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Topic: looking for 2 subs to hit Hard

Posted By: oxygen65
Subject: looking for 2 subs to hit Hard
Date Posted: August 19, 2005 at 12:59 AM

im looking at buying 2 neew subs and im looking for some big bass out of it, i mean i was some crazy spl numbers and i was lookin at gettin 2 12v6v2's but i dont kno if there is anything better than that out there, i was also wondering if  1 13w7 will hit harder than 2 of most other subs and how that would compair to 2 12 w6v2's



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Posted By: Izzum88
Date Posted: August 19, 2005 at 2:21 AM
ssshh man i know what u need to buy its called These Dual 12 inch they provide tight bass and a tricked-out look, these dual subs in a box handle up to 1,100 watts peak power for a driving beat, while blue illumination lights up your ride.




Posted By: speedwayaudio1
Date Posted: August 19, 2005 at 4:15 AM

Ox has a real question and should be able to ask it without some jerk messing with him. I hope the 12volt kicks you out. Ox how about 2 13w7's and a JL 1000.1 amp. can't go wrong with JL.  And by the way we are not all jerks on this forum.posted_image



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Posted By: Blowntweeters
Date Posted: August 19, 2005 at 10:55 PM
i would suggest 2 12" soundstream SPLX or 15" s

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Posted By: supradude
Date Posted: August 20, 2005 at 6:50 AM
What kind of comment is that, iwannasexuup? You won't be around here long with remarks like that.

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Posted By: dc60531
Date Posted: August 20, 2005 at 8:34 AM
I dont know about everyone else but these two names joined on the same day. One hase 2 post and the other has 1 post. could be a alter. Smells fishy




Posted By: speedwayaudio1
Date Posted: August 20, 2005 at 11:56 AM
Izzum88 is only 10 years old his profile says but he acts like he's 5. and the other guy or maybe he's the same guy is just a butthole. And I'm being nice about that.posted_image

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Big Dave




Posted By: Izzum88
Date Posted: August 20, 2005 at 12:33 PM
Sry won't happen again.




Posted By: Izzum88
Date Posted: August 20, 2005 at 12:34 PM
Sry for a double post , My profile is wrong i am actually 17




Posted By: speedwayaudio1
Date Posted: August 20, 2005 at 12:52 PM
Hey, we joke around alot ,but this is a serius site for all of us who love car audio. We only ask that you respect everyone. And everyone is welcome if they behave themselves.posted_image

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Big Dave




Posted By: forbidden
Date Posted: August 20, 2005 at 12:53 PM

Way not cool dude. Keep it clean from here on in please. Oxygen bud, need more info. If you have a regular cab truck we can't really suggest subs that are 12" deep. So what is the vehicle, what amp do you have, what about the box (premade or a new custom box), ready to spend some good cake on wire, a pure SPL monster or something that you can actually listen to that still plays loud as well? So lots of questions that need answers before the other people on the site can give you the guidance that you need.



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Posted By: oxygen65
Date Posted: August 24, 2005 at 12:37 AM
alright well i have a blazer and i just want some insane bass that is gonna make people get in my car and have to get out becuse it is so loud, as far as an amp i was gonna go with a jl amp unless someone else told me somethin diffrent like an amp that would work better with the subs, for a box i would make one or have one made to the specs of the subs so they would hit the hardest, wires arnt a problem, but basically i want somethin that is gonna POUND.




Posted By: oxygen65
Date Posted: August 24, 2005 at 12:39 AM
oh yea and by the way whoever those people are they are just idiots and dont have any idea what they are talking about becuse they just come out of the blue and say somethin like "hes a faggot" or telling me to get some subs from best buy, i hate that kinda crap!




Posted By: boardinbum
Date Posted: August 24, 2005 at 6:17 AM
If you're willing to put out the money, any sub or amp JL makes is great. However, just to save you a little cash, I think you'd be just as happy with some 12w3v2's.




Posted By: boardinbum
Date Posted: August 24, 2005 at 6:23 AM
However, if you just want something that'll "POUND" and make you feel like you just got hit in the chest when the bass line drops, I'd definitely recommend going with a different company. JL makes great products, but they're more about sound quality [and are very expensive]. You could get a different set of subs that'll pound your mirror right off your windshield and still sound good from a different company for a much more reasonable price.




Posted By: sedate
Date Posted: August 24, 2005 at 7:39 AM
Yea I'm putting my freakin w6 out to pasture this week. That thing never was very loud.

Cost me $450 too... prolly the worst car-stereo investment I've ever made. A truly overrated, underpreforming speaker. It was fairly clean.. I'll give it that.

Now, for the price of two 12w6's you ought be able to grab two subs AND a nice amp to run 'em... although.. to be totally honest, my personal taste in woofers runs a little funny... so I'll leave those for others..

I will tell ya one more thing though.. if you're in a Blazer, you've got space.. and you say...

oxygen65 wrote:

i have a blazer and i just want some insane bass that is gonna make people get in my car and have to get out becuse it is so loud


Okay, so try 3x10's. That'd be forcefully loud and not much more of an investment.

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Posted By: sedate
Date Posted: August 24, 2005 at 8:31 AM
Hmm...

oxygen65 I just re-read your posts...

If you *really* want monster bass, mate a JL1000/1 to 3 4-ohm DVC 10's. Either the w3 series, or perhaps something like these, but if you really wanna pound, you can do wayy better than 2 12's, especially in a Blazer.

Your amplifier choices here are virtually endless, but the JL, while pricey, is prolly one the nicest sub-amps on the market period, whilest the 2.67-ohm load will produce full power from the thing. I think it puts like 1600 watts into a reactive load. Powerful amplifier.

That across 3 10's... you'll be deaf in a year. posted_image

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"I'm finished!" - Daniel Plainview




Posted By: cujo613
Date Posted: August 24, 2005 at 10:24 AM

oxygen if you live in washington, I have a box custom made for early year blazer for four fifteens.

17.5 cubic feet ported to 20 hz. Made for the pr line of memphis. Had four of them running off a st1000.

People wouldnt even get in to listen.

Box price is free if you want it and are close.



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Alpine dva-7669 Alpine cva-1004 Zapco 360.4 zapco 1100.1 2 image dynamics idq v2 fifteens Alpine type r 5.25 components and 6x9's




Posted By: jeepmansro
Date Posted: August 24, 2005 at 10:34 AM
Hey... have you ever herd of diamond audio... they sell them at high end places, that deal with cars. they are kinda pricey, but when you get 2 12" in the custom box, while your driving down the road with your headlights on they will literially shake.




Posted By: godblessdremil
Date Posted: August 24, 2005 at 12:20 PM

Well for me alphasonik does it best 800 series 12" is 900 watts RMS. We put two of these in a tahoe and all i could say is god dam.  You can get them in eather 2 ohm dvc coils or 4 ohm dvc. And i would get eather a 1000DA or 1200DA depending on how many ohms ya wanna run it. And these things are some of the best amps in efficency i seen with very little power lost to heat. And if ya really got cash to spend 900 "Mayhem" series these are 2200 watts RMS but that will probally make ya deaf. Well anyway i like this company because it is a good price and good quallity with a good warranty. Also the pre-built boxes look pretty good i think. But here decide for yourself https://www.alphasonik.com/frameset.html





Posted By: speedwayaudio1
Date Posted: August 24, 2005 at 1:47 PM
sedate wrote:

Yea I'm putting my freakin w6 out to pasture this week. That thing never was very loud.

Cost me $450 too... prolly the worst car-stereo investment I've ever made. A truly overrated, underpreforming speaker. It was fairly clean.. I'll give it that.

Now, for the price of two 12w6's you ought be able to grab two subs AND a nice amp to run 'em... although.. to be totally honest, my personal taste in woofers runs a little funny... so I'll leave those for others..

I will tell ya one more thing though.. if you're in a Blazer, you've got space.. and you say...

oxygen65 wrote:

i have a blazer and i just want some insane bass that is gonna make people get in my car and have to get out becuse it is so loud


Okay, so try 3x10's. That'd be forcefully loud and not much more of an investment.
your kidding right? JL is one of the very best lines ever made you must of had them set up wrong

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Big Dave




Posted By: godblessdremil
Date Posted: August 24, 2005 at 2:32 PM
JL is a fine line just not worth the money they charge.




Posted By: blazeronspokes
Date Posted: August 24, 2005 at 3:03 PM
jl audio is one of the best companies out there right now, the only problem is that they are insanly expensive. i have 2 15" db drive platinum's on a mmats d200hc right now, and it hurts people to sit in my blazer. if you can afford jl, then go for it, i on the other hand, have had to trade and buy used stuff to get what i got. good luck with the system though.




Posted By: oxygen65
Date Posted: August 25, 2005 at 1:19 AM

OK i think i need to clarify some things here

- I got about 1600-1800 bux to spend on a system

- I want bass that is going to be very loud like you cant even sit in the car loud, but only when i really want it to be

- I would like it to sound clear but clearity is not the main thing here, I want bass and lots of it

- I dont care if there is trunk space left, I will go with 2, 3 or even 4 subs as long as they hit hard

ive heard good things about jl's i sat in this guyes malibu and he had 3 12v6v2's in it running off a 1000/1 jl amp and his car made my heartbeat change, his system was so loud that it cracked the frame of his malibu, thats the kinda bass that i want, and i think i have enough of a price range to make that happen. so any sugestions on what type of subs, how many, and what kinda amp to put it all together that would be great, as long as it isnt compleatly outragiouse in price.





Posted By: blazeronspokes
Date Posted: August 25, 2005 at 9:19 AM
for 1600-1800 dollars your gonna just be able to do like 2 w6's and 1 1000/1. i believe the amps are almost a grand a piece(not completely sure though) and the subs are like 3-4 hundred each. whatever you do it must be ported if you want real boomy bass. the difference between a ported box and a sealed box is night and day as fas bass goes in my opinion.




Posted By: offroadzj
Date Posted: August 25, 2005 at 11:55 AM

If you are interested, I have my MTX system for sale. It consist of 2 THunder 8000 subs that are about 600rms SVC. The amp is the Thunder 81000d mono 1200w rms amp.In a generic box it hit 144.5 at last years Tweeter SLAP show in Albany. It gave me 3rd place at the Tuner Battle this year in Lake George. he box that I had it in was an absolute nightmare. I had built the box around an amp rack that I wanted, which made the box approx. 6 cu. ft. per sub. Therefore I only hit around 141. It is a hell of a lot of bass out of a couple older subs. It also includes a Circuit City Protection Plan on both subs that is good for I believe another year or two, so if they blow you can just bring them back and get the credit for 2 new subs.

If interested, please pm me. I am looking for a decent offer to take the subs, amp, and Tsunami 2 Farad Cap (I believe).

Kenny





Posted By: offroadzj
Date Posted: August 25, 2005 at 11:57 AM

IN addition, if you are close enough to me, I will install the system for you as well (if you do not feel like doing it yourself) if the price is right.

Kenny





Posted By: T.Hill
Date Posted: August 25, 2005 at 1:27 PM
Not that I'm an expert or anything, but here's my 2 cents. How about 2 RE Audio SX 15's either sealed at 1.6cuft or ported at 3.5cuft with maybe around 600w a piece(maybe a little more if it's sealed). They run about $300 per sub shipped. These are well known for streetbass and I believe that is what you are asking for. As far as amps maybe a couple of Hifonics TX1005D's which would give them 1000w a piece($175 per plus shipping at ikesound.com). I know you said you had $1600-1800 dollars to spend which I'm sure you could, but all this would only run around a grand. Just one of many ways you could go with your system.

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Pioneer DEH-P980BT, Zapco DCREF1000.4,Pioneer TS-C520PRS, Adire Extremis, MTX TA91002, TC Sounds TC-3000 15"




Posted By: Glowinlow22
Date Posted: August 25, 2005 at 4:41 PM

how about a couple companies nobodies mentioned,  Memphis audio and adire audio,  if you've got the cash to throw down check out memphis subs and amps, i've got a single 15 pr series sub in my car running alittle over 200 watts and its freakin brutal in a sealed box i couldnt imagine 3 or 4 or these subs in a big ported enclosure, they also make much better subs further up the price scale...also adire audios subs are about to be released the new line of tempests are supposed to be pretty good from what i've heard.  Now if your all about slam that can stop your hear check out their line of brahma subs, they range from around 300 to 500 depending on size and i've seen a single 12 hit 170db and rip a doorjam apart on a van, these subs are all about moving air and making deep bass, and if i recall right dont need a ton of airspace to do it in.  memphis amps are supposed to be some of the best rated amps on the market from what i've read and seen....www.sonicelectrnix.com has some nice stuff.... www.woofersetc.com has a full line of memphis as well as jl audio products at decent prices and www.adireaudio.com   www.memphiscaraudio.com  that should set you up nice to start on the road to ultimate bass....as for the guy who mentioned diamond audio, there is a guy in town who owns a stereo shop, he has a 98 explorer with a wall of 8 15" subs each running around 1000watts with his stereo about a 1/3 of the way up its hard to breath much less talk, so its more about how well of an install you do as opposed to how much cash you spend.

J~





Posted By: uthinkuknoaudio
Date Posted: August 25, 2005 at 4:54 PM
don't go JL. Go with JBL, Memphis, Adire, Image Dynamics, or TC Sounds (Soundsplinter). Get your money's worth for what you pay for.

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"I don't play games. I play Nakamichi and that for real yo" - Probably some japanese kid said this in the early 80's trying to sell stereo out of his trunk lol.




Posted By: uthinkuknoaudio
Date Posted: August 25, 2005 at 4:55 PM
don't go JL. Go with JBL, Memphis, Adire, Image Dynamics, or TC Sounds (Soundsplinter). Get your money's worth for what you pay for.

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"I don't play games. I play Nakamichi and that for real yo" - Probably some japanese kid said this in the early 80's trying to sell stereo out of his trunk lol.




Posted By: offroadzj
Date Posted: August 26, 2005 at 1:17 AM

or just buy mine... lol

MTX subs are pretty damn reliable... and they can take  a good beating

Kenny





Posted By: sedate
Date Posted: August 26, 2005 at 7:49 AM
speedwayaudio1:

The best lines ever made? It certainly sounded good... yet..

I have a stack of circle-shaped MDF cutouts for the sub like a foot high from all the different boxes I put it in.

Even a head installer at a local shop kinda looked at me quizically when I explained why I didn't like it ... I think ultimately, for me, it was a poor purchase. It simply couldn't keep with with the 150 watts/channel I had to give my front componets, nor could you feel it in your ass... the thing dropped alright I guess, but not the solar-plexus punch I want from a car stereo. I mean.. I'm from the import tuner set... I like loud, masturbatory bass that massages ya all over eh?

I think it woulda been a good speaker, had it had a friend... but again, two 13w6's and an amp to run them? That'd be 1600 and I was busy spending my money where it didn't matter.... like RCA's and $80 distribution blocks.

Live and learn eh?

Actually. Now that I think about it...

Heh Oxygen65:

Two of these.

Mated to one of these.

That'd be $1600 - 1800 and ..like you say eh? 'Ear-Bleeding'?

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Posted By: Steven Kephart
Date Posted: August 26, 2005 at 1:02 PM
Glowinlow22 wrote:

Now if your all about slam that can stop your hear check out their line of brahma subs, they range from around 300 to 500 depending on size and i've seen a single 12 hit 170db and rip a doorjam apart on a van,


I just wanted to make a quick correction.  That was actually done with 9 15" Brahma's with 9 kilowatts a piece.  It was done in Scottie Johnson's vehicle.

Steven Kephart

Adire Audio



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Posted By: choover567
Date Posted: August 26, 2005 at 1:45 PM

you want somethin that REALLY hits... get two 12" or 15" mtx 9500's... i went into car toys and they played those at 600 watts each... in a soundproof room. it shook the whole store. those RMS at 1000 and peak at 3000 watts each. your gonna be heard from far far away when your comin around



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Alpine CDA-9884
Kicker SX1250.1
Kicker 15" L7




Posted By: choover567
Date Posted: August 26, 2005 at 2:04 PM
sorry, throw in an MTX thunder 81001 class D amp too. 1500 watts rms at 1 ohm, that will hit it

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Chris - 97 Toyota 4Runner
Alpine CDA-9884
Kicker SX1250.1
Kicker 15" L7




Posted By: T.Hill
Date Posted: August 26, 2005 at 2:28 PM
Or what about a Hifonics Colossus running either 2 15" RE XXX's or 2 15" RE MT's. Still around the $1800 mark and I'm sure the MT's would hurt you.

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Pioneer DEH-P980BT, Zapco DCREF1000.4,Pioneer TS-C520PRS, Adire Extremis, MTX TA91002, TC Sounds TC-3000 15"




Posted By: jstruckman
Date Posted: August 26, 2005 at 3:02 PM
Does anyone else feel more stupid after reading these posts?

Jazzy

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Posted By: uthinkuknoaudio
Date Posted: August 26, 2005 at 3:50 PM
These posts are rediculous lol. (One 12 hitting 170)
Thanks for that correction though.

We all know nothing hits as hard as a chromed out 34" Audiobahn though! Gotta get a PYLE amp though and put a crapload of crome on it and it will sound great! :)

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"I don't play games. I play Nakamichi and that for real yo" - Probably some japanese kid said this in the early 80's trying to sell stereo out of his trunk lol.




Posted By: jstruckman
Date Posted: August 26, 2005 at 4:27 PM
Heck yeah, those 34"incher Audiobahns will crack the frames on Malibu's all day long!!!

Jazzy

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Posted By: uthinkuknoaudio
Date Posted: August 27, 2005 at 5:20 PM
Malibu's, come on now. I put on of those in my leer jet and blew the windows out and twisted the frame! They make those Audiobahns sooo good these days. I hear they are going to make one called the KROMED0UT-PIECE-O-CRAP (80") SVC that can hit 450 db's in a pickup!

lol

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"I don't play games. I play Nakamichi and that for real yo" - Probably some japanese kid said this in the early 80's trying to sell stereo out of his trunk lol.




Posted By: dragon51
Date Posted: August 27, 2005 at 9:33 PM
Cerwin vega stokers used to be really good for spl but then when I was more into this stuff when Hifonics still produced killer amps about 10 years ago. The stokers I am sure will still pound with a good powerful amp with a properly built box (Some things never change)




Posted By: jeffchilcott
Date Posted: August 27, 2005 at 10:11 PM
If you want really loud, and somewhat clean......here is what I would say to go with

3-4 Kicker L7 12's    around $200or more each

2-3 KX1200 amps.    you can find the older amps on ebay for 250-300 each

Large alterntor. dommonick Irragi will have one for $350-$400

wires ect, battery,   $500-$600

this might be a little over budget but would be a killer setup

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2007 USACI World Champion
2007 World Record
2006 USACI Finals 2nd Place




Posted By: jwade311
Date Posted: August 27, 2005 at 11:46 PM
I'd have to agree with jeff. Can't go wrong with Kicker. I went from 2 comp 12's to 4 comp vr12's to my current setup, 2 L7 12's on a VR1000D wired at 1 ohm. Stock battery, 3 farad cap, and it hurts. If you want people to hear and feel you bass when you drive by, go with Kicker. But I'd have to recommend a sealed enclosure with about 1.3-1.5 cu. ft. per sub. That's just my personal opinion though.
I got my both of my kickers (brand new) for $382 shipped. I paid $525 for my amp, and don't remember how much my cap costs. I did the box myself, all the wiring, everything. Ok, I'm done bragging, good luck and let us know how it comes out.

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2004 GMC Sierra Single Cab
2 Kicker Solobarics L7 12's
Crossfire VR1000D
Infinity Kappa 6 1/2's
Infinity Reference 4x6 plates
Pioneer Premiere DEH-P770




Posted By: uthinkuknoaudio
Date Posted: August 28, 2005 at 7:22 AM
Kicker is still garbage for SQ. Plus i don't need roaring bass outside my car. The music is to be enjoyed by the people INSIDE the car IMO. You bought the equipment, don't you want to take the full brunt of it?

Here's a real system lol

Nakamichi CD700II
3 15" JBL WGTI15
1 A3000GTI amplifier
2 sets of 608GTI components
1 PX300.4 amplifier
Dominick Iraggi Alt
Optima Battery
0 gauge wiring

That is a real system. SQ and SPL.


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"I don't play games. I play Nakamichi and that for real yo" - Probably some japanese kid said this in the early 80's trying to sell stereo out of his trunk lol.




Posted By: jwade311
Date Posted: August 28, 2005 at 7:30 AM
Now give an estimate on total cost of your system.




Posted By: parrot
Date Posted: September 14, 2005 at 10:01 PM
I would say some kickers with 1000w rms would be a great way to make people get out of your van! They would be super loud but you wouldn't be able to tell what you were listening to. Not to mention the tickets you would rack up for noise pollution, disturbing the peace, and just plain playin a crappy system too loud.




Posted By: wrathchild281
Date Posted: September 15, 2005 at 2:49 PM
alrite listen. you have plenty of money to do what you want to do. go with memphis. 4 15in power reference subs in a ported inclosure. and go with a memphis 1000D amp or any other amp around 1000 to 1200 watts rms. this will set you back about 350 bucks for all 4 subs and around 300 for the amp. if you want even louder go with 4 15in M3's and a memphis 1500D amp. these subs will be about 900 for 4 of them and the amp about 600.





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