Shopping for 1500wrm amp
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Topic: Shopping for 1500wrm amp
Posted By: kd7nfr
Subject: Shopping for 1500wrm amp
Date Posted: October 16, 2005 at 9:23 AM
Hey guys, long time no see. My friend just picked up some MTX subs (no idea wtf they are), and he's looking for a 1500wrms (or about) amp. I was looking at the RE 12.1, they say it's highly underrated and runs 1400-1500wrms. Any ideas? He's not quit sure on his budget yet, so anything's possible!
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Posted By: Velocity Motors
Date Posted: October 16, 2005 at 9:57 AM
I suggest the 1501D from MTX. We sell these to customer's that pair it up with dual 7500 12's or 8500 12's. The single 9500 15 " take all the power this amp puts out !
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Jeff
Velocity Custom Home Theater
Mobile Audio/Video Specialist
Morden, Manitoba CANADA
Posted By: arrow12
Date Posted: October 16, 2005 at 10:06 AM
i suggest the Hifonics BX2005D. It is 1300W at 2 ohms and 2000W at 1 ohm.
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That's my opinion. Take it, leave it, or correct me.
Posted By: kd7nfr
Date Posted: October 16, 2005 at 10:09 AM
Where can I get an MTX 1501D? And what's the power output? And Hifonics is overrated and is crap, IMO.
Posted By: Velocity Motors
Date Posted: October 16, 2005 at 10:21 AM
kd7nfr wrote:
Where can I get an MTX 1501D? And what's the power output? And Hifonics is overrated and is crap, IMO.
| General | | | RMS Power | 1x750Watts | | Power at 2 Ohms | 1x1500Watts | | Fan Cooled | No | | Bass Boost | 0-18dB | | Bass Boost Frequency | 40Hz | | Channel Operation | 1 | | Signal-to-Noise | 100dB | | Frequency Response | 20-200Hz | | Adjustable Crossover | Yes | | LED Power Indicator | Yes | | Input/Output | | | Fuse Rating | 1 x 150Amp | | Input Voltage | 14.4Volts | | Speaker Level Inputs | Yes | | Low-Pass Crossover Frequency | 40-200Hz | | Low-Pass Slope | 24dB | | Preamp Outputs | 1 Pair |
They are harder to come by but we have 2 brand new ones in stock. PM for more details. ------------- Jeff
Velocity Custom Home Theater
Mobile Audio/Video Specialist
Morden, Manitoba CANADA
Posted By: supradude
Date Posted: October 16, 2005 at 2:23 PM
And why do you say Hifonics is crap? The 2200D I have does fine.
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Posted By: arrow12
Date Posted: October 16, 2005 at 7:07 PM
I thought Hifonics was a pretty good amp company?
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That's my opinion. Take it, leave it, or correct me.
Posted By: kd7nfr
Date Posted: October 16, 2005 at 9:58 PM
"Pretty good". They're alright, but he doesn't want something that cheap.
Posted By: action1978
Date Posted: October 16, 2005 at 11:24 PM
I'd rather have my Hifonics than an MTX
Posted By: dwarren
Date Posted: October 16, 2005 at 11:35 PM
action1978 wrote:
I'd rather have my Hifonics than an MTX
How do you back up this statement? Where are your premises for your claim? -------------
Posted By: precision sales
Date Posted: October 17, 2005 at 8:05 AM
A lot of what you need depends on the rms and max wattage of the subs and also what price range you're wanting to stay in. There are a lot of good amps out there it's just a matter of your price point and personal preference.
Posted By: kd7nfr
Date Posted: October 17, 2005 at 12:30 PM
Max wattage means nothing. And price range hasn't been decided yet. We're not hurting for money, but if there's some shweet deal, then well go for it. I have a Zapco C2K9.0 sitting here, so yea, I know about quality. Best amp I've ever seen.
Posted By: DYohn
Date Posted: October 17, 2005 at 12:40 PM
If you're not worried about your budget, the JBL A3000GTI produces an honest and extremely clean 1600 watts X2 @ 4 OHMS. But it ain't cheap at $4K. Their dedicated subwoffer amplifier is their BPX2200.1. ------------- Support the12volt.com
Posted By: kd7nfr
Date Posted: October 17, 2005 at 12:47 PM
$4k for 1600 watts? No... I can get 4-5k from Zapco from that much. Heh. I was just saying, all things considered, we could go for "top-of-the-line", but honestly, we're not looking for that. We're looking for a decent amp for a decent price. But the more we know of the amps in this power range, the better. We'll be doing a system in his Cougar soon too...
Posted By: haemphyst
Date Posted: October 17, 2005 at 12:49 PM
And following DYohn's lead, the Eclipse DA7232 also is honestly (UNDER)rated at 1000 watts per channel into 4 ohms, and its about 1100 dollars. Most dealers will sell it for less than that, though. I have this amp, and it's a MONSTER!
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It all reminds me of something that Molière once said to Guy de Maupassant at a café in Vienna: "That's nice. You should write it down."
Posted By: DYohn
Date Posted: October 17, 2005 at 12:54 PM
haemphyst wrote:
And following DYohn's lead, the Eclipse DA7232 also is honestly (UNDER)rated at 1000 watts per channel into 4 ohms, and its about 1100 dollars. Most dealers will sell it for less than that, though. I have this amp, and it's a MONSTER!
... and sound far better than anything from MTX or Hifonics or most other low-to-mid level companies. Same league as Zapco, IMO. ------------- Support the12volt.com
Posted By: DYohn
Date Posted: October 17, 2005 at 1:20 PM
kd7nfr wrote:
$4k for 1600 watts? .
Yes, because it sounds amazingly good. You don't just pay for watts, you pay for quality. I have a 50WPC stereo amp that cost me more than $1K and nothing even comes close in terms of sound quality. ------------- Support the12volt.com
Posted By: forbidden
Date Posted: October 17, 2005 at 1:28 PM
I second that Eclispe amp, it is a monster of uber high build quality (know this from taking it apart actually) that is disguised as a nice looking surfboard made out of silver powder coated aluminum. Companies build things to hit different pricepoints. If you are a entry level flashing blue light special KaMeapART kind of customer, Hifonics builds their amps in this price range. If you are after a good amp, MTX is a big step up, if you want to be the man and step up again, Eclipse, Zapco and others are where you belong.
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Posted By: Alpine Guy
Date Posted: October 17, 2005 at 1:37 PM
Crossfire VR series  ------------- 2003 Chevy Avalanche,Eclipse CD7000,Morel Elate 5,Adire Extremis,Alpine PDX-4.150, 15" TC-3000, 2 Alpine PDX-1.1000, 470Amp HO Alt.
Posted By: forbidden
Date Posted: October 17, 2005 at 1:38 PM
Yes, yes, the Crossfire is a great amp, still not a Eclipse but a great amp that is more than comparable to the MTX.
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Top Secret, I can tell you but then my wife will kill me.
Posted By: kd7nfr
Date Posted: October 17, 2005 at 3:41 PM
I actually own an Eclipe DA7232. It IS a monter. But I was wondering what the RMS was on it... now I know. I have it running my two Eclipse Ti's. It was this forum that actually introduced me to that amp. Maybe we'll hook that amp up to 'em and see how she sounds...
Posted By: kd7nfr
Date Posted: October 17, 2005 at 3:43 PM
Yet another question... anyone have a DA7232 for sale? I really don't care much for warranties when it comes to amps...
Posted By: haemphyst
Date Posted: October 17, 2005 at 3:56 PM
kd7nfr wrote:
I actually own an Eclipe DA7232. It IS a monter. But I was wondering what the RMS was on it... now I know. I have it running my two Eclipse Ti's. It was this forum that actually introduced me to that amp. Maybe we'll hook that amp up to 'em and see how she sounds...
I asked that same question of the techs at Eclipse when I went to the CES last year. (I mention "techs" because I didn't want a salesman (even an Eclipse salesman) inflating the numbers...) I asked two different ones, on differnet days of the show, and the first one said "We get around 1350 watts perchannel all day long into 4 ohms" and the second one said pretty much the same thing, but his number was 1250...
Take that for what it might be worth, but I can say, from experience, it is a VERY capable piece of equipment!
kd7nfr wrote:
Yet another question... anyone have a DA7232 for sale? I really don't care much for warranties when it comes to amps...
Nope... you'll be prying that amp from my cold, dead, fingers! Perhaps the finest piece of electronics gear I have ever owned! ------------- It all reminds me of something that Molière once said to Guy de Maupassant at a café in Vienna: "That's nice. You should write it down."
Posted By: kd7nfr
Date Posted: October 17, 2005 at 4:02 PM
"We get around 1350 watts perchannel all day long into 4 ohms" and the second one said pretty much the same thing, but his number was 1250... " You mean 2ohms? Cuz that's a lot @ 4... And yea, I found a guy on eBay that wouldn't go below $600 for his DA7232. I ended up getting one off a buddy up here that owns an Eclipse dealership. But I argued with that guy forever on the price (I won it, just didn't get to reserve price) about getting one. I told him I could get a new one for $850 from www.electronicgiant.com with a 90 day warranty.... why pay $600 for a used one with no warranty? I have a hook-up here, so I'll see what I can do...
Posted By: haemphyst
Date Posted: October 17, 2005 at 6:54 PM
Nope... I mean 4 ohms. Yes, it IS a lot, whether 4 or 2 ohms, but the amp is rated 4000 watts (2000 per channel) at 2 ohms, and 1000wpc into 4 ohms.
Even at 850 that's a smokin' price
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It all reminds me of something that Molière once said to Guy de Maupassant at a café in Vienna: "That's nice. You should write it down."
Posted By: kd7nfr
Date Posted: October 17, 2005 at 6:55 PM
But it says peak on their site.... So it's really 2,000wrms at 2ohms? Jesus... I'm giving my 750wrms Ti's 2,000 watts a peice... They're holding up though...
Posted By: kd7nfr
Date Posted: October 17, 2005 at 6:57 PM
Don't tell anyone, but I'm an authorized Eclipse dealer.... So I have a "hookup".... But ordering is a kind of a bitch, it's a little different.... I have to have so much in stock, and I've pretty much sold it all, so I'm looking to "restock". Havn't decided if I'm going to again or not.
Posted By: Alpine Guy
Date Posted: October 17, 2005 at 9:22 PM
This is starting to get confuseing.
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2003 Chevy Avalanche,Eclipse CD7000,Morel Elate 5,Adire Extremis,Alpine PDX-4.150, 15" TC-3000, 2 Alpine PDX-1.1000, 470Amp HO Alt.
Posted By: kd7nfr
Date Posted: October 18, 2005 at 7:28 PM
How so? LOL!
Posted By: DYohn
Date Posted: October 18, 2005 at 9:04 PM
kd7nfr wrote:
Don't tell anyone, but I'm an authorized Eclipse dealer.... .
Most of what you wrote before this post seems to belie this statement, wouldn't you say?. If you're an "authorized dealer," with what company? Where are you located? And why would you not know much about your own represented line? ------------- Support the12volt.com
Posted By: kd7nfr
Date Posted: October 18, 2005 at 11:33 PM
I just barely started. And it's for the Buzz shop in Pocatello Idaho. And honestly, the deals really aren't as great as you'd think... I havn't really pursued it with much interest yet. The system I have now does just fine :P. I've been spending $ on my 1977 Monte Carlo... I hope this goes through, my "big" computer died, and I'm using this old 233Mhz for the time-being.
Posted By: tcss
Date Posted: October 19, 2005 at 11:44 AM
I'm confused too. Are you saying that Eclipse has a large minimum order number? A large number of SKUs that must be on display? A large opening order at the beginning of the model year? I am not an Eclipse dealer and I'm kinda curious.
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