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Topic: New Subs, Under $100 each

Posted By: crazyman7515
Subject: New Subs, Under $100 each
Date Posted: January 12, 2006 at 6:20 PM

I am new to the forum. My birthday is right around the corner and im gonna be 18. I have a 1995 nissan 240sx and i have it off the road for the winter so i can work on it and drive my truck. For my birthday i want two either 12 or 15 inch subs for the trunk. I would like them to be under 100 each. I was looking at 12in Kicker CompVR's and 15 inch Audiobahn AW151T 's. But i am open to any other brand sub or model so any suggestion is welcome. I plan on powering them with a BOSS RT2500D Riot. RMS of 900W at 4 OHM's and 1500W at 2 OHM's, so 450 to each and 750 to each respectivily. I read a great review that this was a great Budget amp. Maybe this review was wrong and I am open to input as to another sub 200 dollar amp that can push tha kind of power. Also should i be looking for 2 OHM or 4 OHM subs? And should i be looking at a 1 OHM stable Amp? THanks for everyones help i really appreciate it!!

P.S is Ike Sound a good place to order from? and is there another cheap site im missing?



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Posted By: kirktcashalini
Date Posted: January 12, 2006 at 6:45 PM
step one, stop looking at audiobahn. then look for quality amps with CEA 2006 certifications. a good CEA-2006 cert. amp with 500 RMS watts will probably sound better than those amps you are looking for with 2000ish watts. its really alot of preference, and it is hard telling you what to get because i dont know if you want to set off car alarms when you pass, and get all the kids looking at your car as it rattles apart driving down the road, or if you want a good quality sound replication. just keep lookin around.

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99 Blazer LT.   Yellow Top. Big 3. Infinity Kappa Speakers All Around. Jensen CD/DVD flip out. 2 Infinity Kappa Perfect 12DVQs powered by a Alpine PDX600.1 (in one custom box, building a FG box)




Posted By: crazyman7515
Date Posted: January 12, 2006 at 6:56 PM
Good quality sound replication is more towards what i am looking at, but turning it up alittle everyonce in awhile to impress the ladies wouldn't hurt either. would two 12 in CompVR's be good for the money im looking to spend and the kind of bass im looking to create? I mean i don't even listen to rap, alittle every once in a while, a good CD of mine will contain about 2 rap songs, so its not like i go around "thumping" everywhere. Ikesounds has a refurbished Orion 6002 in my price range.  Which is 600 at 4 ohms, so 300 to each sub, is that enough? especially since eventually i could get another and run 600 to each, or since that is over their RMS 1200 divided by another 12 which im sure i could get eventually.

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Posted By: crazyman7515
Date Posted: January 12, 2006 at 6:57 PM
https://ikesound.com/product-product_id/2169 they actually have a refurbished 8002 for the same price, and 400 to each sub at 4 ohms is almost perfect and im my price range. What do you guys feel about refurbished? anyone ever bough refurbished from Ikesound? Thanks for your help

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Posted By: kirktcashalini
Date Posted: January 12, 2006 at 7:11 PM
I dont know much about orion, but if you dont listen to ram, a REAL RMS of 800 will be huge. i do listen to some rap, and i have a 600RMS amp that is more than ample for me. it is heard outside of the vehicle, and will set off car alarms, but its really up to you. comp VRs are alright subs from what i have heard even though i am not a big kicker they are rated at 400RMS watts, so 600 would be a good match for them...

if sound quality is a priority you might want to up the range to 200 a sub, and only run one sub. you will loose some power, but if you could get a better sub, that can handle more power, it would equal out for the most part.

can someone else tell this guy how orion is, i wish i knew as well.

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99 Blazer LT.   Yellow Top. Big 3. Infinity Kappa Speakers All Around. Jensen CD/DVD flip out. 2 Infinity Kappa Perfect 12DVQs powered by a Alpine PDX600.1 (in one custom box, building a FG box)




Posted By: crazyman7515
Date Posted: January 12, 2006 at 7:38 PM
Alright what about 2 alpine Type Rs 2 OHMS hooked up to a Orion 8002 running mono 800watts RMS at 4 OHMS? So 400 watts to each Type R, if the subs are dual voice coil 2 ohms, than it can run at 4 ohms right? and a dual 4 can run at 2 or 8?

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Posted By: kirktcashalini
Date Posted: January 12, 2006 at 8:02 PM
yes you can run a single dual 2 ohm at 1 or 4, a single dual 4 ohm at 2 or 8....

however when you run dual 2 ohm subs, you will run 2 ohms, and if you run dual 4 ohm subs you will run it at 1 or 4 ohms. if you have the choice go with dual 2 ohm subs. odds are the amp you get will run at 2 ohms. miiight be able to run at one. but if not you will be forced to run the system at 4 ohms if you get 2 dual 4 ohm subs. Type R's are pretty good i think most people would say. especially for your price range they look like a good choice

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99 Blazer LT.   Yellow Top. Big 3. Infinity Kappa Speakers All Around. Jensen CD/DVD flip out. 2 Infinity Kappa Perfect 12DVQs powered by a Alpine PDX600.1 (in one custom box, building a FG box)




Posted By: kirktcashalini
Date Posted: January 12, 2006 at 8:02 PM
yes you can run a single dual 2 ohm at 1 or 4, a single dual 4 ohm at 2 or 8....

however when you run dual 2 ohm subs, you will run 2 ohms, and if you run dual 4 ohm subs you will run it at 1 or 4 ohms. if you have the choice go with dual 2 ohm subs. odds are the amp you get will run at 2 ohms. miiight be able to run at one. but if not you will be forced to run the system at 4 ohms if you get 2 dual 4 ohm subs. Type R's are pretty good i think most people would say. especially for your price range they look like a good choice

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99 Blazer LT.   Yellow Top. Big 3. Infinity Kappa Speakers All Around. Jensen CD/DVD flip out. 2 Infinity Kappa Perfect 12DVQs powered by a Alpine PDX600.1 (in one custom box, building a FG box)




Posted By: crazyman7515
Date Posted: January 12, 2006 at 8:14 PM
Alright thanks, it looks like im going to get two Alpine SWR-1222D 12" Type-R Series Subwoofer (2ohm + 2ohm) from etronics.com. And now all i need are some amp suggestions. I was thinking the Orion 8002, but it says 400 x 2 at 2 OHMS, or 800 x 1 at 4 ohms. So i would want to run it 400 to each sub seperately? It can't be bridged at 2 ohms? It doesn't matter either way. Any other options for a sub 200 dollar amp? what about a hi fonics? or audiobahn? Thanks

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Posted By: kirktcashalini
Date Posted: January 12, 2006 at 8:16 PM
get a mono amp. preferably a class D mono amp. simpler, and probably more adjustable for subwoofer frequencies. audiobahn is junk. i believe hi fonics is alright.

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99 Blazer LT.   Yellow Top. Big 3. Infinity Kappa Speakers All Around. Jensen CD/DVD flip out. 2 Infinity Kappa Perfect 12DVQs powered by a Alpine PDX600.1 (in one custom box, building a FG box)




Posted By: Alpine Guy
Date Posted: January 12, 2006 at 10:17 PM

Get the Hifonics TX1505D for $180 from ikesound, its 1000wrms at 2 ohm which would work perfect for those 2 SWR-1222D's.  In the future if you want to get even louder  and change up subs, you have the 1 ohm option on the amp which is 1500wrms.

Or the BX1605D $215, Or BX1505D  $189, or BX1205D $184



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2003 Chevy Avalanche,Eclipse CD7000,Morel Elate 5,Adire Extremis,Alpine PDX-4.150, 15" TC-3000, 2 Alpine PDX-1.1000, 470Amp HO Alt.




Posted By: crazyman7515
Date Posted: January 12, 2006 at 10:57 PM
Other than the BX1605D, the other three fit perfectly in my price range. So what is the difference between them? TX and BX1505D? 9 dollar difference same watts, what makes the BX worth 9 more dollars lol.And the BX1205 is 4 dollars more for less watts than the TX1505D. So which shouldi go with? the BX1505 for 190?

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Posted By: Alpine Guy
Date Posted: January 12, 2006 at 11:00 PM
Im pretty shure there all the same thing just different cosmetics, but i have never owned an hifonics brand product so i can't tell for shure.

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2003 Chevy Avalanche,Eclipse CD7000,Morel Elate 5,Adire Extremis,Alpine PDX-4.150, 15" TC-3000, 2 Alpine PDX-1.1000, 470Amp HO Alt.




Posted By: Alpine Guy
Date Posted: January 12, 2006 at 11:06 PM
From the Hifonics web site it looks like the TX series is the cheaper series and the BX series is the higer quality series of the bunch i say throw your money down on the BX1505D unless someone has something to say about the quality of such amplifier.

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2003 Chevy Avalanche,Eclipse CD7000,Morel Elate 5,Adire Extremis,Alpine PDX-4.150, 15" TC-3000, 2 Alpine PDX-1.1000, 470Amp HO Alt.




Posted By: boardinbum
Date Posted: January 13, 2006 at 1:23 AM
I would have to agree with Alpine Guy. I've owned a couple of Type R's and absolutely loved them. As for Orion, I've always thought of them as a pretty high quality company. I own one of their 4 channel amps and have never had any complaints about it (other than the max 5v input). But that amp you were looking at was a 2 channel amp. So if you bridged it for the 800 x 1 RMS, it's only stable down to 4-ohms.
And for the HiFonics, I haven't actually used them, but from what I've heard on this forum, people seem to consider them to be a good choice for a budget amp with lots of power.

I say give the HiFonics/Alpine setup a try. And remember to make sure to put whatever subs you end up with in the propper size enclosure.




Posted By: speedwayaudio1
Date Posted: January 13, 2006 at 4:09 AM
that amp will only do about 500wrms at 4 ohms. about 800 @ 2 ohms. I have a boss 3000d and it only puts out 1200 @ 2 ohms.no where close to the 1500 it claims. it's not that bad of a amp but, the power is overrated.

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Posted By: supradude
Date Posted: January 13, 2006 at 4:39 AM
I have a Hifonics 2200D. I'd recommend their amps pretty high for what they cost. I've had several Orion amps, but that was before they were bought out by Directed Electronics. I hear they are still good though. 

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Posted By: Blowntweeters
Date Posted: January 13, 2006 at 3:10 PM
take a look at the 2 channel amps at ikesound. there are some u s amps for $200 and under. and U S amps are quailty amps.

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Posted By: xentrix
Date Posted: January 13, 2006 at 4:16 PM
I can't voice opinion on the amps, but I had a pair of Audiobahn 6X9s, the specs read incredible, the build quality was amazing, cast baskets, huge magnets, titanium diaphram tweeters, butel roll edge blah blah $500 New Zealand.

..........sounded utterly awful!

They now reside in a wardrobe. I played around with them, added extra tweeters, tried biamping them. They were just downright unmusical.

Got burnt and learnt.

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Clarion HU Fusion FR4 Sony XM150 Boschman 6X4's Melton all weather 3ways 4 8" Audiophile subs in sealed box...and i'm havin a few problems.





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