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How to make Sound Deadener?

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Topic: How to make Sound Deadener?

Posted By: jl_jeep19
Subject: How to make Sound Deadener?
Date Posted: January 09, 2006 at 5:09 PM

i was wondering if anybody knew how to make sound deadener ?



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Posted By: kirktcashalini
Date Posted: January 09, 2006 at 6:46 PM
yeah you dish out hundreds, maybe thousands for dynamat, or search ebay for slightly less expensive stuff that is probably just as good. posted_image

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Posted By: jfunk06
Date Posted: January 09, 2006 at 7:00 PM
Basicly consists of asphalt, rubber type material, aluminum cover, or a combination of all of them.  Basicly, you can find a less expensive way that works for you, or spend about 120% of your audio budget on deadening

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93' GMC Safari XT




Posted By: electrostatic
Date Posted: January 09, 2006 at 7:26 PM
is your goal to reduce road noise, panel vibrations or both? as a general rule increasing mass lowers resonant frequency, as does increasing rigidity of panels. ensuring your weatherstripping is in good shape will help with road noise.




Posted By: memphis11223344
Date Posted: January 10, 2006 at 10:15 AM
you can go to your local home depo or lowes. they have this stuff that they use on your air conditioning lines so they reduce moister. its like a tar like matrial. its very cheap and does the job great. i have a 03 durango and i used it on my roof and back panals and it works like a dream. huge difference. i think i paid like 70 bucks for everything. deff try that before spending an arm and leg on dynamat. theres this other stuff called b-quite you can find it on ebay its real cheap to and its the same stuff.

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Posted By: speedwayaudio1
Date Posted: January 10, 2006 at 10:19 AM
Spray on truck bed lining works very well.

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Posted By: stevdart
Date Posted: January 10, 2006 at 11:12 AM
jl_jeep19, if you were capable of manufacturing your own you wouldn't be asking how to do it on an internet forum.  Buy it like everybody else does.

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Posted By: flynntech
Date Posted: January 10, 2006 at 4:57 PM
I would agree, people have been using 'peel'n seal' forever. Moat of that stuff will do the trick. Dynamat is nice, but for the money it's a little overboard.




Posted By: downstarinc
Date Posted: January 10, 2006 at 10:29 PM
get a job at best buy, employee discount for dynamat is amazing...

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Posted By: memphis11223344
Date Posted: January 11, 2006 at 9:58 AM
yea it is. i do the in the mobile install at best ive been there for 3 years and for a x-threme bulk pack its only like 34.87 when normaly its 93.99. but if you dont want to go that route then go on ebay and type in dynamat and get this stuff called b- quite it works like a charm. just make sure yo uhave a heat gun

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MECP first class installer




Posted By: haemphyst
Date Posted: January 11, 2006 at 10:45 AM
I used a water soluable putty-like roof sealer from Lowe's. It comes in a white bucket from the AC installation and accessories aisle - like 5 pounds for 6 bucks. (Don't bother trying to look it up on their website, as the Lowe's website is the biggest turd I have ever seen, as far as search capabilities.) It's white, fibrous, sticks to ANYTHING (permanently), cleans up with water, and is non water soluable once dried. Dump it a bigger bucket, and mix in silica sand - A 100 pound bag of that'll cost ya like 3 dollars... I used a 50/50 (by volume) mixture, and it works like a champ!

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Posted By: jfunk06
Date Posted: January 11, 2006 at 4:50 PM

haemphyst wrote:

I used a water soluable putty-like roof sealer from Lowe's. It comes in a white bucket from the AC installation and accessories aisle - like 5 pounds for 6 bucks. (Don't bother trying to look it up on their website, as the Lowe's website is the biggest turd I have ever seen, as far as search capabilities.) It's white, fibrous, sticks to ANYTHING (permanently), cleans up with water, and is non water soluable once dried. Dump it a bigger bucket, and mix in silica sand - A 100 pound bag of that'll cost ya like 3 dollars... I used a 50/50 (by volume) mixture, and it works like a champ!

Can you further explain this?  Where you put it, its strength when dried.  Did you use it for deadening, or for giving your panels ridgity?

For putting more mass into my panels, i use "Great Stuff" brand expandable foam.  I have a van so ive already gone through about 20cans, but for a car, just putting it in some problematic places, youlle be happy with the results.  Its usually 4-5dollars a can.  You can also use a Green Can brand from Wal-Mart, which was only 3 dollars a can. 



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Posted By: customcarchris
Date Posted: January 11, 2006 at 5:34 PM
Go to raammat.com and get some of that.

I searched forever to find the right stuff and ended up buying this. It's rubber backed, not tar, so it doesn't smell, and it sticks like mad! You actually need to make sure you want it on something before you put it on. Some paint thinner will dissolve it and release it, but I haven't tried that, only to clean my tools.

Expanding foam helps to fillthe empty spaces that can cause wind whistling and things like that, so you can put that in your rails and such.

I wouldn't recommend truck bed coating, it does not have enough mass to it to make that much of a difference that this other stuff will, I had it on my doors first and still had to go with the raammat.




Posted By: robdunstan
Date Posted: January 24, 2006 at 3:36 AM

if you are looking for some cheap alternatives, then try these solutions:

a dynamat replacement is to simply use roofing shingles applied with roofing tar.  this is all dynamat is,  dynamat is just in a sheetform with an adhesive backing.

to silence road noise, use carpet padding (yes, the stuff under the carpet in your house). install it under your factory carpet with the bonded side up ( one side will have a clothlike clear webbing attached to the foam and the other side will not).  i actually used this method to quiet a notoriously loud mustang that i competed with many years ago.





Posted By: 6061dyson
Date Posted: January 25, 2006 at 7:19 PM
stevdartwrote:

jl_jeep19, if you were capable of manufacturing your own you wouldn't be asking how to do it on an internet forum. Buy it like everybody else does.

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With all respect as you are a Platinum member, don't stamp on the guy's balls to be adventurous! He could be a genius for all we know! posted_image




Posted By: 88_red_dakota
Date Posted: January 25, 2006 at 7:42 PM

memphis11223344 wrote:

yea it is. i do the in the mobile install at best ive been there for 3 years and for a x-threme bulk pack its only like 34.87 when normaly its 93.99. but if you dont want to go that route then go on ebay and type in dynamat and get this stuff called b- quite it works like a charm. just make sure yo uhave a heat gun

ok, it looks like im going the b quiet route. What do you need a heat gun for? For working it in the corners?





Posted By: firstrax
Date Posted: January 25, 2006 at 9:34 PM




Posted By: veovius
Date Posted: January 26, 2006 at 7:03 PM
My friend's got rolls and rolls of this neoprene mat stuff, he says he used it to deaden his old pickup, I wonder if would be good enough to deaden my taillights?  The mat's about 1/8" thick, i think





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