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Topic: louder, truck or car?

Posted By: smokinsmitty
Subject: louder, truck or car?
Date Posted: March 04, 2006 at 1:48 PM

ok lets say u have the exact same system! same box and everything but one setup is in a truck and one set up is in a 4dr car with the fold down back seats. who's set up will be louder and hit harder?

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1 15" Memphis Mojo,
Memphis 16-mc1000D amp,
Audiopipe 4gauge mp kit, Pioneer DEH4700MP head unit.
2002 Yamaha 660R Raptor
Yamaha FZR600 crotch rocket
Sea Doo XP800
Sea Doo Spi



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Posted By: jvillefinest
Date Posted: March 04, 2006 at 4:16 PM

car...

i had 3 12 infinity kappa perfects with a jbl 1200.1bp amp and when i had my 1996 honda accord i was at 139 db and when i moved all the equipment to my 2000 chevrolet s10 (same box, same amp, same subs) it was 136 db, but seemed louder to the ear....weird how it works but thats the way it is.



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2007 Acura TSX
SQ setup in the works




Posted By: t-roy81
Date Posted: March 04, 2006 at 6:06 PM
ive got a friend with two kicker L7's like '04s i think, and another friend with 2 L7s '05s, ones in a crown vic, and the others in a ford explorer,the vic has a soundstream 2000 rms mono amp, and the explorer has 2 MA audio amps at like 900rms each, both have the exact same box. the power differance isnt very much, but the explorer hits, if i had to guess, 6 decibles harder, how could that be, both have 1/0 gauge wire with 5 farads of cap.

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Posted By: ss-installer
Date Posted: March 04, 2006 at 6:41 PM
hatchbacks and SUVs usually hit harder because the vehicle acts as an enclosure and there is less restriction in sound waves to reach the front.

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Posted By: t-roy81
Date Posted: March 04, 2006 at 6:43 PM
well ok but right above it says a truck hits less then his car????? that is why im confused

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Oh Man Theres Troy




Posted By: ss-installer
Date Posted: March 04, 2006 at 7:02 PM
a ford explorer is not a truck.

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Posted By: t-roy81
Date Posted: March 04, 2006 at 7:29 PM
i wasnt getting nasty man, cmon... but in an explorer there is also no restriction on the sound waves correct?

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Oh Man Theres Troy




Posted By: ss-installer
Date Posted: March 04, 2006 at 8:56 PM
a pickup (regular cab) doesnt carry sound well inside the cab because of the airflow restrictions (back of the seat). an SUV or hatchback echoes the sound and helps generate DBs.

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Posted By: KarTuneMan
Date Posted: March 05, 2006 at 1:51 AM

A buddy of mine had 2 DD 12's (3500 series) 2 crossfire 1600D's 2 Memphis coax (multisynce) H.O. alt. 2 batteries.

The subs were in a 9 cubic foot box in the bed.. with a cut thru, and a tonaue cover 153.6db.....

A 94 mazda standard cab...... cars are louder than trucks....where do you put a 9 cubic foot box in ANY car?



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Posted By: willdkartunes
Date Posted: March 05, 2006 at 1:58 AM

What if the truck isn't a regular cab and it is an extended cab truck or a full-cab? I definitely think it would be louder then. I know this is probably a little impractical to most people's situations, but it's just an example.

In SPL, when you hear of someone taking out the back seats and putting a wall of speakers in their vehicle. You don't hear about them putting the wall way in the back do you? Of course not, because that would be pointless! They would put the wall right behind the driver and passenger seats. This is kind of the same idea I would think for a truck. (excluding the reg. cab of course) With the speakers right behind the seats with the CORRECT setup I would think it would be louder in a truck.

The reasons for the loss in db stated above could be a number of things. My first guess would be this. He said he took it from a car and put it in a truck, with the same exact amplifier, subwoofers, and enclosure. Well, he originally setup his system to be played in the car he had. When he switched vehicles the setup could  have possibly been hindered. (in this case a loss of 3 db) If he was to change enclosures he could possibly make up that lost 3 db, and might even be able to yeild an increase in db. Many other factors could have played their part in this loss of db, but that's the first one that comes to mind.

I've heard a lot of hatchback style vehicles as well as SUV's. In fact, some of the loudest systems I've heard were in a hatchback, but then again I've never had a friend that went all out on a truck.... I'll soon change that!lol! posted_image I set my goals high, and right now I'm working on a pretty impossible task. I'm aiming to compete in SPL with only one ten inch subwoofer in a truck. Sounds crazy, but I think I might just be able to hit the 140 db mark. (I'm hoping for higher than that, but lets not push it!) Anything is possible these days, right?

I understand the effect a hatchback and SUV give on a sub. The echo thing is very true, but if the setup is right, and only if the setup is right, I think a system might just be capable of hitting harder in a truck. I always say, setup is everything. The brand doesn't matter at all if the setup is incorrect! It's all about the setup. With the correct setup in mind, I think the truck would be the winner. Then again, I own a truck, so did you actually think I was going to go with the car? posted_image





Posted By: jvillefinest
Date Posted: March 06, 2006 at 10:51 AM
The question was car vs. truck. Now if you throw in SUV and hatchbacks then its a little different. SUVs are usually easier to produce higher SPL numbers because they are bigger and have more room for the sound wave to create itself. But again like i said it might seem louder in a truck but numbers wise it usually isnt...atleast some of the ones i have seen.

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2007 Acura TSX
SQ setup in the works




Posted By: jeffchilcott
Date Posted: March 06, 2006 at 12:22 PM
I have found it to be easier to get louder with a hatchback car the easiest.....from there I would still tkae a trunk car over a truck.    I have messed with a mazda extended cab for quite awhile and I really dont like the way they build pressure.

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2009 0-1000 Trunk WR 154.0DB 2009 1001+ Trunk WR
2007 USACI World Champion
2007 World Record
2006 USACI Finals 2nd Place




Posted By: arrow12
Date Posted: March 06, 2006 at 6:59 PM

wildkartunes...  Not being mean or anything, but the subs don't go all the way in the back because then there would be no air space.  The subs need a box of some sort and air to be a cushion.  The air has to fit the requirements too.



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Posted By: willdkartunes
Date Posted: March 06, 2006 at 11:13 PM

That is true that the original question refers to trucks vs. cars. Since I think that trucks could certainly compete on the level of SUV's and hatchbacks then that kinda answers the question.  Unless someone was to do something radical with a car.... exactly what I like.... putting something insane that is just so hard to fit in such a small area!  

=example= 

I saw a Honda Civic a couple of days ago with eight 15 inch subs in it! That's what I consider to be radical!!!

I do understand that subs need airspace! I was saying for instance with an SUV, they don't put the sub wall in the second row of seats, or third for that matter.... it's right behind the front seats. The 1999 Bass Mekanik Blazer is a perfect example. Big vehicle with plenty of room. And where are the PPI subs located? Not way in the back cuz that wouldn't make sense. (and yes there is plenty of air space back there) The wall is again right behind the seats where it belongs....

There sure is a lot of people who don't like trucks for SPL. Not surprising though. There isn't a lot of room, that's true. No room is what makes it challenging! It would be too easy for me if I had tons of room to work with!  I guess if I was rich or sponsored then hell yeah I'd go and get me a big SUV and let my imagination run wild! Until that happens.... it looks like it's my duty to put trucks back on the map of SPL competition! posted_image It is possible and I will prove it very soon.  Look for me up and coming shortly in shows! One very crazy guy with one very crazy truck!  *willlllldkartunes*






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