We Market Knowledge

any of the full time pros like myself on this forum know that essentially what we do on a daily basis is market knowledge.....

so here's a proposal..... if you get good, helpful, accurate advice from someone on here that really simplifies what you are trying to do..... you should donate a buck.... if the advice is incorrect or erroneous, the advice giver should have to donate a buck......

any thoughts??

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Kevin Gerry
Certified Electronics Technician
MECP First Class Installer

Owner/Installer
Classic Car Audio
since 1979

Um, I"m thinking no on this one.

It's a good idea, but that kind of defeats the purpose of internet forums. Which is to have the FREE exchange of information

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I just donated some money, now you want more, why don't you just give out your home adress so I can mail it to you!   

Good idea, just don't think people will follow through on something like this, or they will argue that the info wasn't that great.

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It's a good idea, but that kind of defeats the purpose of internet forums. Which is to have the FREE exchange of information[/QUOTE]

nothing in life is FREE you pay one way or another free delivery is'ts either marked up ,you tip the delivery boy etc.......

you got my donation $10.00

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polk audio 6 1/2 frontdoor w/alpine center speaker
polk audio 6 1/2 rear w/8"polk sub
2-12" alpine X type sub
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YEah, but do you really think people will come here for info if it's kind of expected that they'll pay for it?

I personally would go check out a book at the library to get the info before paying someone else for the same info.

Note that I share ALL of the information that I have acquired over the years for FREE. I could easily open up a shop and charge an arm and a leg for simple advise, but I don't. There's no reason to. There are so many other places that people can get the info for FREE!

Lets please keep it that way. I personally think that it's a little selfish to be even asking for money. If that's the case, then why did you even give advise in the first place?

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it's only a donation you still have to pay for a library card .

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polk audio 6 1/2 frontdoor w/alpine center speaker
polk audio 6 1/2 rear w/8"polk sub
2-12" alpine X type sub
2-alpine mdr-1005 amps

I don't have to pay for a library card. Well at least not directly. Of course taxes pay for that stuff...

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Don't listen to poorman, all he does is inspire arguements. Since he is so poor I'll kick in 10 for him and 10 from me. And since I donated 10 for you, stay out of this thread and any other threads like this from now on.

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Hell, I'll drop 10 too. I think its a great idea, but if I gave a dollar for every peice of info gained from this site, then how would I ever buy any equipment?

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Well said, auex.  And the great thing about Paypal is that you can donate just one buck and it costs you no more than one buck.  I donated again a few weeks ago (my wife's name if you're looking) and it was just for the sake of helping to keep one of the internet's great forum sites alive and kicking.  It was only twenty bucks but it was tip money and so I thought  "If I can get a tip, I can GIVE a tip".  That came not long after I read that  the12volt had to consistently kick in on the monthly web expenses to keep this site going.  It's not enough to contribute with dialogue (and a poster with a question contributes just as highly as a poster with a response), we have to continually feed this forum with ideas like kgerry did in this thread.  The consistent thing about this forum's readership is that it is constantly changing.

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I kick in $10.00 if Auex will drop his Ipod bashing for a week. Not that I care, but I think it will kill him to do it.

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12V_REP wrote:

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I kick in $10.00 if Auex will drop his Ipod bashing for a week. Not that I care, but I think it will kill him to do it.

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Change effective until June 20, 2005. IPODs are soo cool!!! Uhhh, I feel so dirty.

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LOL!!! I made the donation.

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oops. sorry. I didn't realize that K was talking about donating to the12volt. I thought he meant to the individual person that provides the information.

Just wondering: Does the12volt want/need more sponsors?

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I'm all in favor of sponsors, but keep the pop-ups OUT! OK? (This includes pop-UNDERS!!!)

I also donated my $10.00 - Twice. It was worth it.

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It all reminds me of something that Molière once said to Guy de Maupassant at a café in Vienna: "That's nice. You should write it down."

I'm in favor of stickying this subject for awhile.  I'd like to see the results.  There are one or two info threads that could be replaced on the first page...

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Build the box so that it performs well in the worst case scenario and, in return, it will reward you at all times.

i hope y'all realized i was joking....  i would never refer to myself as a "pro"....unless we are talking beer consumption....the only people i figured would have a problem with this whole premise were the "advice givers".... you know, the " i've installed lots of stuff for my sisters neighbours cousins uncle "

could you imagine if everytime you gave an uneducated opinion it cost you a buck??    forums like this wouldnt even need advertisers.....

actually i expected far more outrage from the "know it alls".....lol              hey it was 5:30 on a Friday afternoon and after filtering thru some of the silly responses i had read i thought...hhhmmm "what if"

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Kevin Gerry
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MECP First Class Installer

Owner/Installer
Classic Car Audio
since 1979

The "silly responses" as you so politely put it always crank up this time of year all across the web.  School's out, you know.

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being an "old geezer" i dont follow the school trends.... it was just one of those "if i had a buck for every dumb answer" things.... dont get me wrong... i encourage everyone the forum has helped to chip in a buck if they can.....

but could you imagine if everytime someone posted an unsubstantiated, uninformed opinion a dollar was donated to the forum??   wow!!!

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Kevin Gerry
Certified Electronics Technician
MECP First Class Installer

Owner/Installer
Classic Car Audio
since 1979

dwarren wrote:

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I just donated some money, now you want more, why don't you just give out your home adress so I can mail it to you!    ....

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jussam wrote:

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...you got my donation $10.00

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auex]. wrote:

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.I'll kick in 10 for him and 10 from me. And since I donated 10 for you...

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oonikfraleyoo wrote:

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Hell, I'll drop 10 too. I think its a great idea, but if I gave a dollar for every peice of info gained from this site, then how would I ever buy any equipment?

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stevdart wrote:

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...I donated again a few weeks ago ....

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Thanks for the donations guys!  They are much appreciated :) Your names have been added to the list.

kgerry wrote:

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any of the full time pros like myself on this forum know that essentially what we do on a daily basis is market knowledge.....

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kgerry, while I appreciate your intent by creating this topic, I don't want any member to feel obligated to make a donation because of a discussion on the topic or to think that we are hustling donations. If anyone does make a donation, they should do so only because they found this site to be of some value and for no other reason.

Poormanq45 wrote:

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...It's a good idea, but that kind of defeats the purpose of internet forums. Which is to have the FREE exchange of information

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My intention has always been to provide the information we share on this site free of charge and we will continue to provide it free of charge.

auex][ wrote:

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UOTE=12V_REP] I kick in $10.00 if Auex will drop his Ipod bashing for a week. Not that I care, but I think it will kill him to do it.

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Change effective until June 20, 2005. IPODs are soo cool!!! Uhhh, I feel so dirty.[/QUOTE] lol@auex and 12v_rep ;) I can feel the love :D

Poormanq45 wrote:

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...Just wondering: Does the12volt want/need more sponsors?

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 Yes, we always want/need more sponsors.

haemphyst wrote:

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I'm all in favor of sponsors, but keep the pop-ups OUT! OK? (This includes pop-UNDERS!!!) ..

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No, there will never be any pop-up or pop-under ads.

With the sponsors and new ads we now have in place along with the donations we receive, I'm happy to say this site should begin covering it's monthly operating expenses by the end of this month and eventually allow me to make improvements and add more features.

Thanks for all the financial support you and many others have given and for the valuable information you've shared in these forums. Without many of you, this site wouldn't be the same ...Cheers!

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I threw down $50 last week, this place saved me that much in install time last week alone.

This guy is also in for a donation that is long overdue. Too bad he doesn't know wtf he is talking about and is too busy to help people these days. I am down for a minimum of $100.00 CDN. Come on pro's, buck up time..... up the ante..... beat my donation.....

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Top Secret, I can tell you but then my wife will kill me.

Is this site based in Canada? Not that I care at all....just wondering if I should end my posts in "eh"?



btw....I ditched my paypal acct 3 years ago - do you have an address to send $$$ to?

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Subtlety is EVERYTHING.

forbidden, you swim in money.  That's not hardly a fair proposition!  (...you swim in money because the water is always ICE!...)

kgerry, you snookered me on this one.  But I still think it's a good fund-raiser project.  Bono is doing it for the starving children in Africa, you know.

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Build the box so that it performs well in the worst case scenario and, in return, it will reward you at all times.

forbidden wrote:

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This guy is also in for a donation that is long overdue. Too bad he doesn't know wtf he is talking about and is too busy to help people these days. I am down for a minimum of $100.00 CDN. Come on pro's, buck up time..... up the ante..... beat my donation.....

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Hey, weren't you the one who said you where busy raking in the bucks? Just kidding.
At anyrate back to the top!

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if i didn't jsut spen $500 on carPC stuff ... i'd be willing to but some cash in.

I have an Idea, I'll pack my lunch for work today and send the money that I would spen ... well I'll round up to Ten

$10 from me =)

oops?

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Where have I been while all this has been happening ? I didn't even remember seeing this post. Guess some of us actaully work around here

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Hiding?

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Damn how did this get dug back up?

I just donated $20 to help out any way possible.

Donate to the 12volt.com

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Thanks auex, we sincerely appreciate it :)

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