what is up with mtx.
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Topic: what is up with mtx.
Posted By: honomichl
Subject: what is up with mtx.
Date Posted: March 03, 2006 at 1:54 PM
I was just on the mtx website. They were comparing the L7 to the 8500 series. Everybody know that L7 will beat that 8500 series sub any day.They comparing voice size. The L7 was quite a bit smaller funny thing is it can beat the 8500 series.In loudness. Then they were also comparing the 9500 series sub to the W7. Can u guys believe that. I was to hear your input on what u guys think. Here the https://www.mtx.com/caraudio/headtohead/w7.cfm that is the one with the 9500 v.s. the W7 https://www.mtx.com/caraudio/headtohead/kickerHeadToHead.PDF L7 v.s. 8500 series ------------- you can't be ahead of the curb if you aren't LIVIN LOUD
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Posted By: Velocity Motors
Date Posted: March 03, 2006 at 2:01 PM
It's the number's game. In comparison with the number's the MTX sub is a better SPL subwoofer, but just like anything else, the equipment is only part of the equation. If you know what your doing and can use the information to your advantage, your going to be able to make the MTX subwoofer perform better than the JL sub. That doesn't mean that it will sound better or go lower, but it will perform as it's suppose to...... as an SPL subwoofer.
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Jeff
Velocity Custom Home Theater
Mobile Audio/Video Specialist
Morden, Manitoba CANADA
Posted By: DYohn
Date Posted: March 03, 2006 at 2:12 PM
Plus I will add that one should always take so-called head-to-head comparisons that are done by equipment manufacturers with a grain of salt. Look for tests done by third parties. ------------- Support the12volt.com
Posted By: forbidden
Date Posted: March 03, 2006 at 3:22 PM
It is all how gullible the person is at the same time. It is very easy for a manufacturer to do the Jedi Mind Trick to you the customer. If say you think that MTX is the shiznit, you are going to believe what they read, the if JL or Rockford or anyone put up similar info, you are going to read into it and come back with the same question. All equipment can do a superior job, it is all in how it is matched together and used for the task at hand. It took me abou 8 years before I could see the Jedi Mind Trick coming from the reps that were dealing with me every day, today, I am immune to it and can make far better choices for my customers based upon that.
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Top Secret, I can tell you but then my wife will kill me.
Posted By: tcss
Date Posted: March 03, 2006 at 3:42 PM
Very smart you are young Skywalker.
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There is no such thing as free installation!
Posted By: Ravendarat
Date Posted: March 03, 2006 at 4:46 PM
For what its worth I have done several installs using both the L7 and the 8500 and on SPL levels its a close race. MTX leads you to believe that its a run a way but its not. Now with that said the MTX cars I did WERE louder than the kicker cars but once again you have to take that with a grain of salt because the cars were not the same. They showed up to the same competitions so the mic was the same but the vehicles, amps, decks etc were all different so you cant hang your hat on the results. I can say that the MTX 8500, while being SPL subs, still sounded better than the kicker L7's did. As for the 9500 to the W7, the 9500 while rated to handle less power, seems to have a real world handling higher than the JL, but for sound quality, even a die hard mtx guy will probally tell you that the W7 is a better SQ sub. As for SPL though Ill go with the 9500 over the W7
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Posted By: Velocity Motors
Date Posted: March 03, 2006 at 6:34 PM
Heeheehee...... Jedi Mind Trick. Good one Rob.
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Jeff
Velocity Custom Home Theater
Mobile Audio/Video Specialist
Morden, Manitoba CANADA
Posted By: honomichl
Date Posted: March 03, 2006 at 9:14 PM
I think it is amusing on how they compare there equipment to others. ------------- you can't be ahead of the curb if you aren't LIVIN LOUD
Posted By: Ravendarat
Date Posted: March 03, 2006 at 10:40 PM
I didnt even notice your sig line to start with. No wonder you were so offended that MTX said their 8500 would stand ahead of the L7
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double-secret reverse-osmosis speaker-cone-induced high-level interference distortion, Its a killer
Posted By: no-good-ideas
Date Posted: March 04, 2006 at 2:58 PM
Subs are like anything else in the world, everybody wants u to think they have the best, but in reality its all about what u want, personally I have 2 12'' L7s in my car and I think they are awesome, but a friend of mine has 2 12'' 9500s in his and he think his is better. Point being it doesn't matter what the companys think just what YOU think.
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Its better to let people think your an idiot rather than to open your mouth and prove it
Posted By: willdkartunes
Date Posted: March 05, 2006 at 2:40 AM
Regardless of what someone "thinks", db is what does the talking.... I've said this in many other threads and this thread is no different. It's all in the setup! The brand doesn't matter if the setup is wrong. To say that one brand is better or louder than another is just rediculous. If you want to believe what MTX says, then so be it. If your not a believer, then that's cool too. I say everyone should stop arguing about the brand thing, and just enjoy music. For honomichl - You know what you need to do? Whenever you hear or read something like that, you should just get on the freeway, blast your Kicker subs and just laugh! 
Posted By: Steven Kephart
Date Posted: March 05, 2006 at 11:04 AM
no-good-ideas wrote:
Subs are like anything else in the world, everybody wants u to think they have the best, but in reality its all about what u want, personally I have 2 12'' L7s in my car and I think they are awesome, but a friend of mine has 2 12'' 9500s in his and he think his is better. Point being it doesn't matter what the companys think just what YOU think.
Yes, but the trick is to determine which brand fits your needs better. Every brand designs their subs for different goals. If you want a loud sub, then the L7 or MTX subs might be a good choice. But if you are looking for something with really good deep bass extention then definitely look else where. The high Q on those subs work great for peaked responses, but deny any low end extention in a decent sized enclosure.
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