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89 Honda Prelude, battery or alternator

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Topic: 89 Honda Prelude, battery or alternator

Posted By: honomichl
Subject: 89 Honda Prelude, battery or alternator
Date Posted: December 15, 2005 at 6:42 AM

I have a 89" honda prelude I am debating on a Kinetik Battery -https://https://www.kinetikaudio.com/hc2400.asp or a HO alterenator. I will be running a Kicker Kx1200.1 and a LA 300.4. If any of you guys have had Kinetick batteries how did they do. And on the HO alterenator i did some research and called a couple a places. And one guy told me that they don't make them for Jap. cars. I talked to another guy and he said that some companies do make them. If you know where i could get a H0 alterenator for a honda let me know.

Thanks

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Posted By: speedwayaudio1
Date Posted: December 15, 2005 at 7:28 AM
Why not get both? It can only improve your whole system. And yes they do make them for cars from Japan. Do a site search on Grounds, alts, batts, and the big 3. It will tell you all you need to know. posted_image

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Posted By: haemphyst
Date Posted: December 15, 2005 at 9:48 AM
You NEED both. The battery is the helper, the alternator is the SOURCE of all the power in a car.

Call Alterstart in Texas. I got a 165A for my 2001 Civic there. Some will tell you that the Alterstart alternators are not good, but I have (as of this weekend) that the Iraggi's have problems too (and you know who you are). Check into the Iraggi's on eBay. I have had very good luck with the Alterstart equipment, and I have installed 6 of them. All on Honda cars, too.

MAKE SURE your alternator lead and chassis grounds are all up to snuff BEFORE you complain about the alternator (if you happen to have issues with it). If you do everything right, and CORRECT from he start, you shouldn't have any issues with any HO alternator.

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Posted By: honomichl
Date Posted: December 15, 2005 at 4:45 PM

Thanks

Would two yellow tops be the same as a HO alt. I have a spending limit to 350.



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Posted By: honomichl
Date Posted: December 15, 2005 at 5:01 PM
Haemphyst i just called them and they said that that the biggest alt. that they made for my car is 170 amps. Alt was 300.00 would that be enough for my stereo or would i need bigger.

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Posted By: haemphyst
Date Posted: December 15, 2005 at 5:06 PM
honomichl wrote:

Thanks

Would two yellow tops be the same as a HO alt. I have a spending limit to 350.



NO. READ BELOW...

haemphyst wrote:

You NEED both. The battery is the helper, the alternator is the SOURCE of all the power in a car.

Call Alterstart in Texas. I got a 165A for my 2001 Civic there. Some will tell you that the Alterstart alternators are not good, but I have (as of this weekend) that the Iraggi's have problems too (and you know who you are). Check into the Iraggi's on eBay. I have had very good luck with the Alterstart equipment, and I have installed 6 of them. All on Honda cars, too.

MAKE SURE your alternator lead and chassis grounds are all up to snuff BEFORE you complain about the alternator (if you happen to have issues with it). If you do everything right, and CORRECT from he start, you shouldn't have any issues with any HO alternator.

We have been over this and OVER this on this forum. THE ALTERNATOR IS THE SOURCE OF ALL THE POWER IN A CAR. You cannot substitute batteries for an alternator (and before you ask, caps are not a substitute either, so don't go there...). End of story. You must have the alternator first - the SOURCE of all the power, THEN add all the batteries your suspension can handle!


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You got to it before I did... 170A should be plenty. I have a 165 and it works perfectly well for the continuous power levels I use. Your system would use about 150A on a continuous, WFO basis... So 170 should work out just about right on the spot for you, as you will never be using all the power, all the time.

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It all reminds me of something that Molière once said to Guy de Maupassant at a café in Vienna: "That's nice. You should write it down."




Posted By: honomichl
Date Posted: December 15, 2005 at 5:10 PM
what kind of power levels do you have? what is the voltage it stays at.?

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you can't be ahead of the curb if you aren't LIVIN LOUD




Posted By: haemphyst
Date Posted: December 15, 2005 at 5:14 PM
I have about 6kW of Eclipse amplifiers, and the ammeter in my dash tells me that my system (alone) can pull around 130A on a fairly regular basis - and that is about as loud as I can stand it. Most often, even with A/C, lights, RWDefogger, I will pull around 100 to 110A. My voltage never drops below 13.4v, usually hanging closer to 13.8 to 14. Again, I rarely even think about using all the power, so 165A (in MY system) is plenty.

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It all reminds me of something that Molière once said to Guy de Maupassant at a café in Vienna: "That's nice. You should write it down."




Posted By: honomichl
Date Posted: December 15, 2005 at 5:16 PM
Thanks haemphyst

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Posted By: mcjonesy
Date Posted: February 14, 2006 at 2:17 AM
In the future (this goes for anyone who drives a 88-91 Prelude) ask about alternators for a 90-93 Accord, they bolt up with VERY minimal modification, and typically the aftermarket support is a little better for the 4th gen accords than it is for the 3rd gen Preludes.




Posted By: chucksnee
Date Posted: February 14, 2006 at 2:53 AM
Yes the 90 accord ALT can be used and it gives 90 amps of out put instead of 70 and it is cheaper.

Here is a link on how to install it.

https://www.prelude3g.com/

Look under engine mods




Posted By: jeffchilcott
Date Posted: February 14, 2006 at 2:54 AM
you can also fit a chevy small block alternator.. I e Large case delco with little modifications to the factory brackets and a diffrent belt.      

But I will say this, with the KX1200.1 and any 4 channel the kinetik 2400 would power these without a problem and you would do fine on your factory alternator

My girlfriend has been running street setups in her honda civic for over a year with much more current draw then this off one 2400 with no problems or dimming, I am not trying to contridict the statements about alternators, All my street and comp vehicles have one large or multiple alternators.

The kinetik 2400 is a force to be reckoned with, if you havent tried one and can fit one, DO IT!

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Posted By: chucksnee
Date Posted: February 14, 2006 at 3:00 AM
Jeff you have a part # on that small block alt? What is the difference in output?




Posted By: jeffchilcott
Date Posted: February 14, 2006 at 2:57 PM
any large case alternator off a chevy V8 will do, they are typically all delco's      They are normally rated at 125-150amps but can be rebuild by any alternator shop to over 200 amps

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2007 World Record
2006 USACI Finals 2nd Place




Posted By: honomichl
Date Posted: February 15, 2006 at 7:19 AM

Didn't know that.



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Posted By: supradude
Date Posted: February 15, 2006 at 7:36 AM
I, for one, will never buy from alterstart again, ever. I bought mine, had to send it back, then wait forever for them to send it back. When I got it the second time the pulley was broke. I had all kinds of problems with them. When I finally got it the last time it still didn't work right. I ended up taking it to a local rebuild shop and they checked it and told me what was wrong with it. I ended up paying them to fix it and it has been fine ever since. I just can't promote people like that. On top of all the problems I had with them, they tried to talk trash to me , saying the problem wasn't theirs when they hadn't even checked it out. 

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