will this setup work:
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Printed Date: July 07, 2025 at 10:59 PM
Topic: will this setup work:
Posted By: pznat
Subject: will this setup work:
Date Posted: October 16, 2005 at 3:14 PM
I have a verry small box in my dodge qad cab (about .58 cu/ft) and i was curious if one of these set ups is better
1. Xtant 301a with 2- Image Dynamics IDQ12 D4 v.2
2. the same ID subs with this amp: Kenwood KAC 9102d
also when its all said and done will the amp have a 2 ohm load or a 4 ohm (when wired the best way)
thanks,
Griff ------------- _P Griff
Replies:
Posted By: Blowntweeters
Date Posted: October 16, 2005 at 4:02 PM
well you can get 2 ohm load with those subs 4 ohms or 1ohm . whats the best is up to you. 1 ohm will give you more power . how ever 4 ohms will give you much better SQ . and i would take an Xtant. amp over a kenwood any day. i would suggest buying you amp from a local shop .or a online vender Ebay would be one of the last places i would buy a amp. but the person selling the Ctant amp does good feedback 100%
------------- 1974 ford pinto 4 15" punch Z power punch bd 1001 pioneer DEH-6700
Posted By: pznat
Date Posted: October 16, 2005 at 5:32 PM
also i was curious if anyone knew of a sub that will work in a small box (.58-.80 cu/ft) for around $100, those ID subs i want are a bit out of my price range
------------- _P Griff
Posted By: Blowntweeters
Date Posted: October 16, 2005 at 6:03 PM
i cant think of anything that cheep. thats even close the quality. soundstream van gogh's can be had for 189 ea. but if your looking for a bargin www.ikesound.com is where its at. ------------- 1974 ford pinto 4 15" punch Z power punch bd 1001 pioneer DEH-6700
Posted By: pznat
Date Posted: October 17, 2005 at 3:05 AM
So i figured out my setup, let me know if something about this wont work.
Amp: Xtant 301a
Subs: 2- Pioneer TS-SW124D Shallow-Mount 12"
thanks,
P ------------- _P Griff
Posted By: Alpine Guy
Date Posted: October 17, 2005 at 1:59 PM
Do you have .5 cu.ft in total, or per sub? In your situation i would reccomend putting 1 quality 12" sub such as that image dynamics sub, and build the box exactly to the specs it requires, it will sound way better than any shoe horned dual set up, and that way you will at least be able to run the sub to its abilitys with that amp you got. Trust me, the 1 12" will be louder than 2 cheaper ones. I have been running single sub set ups for 2 years now, hit 143 db with a single alpine type-r, its all in the box.
------------- 2003 Chevy Avalanche,Eclipse CD7000,Morel Elate 5,Adire Extremis,Alpine PDX-4.150, 15" TC-3000, 2 Alpine PDX-1.1000, 470Amp HO Alt.
Posted By: pznat
Date Posted: October 17, 2005 at 4:43 PM
Its .58 per sub, and i already made the box, i would of just made it for one if i had known that my original subs (RF punch 2's) wernt going to work. but i spent quite a bit of time on the box, i used the cargo wells as a mold and made it out of fiberglass with an MDF top, and covered it in vinal, so i feel obligated to make it work. those pioneers should be ok shouldent they?, they seemed to have good reviews. let me know if there is something i should know about them.
thanks a ton,
P
here is a pic of the box i am working with
 ------------- _P Griff
Posted By: Alpine Guy
Date Posted: October 17, 2005 at 9:17 PM
Thats a very nice box you have there. I haven't heard anything about the pioneers, do you have a pioneer dealer in town to listen to them?
------------- 2003 Chevy Avalanche,Eclipse CD7000,Morel Elate 5,Adire Extremis,Alpine PDX-4.150, 15" TC-3000, 2 Alpine PDX-1.1000, 470Amp HO Alt.
Posted By: Blowntweeters
Date Posted: October 17, 2005 at 10:27 PM
those subs might be just right. but before you buy them . find a pioneer dealer,and listen to them with the same .RMS power you will be running. and the same airspace.also you sould line that box with polyfil.
------------- 1974 ford pinto 4 15" punch Z power punch bd 1001 pioneer DEH-6700
Posted By: pznat
Date Posted: October 17, 2005 at 10:43 PM
thanks for the feedback, I do have that box stuffed with polyfill (about 1lb per ft.) unfortuantly there is like 2 car audio dealers in my town and thier inventory is a joke so i problilly wont get a chance to listen to them. has anyone ever heard them ( pioneer )??
thanks,
p
------------- _P Griff
Posted By: Blowntweeters
Date Posted: October 18, 2005 at 11:00 AM
i have had some pioneers subs. i liked the impp's and the and the single 10" loaded box from way back when. i would say buy them. retail is over $200. for the price there worth a shot. premier is pioneers higher end.
------------- 1974 ford pinto 4 15" punch Z power punch bd 1001 pioneer DEH-6700
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