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10 inch SQ sub options

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Printed Date: April 27, 2024 at 1:10 PM


Topic: 10 inch SQ sub options

Posted By: hamrajw
Subject: 10 inch SQ sub options
Date Posted: September 08, 2005 at 2:15 PM

I'm looking to get a new 10 inch sub. Interested in one that provides good SQ. Any suggestions for around $100-200.
thanks



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Posted By: Firstnbass
Date Posted: September 08, 2005 at 5:17 PM
above that range but the kicker l7 and if to expensive l5 both are great subs, I have a l7 10 in my standard cab ranger and it pounds,

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Posted By: hamrajw
Date Posted: September 09, 2005 at 9:11 AM
Thanks for the suggestion. I will check that one out. I should also have mentioned that I will be powering it with the Memphis 16-MCD500 amp. It's 250W x 1 RMS at 4 ohms and 500W x 1 RMS at 2 ohms. I was also looking at the DLS UR 10. Is anyone familiar with this sub?




Posted By: OCURIEL
Date Posted: September 09, 2005 at 9:56 AM
kickers are loud, but not accurate. I would steer more towards a infinity perfect 12" dual voice coil sub. much more accurate & detailed. is there a reason why you want a 10". a 10" will want you begging for more.




Posted By: haemphyst
Date Posted: September 09, 2005 at 10:18 AM
OCURIEL wrote:

kickers are loud, but not accurate. I would steer more towards a infinity perfect 12" dual voice coil sub. much more accurate & detailed. is there a reason why you want a 10". a 10" will want you begging for more.

I agree with that statement, but that's FAR too much of a generalization, man! I wanted to go back to my Eclipse Ti10, after I "upgraded" to the Ti12. I was under the impression that the 12 was "more", and therefore "better", but the 10 actually went deeper, with MORE output capability than the 12. And before anyone starts in with "But the enclosure... blah, blah, blah..." Both drivers were taken to Harman Labs (I have an engineer friend there), put on the Klippel machine, and spec'd to a gnat's ***. THEN the same engineer, using his own software, (I mean it's HIS software - he WROTE the program) designed the enclosure(s) for me, THEN, another friend of mine cut the MDF on his router table (to 4 decimal places, thank you very much), after which I assembled the enclosure - without needing screws! The size of the driver means NOTHING... the capability of the driver means EVERYTHING!

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Posted By: Paradigm
Date Posted: September 09, 2005 at 11:10 AM

Damn haemphyst I'm jealous! posted_image

I would agree with staying away from the Kicker's. Notice how the guy said, "they pound." Ummm, that wasn't what hamrajw was asking for....



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VEHICLE: 2002 GMC Sonoma ZR2
Alpine CDA-7940
AudioControl EQT x2
JL Audio 1000/1
JL Audio 10W6 (originals) x3
Kicker ZR120
Kicker ZR460
Polk GXR-6 x4
Polk GXR-4 x2




Posted By: Firstnbass
Date Posted: September 09, 2005 at 11:53 AM
I just suggest from experiance, I have done the JL stuff but i think they are over rated, and as for the infinity, you may as well use pioneer. Now everybody knows that your not building a system to look at. otherwise would all buy infinity, lol. I do like the eclipse, but since you brought up the DLS UR 10, this sub is mad and looking to kick some ask a few questions about the air space on this sub though, and as the other post stated more isint exactly better. Be carfull with the Kicker and DLS stuff though, if your buying from feebay anyway cause both companies are strongly against the sale of their products on feebay. So if bought from them they will never honor a warrenty! so watch out for that one.

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Posted By: tcss
Date Posted: September 09, 2005 at 12:12 PM
You didn't mention the year and make of car and what, if any, size restrictions you might have.




Posted By: hamrajw
Date Posted: September 09, 2005 at 12:50 PM
OCURIEL wrote:

kickers are loud, but not accurate. I would steer more towards a infinity perfect 12" dual voice coil sub. much more accurate & detailed. is there a reason why you want a 10". a 10" will want you begging for more.


tcss] wrote:

You didn't mention the year and make of car and what, if any, size restrictions you might have.



I was looking for something that would not take up too much space. I was also thinking that a 10" would be a bit more accurate than a 12". I had 2 Infinity Reference 1020W, and want to get a better quality of sound.
I have a '05 Mazda Tribute.

If I did get the DLS I would most likely get it from a dealer. I saw it being sold for $235.




Posted By: Firstnbass
Date Posted: September 09, 2005 at 1:12 PM
What area are you in, Just incase you need it dlsamerica.com >find dealer or where to buy> choose buy state, good luck and that price is pretty good.

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Posted By: tcss
Date Posted: September 09, 2005 at 1:20 PM
Iv'e had great results with the JL 10" W3V2 and it should be in your price range.




Posted By: hamrajw
Date Posted: September 09, 2005 at 2:35 PM
Firstnbass wrote:

What area are you in, Just incase you need it dlsamerica.com >find dealer or where to buy> choose buy state, good luck and that price is pretty good.


I'm in NJ.
I saw it at soundcity for $235. www.soundcity.com
Has anyone ever dealt with this store?




Posted By: dwarren
Date Posted: September 09, 2005 at 3:50 PM
Check out the IDQ's or even the ID's. They can be had for your price range and are right there in the power range you have.

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Posted By: jettagli03
Date Posted: September 10, 2005 at 11:36 AM
i've installed the Infinity Kappa Perfect 10" in my friends car and he just loves the little thing, wont stop talking about its SQ -- its not huge SPL but it definately gets the job done in my opinion and i picked one up for him at about $90... thats a steal of a price for this little sub

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Posted By: stevdart
Date Posted: September 11, 2005 at 12:15 AM
That DLS subwoofer needs a vented enclosure (EBP is 105), so you might take that into consideration.  Also, it has dual 4 ohm voice coils and has a 400 watt continuous power handling rating, which doesn't bode well matched up with that amplifier for SQ purposes or for power handling at 2 ohms.  Consider looking at a 10" or 12" (smaller doesn't mean it's more accurate) sub with a single 4 ohm coil that is capable of at least 250 watts continuous, that has specs that encourage using a sealed box.  Then you can run your amp into the 4 ohm load for sweet SQ.

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Posted By: ss-installer
Date Posted: September 11, 2005 at 4:00 PM
im a big fan of Soundstream for sq, but thats me.

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Posted By: hamrajw
Date Posted: September 12, 2005 at 8:42 AM
dwarren wrote:

Check out the IDQ's or even the ID's. They can be had for your price range and are right there in the power range you have.


Can you provide a site or store that has these?
Thanks




Posted By: hamrajw
Date Posted: September 12, 2005 at 9:52 AM
I was looking at the specs for the IDQ10 D2 v.2. It says it dual 2 ohm with 250W RMS. This is a newbie question. Does that mean 250W per voice coil, or 250E for the sub itself. the Memphis amp I will be using is 250W RMS x 1 at 4 ohms, and 500W RMS x 1 at 2 ohms.




Posted By: boardinbum
Date Posted: September 12, 2005 at 10:34 AM
If it's dual 2 ohm, you would wire it for 4 ohms (diagram). and it means 250 total rms.

Here's a good site to look for ID subs.




Posted By: uthinkuknoaudio
Date Posted: September 12, 2005 at 4:12 PM
Kappa Perfect 10. SQ is great for the price.

Steer away from kicker. As stated above its loud but not clear, and if SQ is your goal, this is not for you.

Other companies: IDX,JBL,Nakamichi (look at the SPW1000D)

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Posted By: Firstnbass
Date Posted: September 13, 2005 at 9:03 AM
One question for HAMRAJW to help ease my pains, How old are you? What type of music do you listen to? What CD do you own the most of? (Ex.24, Country, Hank Williams) Actually 3 questions, and no I dont want a date? Please be specific, and answer without saying everything.Trust me I have... an Idea.

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Posted By: hamrajw
Date Posted: September 13, 2005 at 9:19 AM
You sure you don't want a date? posted_image Just kidding. Not that there's anything wrong with that.

I'm 29. I mostly listen to Eric Clapton and Reggae (mostly the softer side, occasionally some of the heavier stuff).





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