Where to find OEM speakers?

Thank you all for your input, it is appreciated.  This website is awesome!!

Evanc:  Assuming that those speakers are installed in more than one Isuzu, I might find some there but most of the time the weather has already trashed them.  And if they were only installed in a 1997 Trooper then they would also be 8 years old as well. 

Boardinburn: I already have installed aftermarket an it does not sound anything close to the original sound.  I could not find any 15 watt 6.5" midrange aftermarket speakers unless I went with a component set but the wattage started at around 50 or 60 watts and went up.  The sound system in the car was designed with 15 watt speakers, not 50watt speakers, thus the poor sound quality.  I would have to add an amp to get the sound up and my wife is not into that, I am, but she's not and its her car. 

Velocity Motors: What do you mean?  Do you have a set that would work?

Godblessdremil:  That is a great idea, I didn't know that.  I might give that a try.

Cheers

bbusbee wrote:

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 I already have installed aftermarket an it does not sound anything close to the original sound.  I could not find any 15 watt 6.5" midrange aftermarket speakers unless I went with a component set but the wattage started at around 50 or 60 watts and went up.  The sound system in the car was designed with 15 watt speakers, not 50watt speakers, thus the poor sound quality.  I would have to add an amp to get the sound up and my wife is not into that, I am, but she's not and its her car. 

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The problem is not the wattage ratings, that has nothing to do with anything.  The difference you are hearing is because aftermarket speakers are far more accurate and less sensitive than most OEM speakers, but many car manufacturers custom EQ systems to compensate for the shortcomings of the cheap speakers they use.  The "problem," if you want to call it that, is the factory head unit in your vehicle.  And by the way, the speakers in the vehicle are most likely not "mids," but full-range speakers.

Returning the car to stock sound system is the cheapest solution if that is what you want to do.  I agree with the above suggestions as far as finding replacements, and also recomend you check out www.partsexpress.com as they often have OEM speakers.  Check in their "buyouts" section.  You can also purchase new OEM speakers from any dealer, but expect to pay an outlandish price like $100 for them.

Thanks DYohn

The factory speakers that I am speaking of are not full range speakers, they have a single cone with the tweeter mounted higher in the door panel, they are actually a component set but all I'm shopping for is the woofer part of the set, if that's possible.  I thought that finding a replacement woofer would be much cheaper and easier than replacing the HU or the whole speaker set but so far I have had no luck.  My wife and I really liked the sound of the system and don't want to spend any money on it because I have spent a fortune on my own system in my Rodeo.

I need to make some calls to these aftermarket install shops.

Come on DYohn, I know what I'm looking at and I know whether it has a tweeter or anything else.  Yes the tweeters have a cross over built into them but I did not see one for the woofers.  The reason why I'm calling them woofers is because there are no other "woofers" or "mids" in the car, there is a set of 4" speakers in the back and that's it.  So the bass has to come from these two speakers up front that I have replaced. 

Assuming that there may be another crossover in the system somewhere is to assume that I have some bass speakers someplace, not so.  The idea of another crossover filtering out the lows going to the "mids" makes sense except for the fact that there are no other speakers anywhere.  This is why I don't think there are any more crossovers, which is why I thought that a more powerful speaker would be counter productive because of the low wattage output of the HU.  Is it not true that sound is caused by the cone moving and the more dramatic the movement of the cone the more bass that you hear with respect to the capability of the speaker?  I am assuming that higher wattage speakers have less movement at low wattages because they were built to handle more power.  Thus the reason why those aftermarket 60 watt minimum speakers don't create the bass response that the original 15 watt speakers did, less movement. 

DYohn, I have read many of your posts over this last couple of years and I have to give you the respect you deserve.  It ain't easy communicating through this medium.  Please let me know if I'm way off bass.  (No pun intended it just came out that way.)

Cheers

BBusbee

DYohn,

I checked out the speakers on the link you posted, are you telling me that the picture shown there is a full range speaker?  Is that want you meant by the tweeter being layered in? 

But if there were a crossover in the HU or under the dash limiting the signal to the "woofer" then shouldn't there be another real woofer someplace for the lows?  Or would the crossover be used primarily to filter out the lowest notes going to the "woofer" to prevent damage? 

And by the way, I am going to try out those speakers at the website.

This is not meant to be offensive, just an inquiry. Do you entirely understand what a crossover does? Because it sounds like you are confusing it with a capacitor that blocks low tones(bass blocker). I could be misreading some of this, but it looks like the confusion I'm seeing here...

bbusbee wrote:

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But if there were a crossover in the HU or under the dash limiting the signal to the "woofer" then shouldn't there be another real woofer someplace for the lows?  Or would the crossover be used primarily to filter out the lowest notes going to the "woofer" to prevent damage? 

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No, there does not need to be another speaker.

Oh, and Master A a "bass blocker" is a crossover.  Most bass-blockers and the capacitors used as HP filters for tweeters in a coaxial are 6db/octave (first order) crossovers.  Some are 2nd order (12db/oct.)

Yes your right, he does know his stuff, but that doesn't change the fact that I would be sleeping on the couch if I spent money on audio equipment where it's not wanted.  My wife priorities are different just as my priorities are different than hers and we have to repect that.  It's keeps the piece in the house.  Amen? 

DYohn,

Thanks for the articulate response to Master A, I was hoping you would address his concern because I don't have the audio experience to respond to him.

Cheers

Try going to an auto-parts store i just went to one to pick up an kit after we ran out and i saw that they were selling replacement speakers but not as good as a deal like those .75 ones.