very cheap sound system

alright, i had 2 audiobahn flame q 12s in a ported box pushed by two legacy predator supposedly 600rms, the audiobahns blew and im looking to buy two new subs, a dealer near here said that he could get me 2 12 hifonics for $250, would this be a good deal, when i raise 500 dollars more im going to buy a new amp anyway, im going through withdrawals of bass and i really need to get subs back in my car, if this is not a good deal, could you reccomend one that that i could ask the dealer about so he would be able to get me a warranty. i dont want to buy anything off the internet

what usually happens if you dont upgrade your alternator and your lights dim severely,

what is the worst that can happen

so you want to use subs that are 175 a piece with an amp that is $500?Maybe you should save and spend a moderate amount on both with your $750.Hifonics subs are decent, but it depends on which model.  Can you get that info for us to review?

The voltage fluctuations can actually damage the very expensive electronics that run your vehicle, if your constantly dropping the voltage below 12 volts your bound to fry something sooner or later. If your alternator can't keep up with your power consumption and you need to listen to the stereo loud, then you need to get a HO alternator to satisfy your electronics and your stereo will be much louder and clearer too if you feed it a constant 14* volts.

https://www.maxxsonics.com/hifonics/subs_brutus.html    new subs i want two so i dont have to buy a new box

the 12" dual 4 ohms

https://legacycaraudio.com/itempage.asp?model=LA2068   current amps i have 2 of them

https://www.maxxsonics.com/hifonics/amps_brutus.html      hopeful amp  the biggest one

my dealer said the subs were good for the money and the amp was good either way, he sells mostly memphis.

he said he could get me each sub for 125 a peice and the amp for 500

good deal?

will it blow?

how loud will it be and whats the quality gonna be like?

any suggestions are very very welcome, within the same price for the subs, because i cant afford the amp yet anyway, if theres a better cheaper amp please mention it. if theres better same priced subs definately mention it, ill ask him if he can order it for me.

Those subs will definitely blow if your going with a 2400watt amp! Those subs are only rated 600watt rms. That big 2000 watt amp by hifonics is a mono d amp and is even more overkill for those subs! I'm assuming you like Hifonics so you could go with the Hifonics Zxi 600 bridged @4 ohms 600 x 1. The only problem is you would need two of these amps. ( one for each sub ) That's  $540 bucks just for the two amps!

I personally would buy a better brand for a cheaper price... (2) Orion P series 12 inch dual 4 ohm subs for $110 a piece and an Orion 800watt 2-channel amp for $280 bucks. Parallel wire the subs dual voice coils to 2 ohm impedance. Not only will you save a lot of money, but I guarantee these subs will hit just as hard if not harder than those Hifonics. I also guarantee that these subs and amp will last in the long run over Hifonics too. You can beat this sub and amp for years and it won't fail you! (provided you hooked it up correctly) Go with the Orions! You won't be sorry you did.

thank you but i have another question

ive been tought that it is the amount of power you put into a sub that makes it hit harder, so youre saying that if i get a less power amp that it will hit harder then my 2 600rms amps, how many rms is that orion 800w 2 channel,  i want/need a system that will basically destroy any car that doesnt have more money in it then mine, also will i have to upgrade my alternator and add batteries, i can afford the wire, if this will hit just as hard you just saved my life because i have a guy that will buy those 2 amps for $400 and ill only have to raise like 50 bucks for little stuff hopefully

t-roy81 wrote:

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ive been tought that it is the amount of power you put into a sub that makes it hit harder,

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Whoever told you this is wrong.  There are many other factors besides power involved, including system efficiency, enclosure design, woofer Xmax, speaker sensitivity, and the actual installation into the vehicle.  I have seen a system hit over 140db with 20 watts.

t-roy, you've been asking many wide-ranging questions and that is good.  I hope you are learning something.  But now I highly recommend you choose a local shop and go lay down your money.  Work with a pro in your area.  Tell them what you want, show them how much you will spend, and let them put together a system that will suit you.  It's time for hands-on and for dollars to get spent!  Cheers.

Here is the link for that Orion 800watt amplifier

www.onlinecarstereo.com/CarAudio/ProductDetail.aspx?Productid=13476

The amp is $280 and the subs are $220 for both 12s. Thats a little more than you said you wanted to spend, but if you go this route you won't need subs or an amplifier for quite a while. You could keep this setup for many years and watch all your friends stuff blow up and just laugh! I don't care if you turn the volume all the way, they are still going to last. Those subs are loud too! Hook up everything correctly and you won't be dissapointed!

ok sweet is there any kind of warranty on that website?

if not if you can give me numbers i can bring them to the dealer here and he said he'd order it

btw why isnt that amp on the orion page?

i just had to pay a rather large ticket so im a little strapped for cash right now, my p.o.s. audiobahns blew and i have $400 and some change to spend on an amp and 2 12's: i already have the box and ampkit.

i just want something that will get right to the point of upgrading electrical, i dont want to have to do that, i have 4 gauge now but i can get wire for free pretty much.

i was just lookin for some help in deciding what to buy. the dealer here doesnt really want to order terrible brands because he doesnt want to lose money on me if it blows, so any help would be of great apretiation(sorry thats spelt wrong but you catch the drift) im really trying to steer away from internet purchases id rather order through the dealer

ive been shopping around and i found something i might be able to afford,

2 orion HP-12D4's 500 rms subs

Hifonics BXi 1206D 1200 rms amp

would that be any good?

would i need to upgrade my charging system

im looking for an spl system im putting it in a 96 lexus es 300,

what should i upgrade?

i have 2 legacy predator amps, supposedly running at 600 rms 2000 peak each, one to each sub

i dont want to upgrade my charging system but i will buy a cap. right now the lights dim drastically, will a cap do anything?

what farrad should i get.

well i have a friend with 2 1600 watt max MA audios hooked up to like 5 farrads i think and it stays at like 13.5 volts for like one or two songs and thats all ill really need any way. his is in a ford explorer and mine is going in a lexus es 300,

doesnt a capacitor hold power until it runs out? i dont understand how they do nothing; it seems like they should at least work for a while, until it runs out

how long will a cap last, i only want to play it loud to show off or whatever, otherwise ill just be playing it normal.

i really dont want to have to spend much money because i dont have any :( its my senior year and im playing lacrosse so i cant work.

t-roy81 wrote:

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none of this search for it in the top right bs, please just tell me, thank you

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Nope, you can use the Search button.

i found two mepmphis m3's 4 ohm svc for 400$ is that a good price?

does anybody have any legal ways to make some fast money, like around $500 so i can buy those and a capacitor, i know i know, band aid, its cheap and thats what  i need now, cheap

t-roy81 wrote:

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does anybody have any legal ways to make some fast money,

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Yea, it's called a job. 

if im looking for an spl system will the memphis m3s do it for me the 12's

how bout SQ

450w rms to each but im gonna turn it down dont worry

ok thanks you gave me the answer i was looking for raven, my subs blew and i dont have the money right now so im gonna try that and dee how it sounds and see if it is loud enough for me. i had 2 12s and i liked it i know tat it wont be anywhere close

We did an install the other day of 2 13w1v2d4 from JL in a ported enclosure in a 4 runner, running off some BS pioneer amp. It slammed, like stupid slammed for the amount of money he had, now only if i could talk him into upgrading door speakers.....

well how much could i get an alternator for and where, and how much would it be to get installed in a 96 lexus es 300, a cap is only 150 while the only alternators ive found have been like 300, its my senior year i work saturdays and sundays at dairy queen for 700 an hour, may 24th is my last day of school and i wold like to have my system before i leave for college