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Topic: how many of what size subs?

Posted By: jsesterly
Subject: how many of what size subs?
Date Posted: January 06, 2006 at 12:47 PM

Trying to decide how many of what size subs to add into my suburban. Hoping someone could help out a bit. Whats the difference between say 2 10's to 1- 12" or 2 - 12's to a 15"   I am swapping out the old seats for a set of durango seats which gives me extra room on both sides.. wanted to add a 10 on both sides, along with 1 in the center console that is being made, and 2 in the back. which made me think about ...5-10's?  wouldnt it be easier to just have 3-12's?



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Posted By: youngone
Date Posted: January 06, 2006 at 1:20 PM
first what kind of music do you listen to. what kind of car do you have, how much space do you have. usually the bigger the subs the more expensive they are.

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Posted By: jsesterly
Date Posted: January 06, 2006 at 1:23 PM

Its an 83 Suburban. LOOooooots of room. I listen to all types depending on mood.  country, rock, r&b..

I understand the bigger the more exp.. but comparing 2 10s to the price of 112..and the 2 10s are more exp.





Posted By: youngone
Date Posted: January 06, 2006 at 1:45 PM
well the sub size all depends on what you want to have in your car. what do you feel like having in your car? i take it that you are leaning towards 10s.

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Posted By: godblessdremil
Date Posted: January 06, 2006 at 1:55 PM

The difference in size is really how load it can get, the bigger the sub of that sub's line the more watts it can take. A suburban you can fit dam near anyone ya like. I find though if ya use say two 10's instead of one 12 its a stiffer base. But this all depends on many factors. My advice see if you can listen to any of the sub your thinking about in action, ignore peoples advice on brands unless there is a reliability problem because they might not like what you like in a sub.





Posted By: youngone
Date Posted: January 06, 2006 at 2:06 PM
the thing that lots of people think that the smaller the sub the tighter the base you get. this isn't true you can get a 15'' to have the same sq that a 10'' would have. but there are lots of factors that come into play hear. it is all about the listener. what size sub/s do you like. it isn't me how is going to buy and listen to these subs its you and its what you like best that counts.

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Posted By: Blowntweeters
Date Posted: January 07, 2006 at 2:22 AM
i would go with a even number of subs. also remeber bass is not directional. do you already have an amp or amps ? what i would do with 83 suburban. on a middle of the road budet. is 2 15" subs single 4 ohm coils and a mono block amp stalbe @ 2 ohms

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Posted By: MikesMarine
Date Posted: January 07, 2006 at 2:32 AM

first things first.... what is your budget?

your talkin' bout speakers next to the rear seat and in the center counsle... your getting into trick stuff if you want it to sound good.

what kinda amps are you running... or plan to run?

do you want sound good bass or SPL bass?

alot of things unanswered, so lets start with budget! cuz like its been said, you got unlimited space for a killer system, though those older 'burbens rattle like crazy... fit some 'mat into your budget





Posted By: geepherder
Date Posted: January 07, 2006 at 9:21 AM
I agree with the above recommendation- stick the subs in one location.  Otherwise you can get some nasty cancellation and will not be happy with the end result.

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Posted By: kirktcashalini
Date Posted: January 07, 2006 at 9:52 AM
sounds to me you want some good sound quality... I would concern yourself with the amplifiers first. if you get a good quality amp you will probably be able to tune the bass properly to your likings. whether with the bass adjustment knobs you could mount up front, or on the amps themselves. and that is alot of types of music. do you plan on running a sealed box or a vented box?

either way its going to sound good as long as you get alright quality subs and good quality amp(s). remember you can tune good amps a real lot and they are very adjustable to what you will like. good luck, i love those old school burbs, glad your keepin it alive.

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Posted By: jsesterly
Date Posted: January 07, 2006 at 9:59 PM
Ok, here is my "evil plan"..   I have a 83 burb that I am totally redoing inside to outside. It will be a daily driver where I wont be listening to the stereo really all that loud, or at least nothing a normal stereo wouldnt be able to handle, but will occasionally crank it up.  Now comes the fun part.. I want to make this into a tailgate machine..(nothing monster garage or anything) I am a huge football fan and want to be able to take it to games and show it off a bit. I plan on adding 2 tv (small) screens and a dvd player. While tailgating I want to be able to hear the radio nicely outside the 'burb. I am also going to be hooking up my directv so while waiting for our team to play we can watch other games (via 40" tv That I'll take along), I'd like to be able to hear it through the speakers in the burb. So Really I guess I dont need "killer" bass as much as I need loudness. All speaker holes (doors) and throughout the burb will be made by me, so i can basically put anything where ever I want. The burb seats are all being replaced with a new set of durango seats, which the 3rd row isnt as wide..leaving me about 5 inchs on both sides. I need to keep the rear somewhat open (so i can slide in my 40" tv) and for extra coolers and such. I plan on building a "box" in the shape of the spare tire holding 2 of the 10's, and thought about putting one in a not yet built center console.. My burb already has 2 batteries, and I am adding a 3rd as soon as my isolator gets here.. 1 is to run the burb.. 1 to run my extra crap (winch,lights....whatever else) and the 3rd for the amps/stereo.. I have bought 3 10" Kenwoods, no deck yet, no amps, no other speakers. And yes I already looked into getting some brownbag on ebay. I just didnt think the 2 10s in the back would be enough to hear on regular days that far back..let alone when I wanna crank it up. I'm not looking for anything to "compete" with.. just some fun on sundays that doesnt sound like crap.

Circut city wasnt much help.. after trying to explain what I planned on doing he kinda blinked a few times and said.. you may want to come back later and speak to our dept manager.. Thaaaaanks buddy. BIG help.




Posted By: godblessdremil
Date Posted: January 07, 2006 at 10:24 PM
Lol first off this isn't something ya want done at best buy or circuit city. I dunno about you but most people who work there in my area are no older then 16 and just got there MECP Basic cert. Your going to need a 2nd battery probally a yellow top or similar design. Gonna need high wattage to the subs, and high watts to the doors. When you are runing this stuff your gonna want it to be off the second battery. Also get a new alternator. Your gonna show off and need some space to stash all the tailgating gear, so fiberglass, rims, etc is recomended. Also to answer the topic question 2 high wattage subs id say over 1kw each, atleast 12 but id lean to 15's.




Posted By: jsesterly
Date Posted: January 07, 2006 at 10:36 PM
Yeah HO alt is on the way.. have dual batteries already in it. Its a 6.2 diesel! haha. adding the 3rd battery for extra toys. I'm adding plenty of outside stuff.. 17" Hummer rims going on after paint is done, sits on 33's but going up to 35's. fab'in bumpers front and rear.. Anyone know how to get flames to come out of an exhaust? HAHA. but right now im thinking of inside.. I have all carpet torn out, seats out.. headliner..all plastic.. out! Once I figure out exactly how many speakers I want to fit in I'll start building the center console,dash, and box.




Posted By: godblessdremil
Date Posted: January 07, 2006 at 10:58 PM
The way most flame exhaust works is that inject propane into the exhaust and the heat just ingnites that. But check the law where ya live, might be illegal i know it is in my state.




Posted By: speedwayaudio1
Date Posted: January 07, 2006 at 11:59 PM

I'll put in my 2 cents. Before you go to crazy on amps and subs and all, you need to think about the very best head unit you can afford.



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Posted By: jsesterly
Date Posted: January 08, 2006 at 12:51 AM

speedwayaudio1 wrote:

 very best head unit you can afford.

true, I was looking at the Kenwood kdc-x789, has 3 preamp outputs, aux in, 22 w 50 max x4. Figured that would be enough.. No?





Posted By: jsesterly
Date Posted: January 08, 2006 at 12:52 AM

godblessdremil wrote:

The way most flame exhaust works is that inject propane into the exhaust and the heat just ingnites that. But check the law where ya live, might be illegal i know it is in my state.

i was joking about that... well.. kinda. it would be neat. :)





Posted By: Blowntweeters
Date Posted: January 08, 2006 at 4:19 PM
jsesterly wrote:

Yeah HO alt is on the way.. have dual batteries already in it. Its a 6.2 diesel! haha. adding the 3rd battery for extra toys. I'm adding plenty of outside stuff.. 17" Hummer rims going on after paint is done, sits on 33's but going up to 35's. fab'in bumpers front and rear.. Anyone know how to get flames to come out of an exhaust? HAHA. but right now im thinking of inside.. I have all carpet torn out, seats out.. headliner..all plastic.. out! Once I figure out exactly how many speakers I want to fit in I'll start building the center console,dash, and box.
  there was a segment on trucks today about shooting flames from tail pipes. if you go to www.powerblocktv.com there is a how to on it.

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1974 ford pinto 4 15" punch Z power punch bd 1001 pioneer DEH-6700




Posted By: Blowntweeters
Date Posted: January 08, 2006 at 4:29 PM
as far as your needs with your system. get a good H/U which was already suggested and the kenwood kdc-x789 would work. also your speakers for the front doors. i would get a good set of componets.

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1974 ford pinto 4 15" punch Z power punch bd 1001 pioneer DEH-6700





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