make a girls hair stand on end while outside the vehicle,    The cars and trucks that no one gets into without a huge airport traffic director style earmuff's.

Some times you never know with these darn kids now a days, granted Im 23 but I have been forced to learn alot.

Next thing you Know Super Blue's will be coming back

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2007 World Record
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Posted By: speedwayaudio1
Date Posted: June 08, 2005 at 12:32 PM

23 i have socks older than that. lol



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Big Dave




Posted By: auex
Date Posted: June 08, 2005 at 1:06 PM
speedwayaudio1 wrote:

23 i have socks older than that. lol




Yeah... Huh? Damn your old.

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I promise to be good.
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Posted By: speedwayaudio1
Date Posted: June 08, 2005 at 10:09 PM
Yes, I'm old.

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Big Dave




Posted By: dwarren
Date Posted: June 09, 2005 at 12:17 AM
oh boy! an age competition now, no longer spl. damn old timers I just got from Florida no more senior citizens

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Posted By: stevdart
Date Posted: June 11, 2005 at 9:34 PM
I love it when "the Boyz" start talking street sh!t about their systems like they know wtf they're talking about, and this old guy starts talking like we do here.  Their eyes get wide and they say uh what?  Normally they'll start peppering me with questions, which is cool.  I'll point out some presentation issues too...I'm not shy.  For the most part, even the guys who are big talkers REALLY want to know what they're talking about.  They just usually have complete newbie morons to brag to.




Posted By: ivant2
Date Posted: June 11, 2005 at 11:49 PM
Well gang ive been away from the world of SPL for a while what is the world burp record now. I remeber seeing the Memphis van pull out 174.5 bout 4 yrs back. As far as that one guy using 3 Rockfords subs and a 3000bd amp running off 3 batteries and dual alternators. Not likely. When i last competed with 2 (12's) i used a 1000 watt amp and had the subs at 2 ohms each and had to use 5 red top batteries to power the thing along with the car runnning and i could only make a whimper of 145.7. I would say have that guy go to spring break nationals where the big dogs play. By the way you dont have to reinforce a winshiled with anything if you replace the glass with temper glass. However if i had something that rocked over 165 db i would take out all glass and seal that bad boy shut as one big box to tow to the line.

~mike





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