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Grounding kit or ground/discharge strap?

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Forum Name: Car Audio
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Printed Date: May 14, 2024 at 10:38 PM


Topic: Grounding kit or ground/discharge strap?

Posted By: Paradigm
Subject: Grounding kit or ground/discharge strap?
Date Posted: September 16, 2005 at 3:05 PM

What differences, if any, would there be to using either of these grounding techniques? Would one be better than the other or would they both work great together?

Trying to decide if I should buy/make a grounding kit for my audio system. The grounding kit seems to be a good idea, though I'm not sure about the claims of additional horsepower, less light dimming, better audio, better gas milage, etc. that I've been reading about them.

Anyone know or have an opinion?



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VEHICLE: 2002 GMC Sonoma ZR2
Alpine CDA-7940
AudioControl EQT x2
JL Audio 1000/1
JL Audio 10W6 (originals) x3
Kicker ZR120
Kicker ZR460
Polk GXR-6 x4
Polk GXR-4 x2



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Posted By: Francious70
Date Posted: September 16, 2005 at 3:32 PM
Ha. Ha. Hahahaha.

Snake oil my friend.

Granted, have as little ground resistance possible is a good thing can improve stuff, I don't think it'll add HP, gas mileage, ect.

"Will this kit help my hurtzzzzz?/!/!//? Will I gEt mad dbezezzz??"




Posted By: Paradigm
Date Posted: September 16, 2005 at 3:34 PM
lol yeah I know. I was skeptical too. Just asking, more for the grounding advantages than anything else. posted_image

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VEHICLE: 2002 GMC Sonoma ZR2
Alpine CDA-7940
AudioControl EQT x2
JL Audio 1000/1
JL Audio 10W6 (originals) x3
Kicker ZR120
Kicker ZR460
Polk GXR-6 x4
Polk GXR-4 x2




Posted By: tcss
Date Posted: September 16, 2005 at 6:19 PM
I'm not familier with a grounding kit Paradigm, could you elaberate a little more?




Posted By: Paradigm
Date Posted: September 17, 2005 at 10:11 PM

https://www.sfxperformance.com/parts/SUNHG00002B.htm

Yeah, something just like that...



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VEHICLE: 2002 GMC Sonoma ZR2
Alpine CDA-7940
AudioControl EQT x2
JL Audio 1000/1
JL Audio 10W6 (originals) x3
Kicker ZR120
Kicker ZR460
Polk GXR-6 x4
Polk GXR-4 x2




Posted By: Rxzruby
Date Posted: September 17, 2005 at 10:25 PM
what!!  did that link just say if you had a better ground you could gain m.p.g. & h.p.?????posted_image




Posted By: stevdart
Date Posted: September 18, 2005 at 6:52 AM
They've made a kit for the Big 3 upgrade.  Not a bad idea...but you can do it much cheaper than that.  One ground wire that should always be upgraded under the hood is the ground from battery negative to chassis, usually a foot in length or less.  Since the audio system is grounded to chassis, this ground wire should at least equal the gauge of the ground wire that the amplifiers use.  The OEM ground is usually much smaller.

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Build the box so that it performs well in the worst case scenario and, in return, it will reward you at all times.




Posted By: haemphyst
Date Posted: September 18, 2005 at 4:03 PM
Paradigm wrote:


https://www.sfxperformance.com/parts/SUNHG00002B.htm

Yeah, something just like that...




For an extra $495.00, they'll give you a kiss to go with it... $695.00'll get you a reach-around!

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It all reminds me of something that Molière once said to Guy de Maupassant at a café in Vienna: "That's nice. You should write it down."




Posted By: Teslank
Date Posted: September 18, 2005 at 4:14 PM

about hp and gas mileage i am a mechanic and you cant gain power because electrical systems dont affect the mechanical system. if you want more power port your heads add lightweight valvetrain put a real 2.5" cat back exhaust and cold air intake and performance intake and you should be good kicking some SI civics posted_image

but that includes 2000$ and maybe more :P





Posted By: Alpine Guy
Date Posted: September 18, 2005 at 9:37 PM
i have seen some real time dyno results with one of those wire kits, about 1hp increase. Because the stock grounding on the engine was so lousy it caused the computer to read the codes slower, upgradeing the ground made that little difference.  Im certain just the big 3 would do that same gain however.  

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2003 Chevy Avalanche,Eclipse CD7000,Morel Elate 5,Adire Extremis,Alpine PDX-4.150, 15" TC-3000, 2 Alpine PDX-1.1000, 470Amp HO Alt.




Posted By: Paradigm
Date Posted: September 19, 2005 at 11:31 AM

Alpine Guy wrote:

i have seen some real time dyno results with one of those wire kits, about 1hp increase. Because the stock grounding on the engine was so lousy it caused the computer to read the codes slower, upgradeing the ground made that little difference.  Im certain just the big 3 would do that same gain however.  

That was kinda my impression too - just doing the Big 3 would be more than enough to balance out the ground. Would this also help with eliminating the static charge that sometimes will "zap" you when you get out of the vehicle? That's why I was wondering about the ground strap and if it would be necessary.

In NO WAY was I looking for the grounding kit to do ANYTHING in regards to hp or mpg,etc. And no reacharounds, either. Sorry haemphyst posted_imageposted_image



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VEHICLE: 2002 GMC Sonoma ZR2
Alpine CDA-7940
AudioControl EQT x2
JL Audio 1000/1
JL Audio 10W6 (originals) x3
Kicker ZR120
Kicker ZR460
Polk GXR-6 x4
Polk GXR-4 x2




Posted By: haemphyst
Date Posted: September 19, 2005 at 11:39 AM
posted_image Dammmiit!

Oh, well. But no, it won't fix the static shock issue you might be experiencing.

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It all reminds me of something that Molière once said to Guy de Maupassant at a café in Vienna: "That's nice. You should write it down."




Posted By: footbaldd
Date Posted: September 20, 2005 at 7:43 PM
I wouldnt pay that for a ground kit if it was me. What I did was picked up some 2 guage wire and terminals from my dads work and went through it all. Now it wasnt the easiest thing to do, but it is definately worth the trouble. I also picked up a yellowtop while I was at it, since my battery was three years old.





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