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Forum Name: Car Audio
Forum Discription: Car Stereos, Amplifiers, Crossovers, Processors, Speakers, Subwoofers, etc.
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Topic: subs distort

Posted By: qmw54
Subject: subs distort
Date Posted: February 01, 2006 at 1:30 AM

i have a 99 chevy silverodo , pioneer deh 3700 mp head unit , sony xplod 1200 amp (200x2 rsm)  , two pioneer 350 watt max (100 watt normal) 10's. when i turn the vol. up the subs distort rather quickly  they do it even quicker on low bass and i have tweaked all the nobs as best as i can its still not sounding like it should. could it be the box ? could the box not be air tight ? sucky subs? not enuff power ? i dont kno this is where yall come in.

thanks qmw54




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Posted By: qmw54
Date Posted: February 01, 2006 at 1:58 AM

would stuffing the box help ?

what do you stuff the box with like what kind of batting (what is batting ?)





Posted By: willdkartunes
Date Posted: February 01, 2006 at 2:09 AM
What size box are you using and what type of Pioneer subs exactly are we talkin about?




Posted By: qmw54
Date Posted: February 01, 2006 at 2:13 AM
not sure on the size pretty sure its .95 or 1 cf . not sure on the sub model my brother gave them to me and all he told me was 100 normal 350 max 




Posted By: willdkartunes
Date Posted: February 01, 2006 at 2:24 AM
The box sounds right for that size truck. It depends on how long and how hard of abuse these subs have seen...you should invest in some better subs though. 100 watt rms subs aren't going to get you the bass response your looking for and you don't have to spend that much money either.




Posted By: DYohn
Date Posted: February 01, 2006 at 8:34 AM
willdkartunes comment is not accurate.  An enclosure should be sized for the speakers in it, not for the vehicle it's mounted in.  Find the model number of the subs and we can advise you on the proper enclosure for them.  You say your subs are rated at 100 watts RMS, but you are feeding them 200 watts RMS?  That is one problem, especially if your gain is set incorrectly.  Also, what kind of impedance load are you placing on the amp?  I'd be willing to bet it is your amplifier setup and not the enclosure at all.  And no, 'stuffing the box' will probably not help.  Also, there is no relation between the power rating of the speakers and whether they will have proper bass response.  The power rating of the speaker only tells you how much power they can handle, not how low or how loud they will play. 

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Posted By: qmw54
Date Posted: February 02, 2006 at 1:54 AM
i am new to this your probly right . impedance load what is that ?




Posted By: geepherder
Date Posted: February 02, 2006 at 1:02 PM

Impedance is the electical load connected to the amplifier (measured in ohm's).  Resistance is the opposition to current flow in a DC circuit (also measured in ohms).  Impedance is the opposition to current flow in an AC circuit (since audio signals are basically AC).  See what the power ratings of your amp is at what ohm load (two ohms, four ohms, etc.).  Also check what your subs are rated at- how much power they can handle and how many ohms (probably four).

Near the top of the screen to the left, look under Basics, click on Ohm's law and read up.  Also under Car Audio, click on Woofer Wiring.  This site has some great resources.



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Posted By: qmw54
Date Posted: February 02, 2006 at 3:16 PM

the ratings i put are for 4 ohm speakers and amp  so 100 watt normal  350 watt max 4 ohm  speakers  and 200x2 4 ohm amp





Posted By: stevdart
Date Posted: February 02, 2006 at 6:22 PM
What DYohn said...  You've got the wrong subs / amp combination.  Upgrade to subs that are rated at 200 watts continuous power handling (each) and then spend a day making sure the gain on the amp is set right.  What geepherder said...  Use the help info available on this site, including the posted_image Search function.

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Posted By: qmw54
Date Posted: February 02, 2006 at 7:40 PM
ok what are some good subs that will beat hard for that amp that will not break me ?




Posted By: qmw54
Date Posted: February 02, 2006 at 7:48 PM
oh i also forgot can i go like 100 watts higher on the speakers like 300 or 350 ?




Posted By: geepherder
Date Posted: February 02, 2006 at 8:29 PM

I like my Infinity Kappa Perfect 10's, but there are many good products out there.  That's an open-ended question though, because we don't know exactly how much "will not break me?".  I suggest listening first, then buy something you like that fits your budget.

If you're asking if you can feed your current subs more power, I wouldn't recommend it, because you'll probably fry them.  They're rated at 100 watts RMS you said, right?  Forget the max power ratings.



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Posted By: qmw54
Date Posted: February 03, 2006 at 2:16 AM

what i was trying to ask was is can i got for a 300 watt or 350 watt rms rated sub on my 200 watt rms amp??

my budget  is any where from 5$ to 150-200$ per sub can i get a good sub by good sub i mean hard hitting and good sound quality  for that ? and if so can you suggest any names  





Posted By: geepherder
Date Posted: February 03, 2006 at 7:43 AM

Yes, there's nothing wrong with feeding subwoofers less than their RMS power rating.

There are many subs out there that will fit your budget.  Stick with a name brand sub like- JL Audio, Kicker, Rockford, JBL, Infinity (and many others- not in any particular order).  While you will probably be limited to lower end stuff and mostly single voice coils, put in the proper enclosure, you can get satisfying results.



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Posted By: willdkartunes
Date Posted: February 04, 2006 at 2:13 AM
Two good subwoofers to consider:   Alumapro Alchemy 10s and Infinity perfect 10s. Both subs are very hard hitting and deliver great sound quality! Not extremely out of hand with the price neither.





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