two tweeters? 98 integra
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Topic: two tweeters? 98 integra
Posted By: pbkev20
Subject: two tweeters? 98 integra
Date Posted: March 24, 2006 at 1:07 PM
i am installing new speakers in my 1998 acura integra. they are all 6.5. but the front have seperate tweeters. I have a pair of aftermarket 6.5 with built in tweeters can i install these in the front? then i will have two tweeters? also there are 4 wires going to the front speakers why is this dont i just need two? does it have something to do with the seperate tweeter? thanks guys
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Posted By: rrcustom
Date Posted: March 24, 2006 at 1:14 PM
You have four wires going to the front speakers because:
Left Front Speaker:
1 White Wire +
1 Black Wire -
Right Front Speaker:
1 Red Wire +
1 Black Wire -
Note: (Wire Colors were just an example)
It should be just a simple install. Remove old speakers, wire up the new ones, and put everything back together.
Make sure you look up the wiring colors for your vehicle.
Posted By: haemphyst
Date Posted: March 24, 2006 at 2:53 PM
I would NEVER place two tweeters in a front stage, ESPECIALLY if accurate reproduction is your goal. If you are looking for output, put 12 up there, but for accuracy, only use one tweeter. You have co-axial speakers, so I would place them into the door, where the woofer is now, disconnect the OEM tweeter completely, and go with it like that. However:
As for you second question: My guess would be this: Premium Sound? If so, and there is an amp, there will likely be dedicated amplifier channels for each discrete driver in the doors... 2 wires each, 2 speakers - 4 wires. Only a guess, but with you description of the four wires and a separate tweeter and woofer... yeah, premium sound system. Herein lies the issue. IF your premium sound system has dedicated channels, with crossovers built in, the co-ax speakers will NOT get a full-range signal, and you might be looking at leaving the OEM tweeters connected anyway. If this happens, you may THEN experience a sensitivity mismatch, and your whole system will likely be over bright, or possibly not bright enough. Premium systems with discrete drivers are rarely easy to upgrade... Many issues can arise, as you can tell...
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Posted By: pbkev20
Date Posted: March 24, 2006 at 3:45 PM
ok im going to leave the oem woofers and tweeters in there for now and get some $$ and just get some component woofer and tweeters. But i still have a question about the wiring.
when i remove the woofer there are 4 wires coming from the speaker itself. my guess is that two of these are going to the tweeter but not sure. any suggestions.
Posted By: rrcustom
Date Posted: March 24, 2006 at 3:47 PM
possibly because it could be DVC (dual voice coil)
positive and negative for one coil
positive and negative for the other
please be more specific
Posted By: pbkev20
Date Posted: March 24, 2006 at 3:58 PM
ok to be more specific: when i remove the oem speakers in the front they only have two connectors on the speakers but there are 4 wires coming from the door( seems like 2 wires the the positive and 2 to the negative).
if i buy a component system. i see that most come with crossovers? does my integra already have a crossover? when it comes to general audio stuff i have a good idea but this is my first time messing with component systems. thanks for all the help
Posted By: rrcustom
Date Posted: March 24, 2006 at 4:01 PM
Alright when you say four wires...
Do you mean there are actually four wires plugged into ONE speaker?
Posted By: pbkev20
Date Posted: March 24, 2006 at 4:03 PM
Yes. there is a molex connector connected to the speaker. going into the connector is 4 wires.
Posted By: rrcustom
Date Posted: March 24, 2006 at 4:06 PM
Alright good to know.
You were right on your thought of there being two POSITIVES and two NEGATIVES.
BECAUSE it is a dual voice coil component speaker.
A standard speaker has one voice coil therefore it needs one positive and one negative
A dual voice coil needs double the power because it has double the voice coils. (obviously)
So it has two positives and two negatives wires.
Those are what the four wires are.
Posted By: pbkev20
Date Posted: March 24, 2006 at 4:10 PM
but it seems to me that the two POSITIVE are connected together? if what you are saying is true and my oem speakers are dual coil wouldnt they have 4 connections on the speakers?
thanks i am learning a lot from this
Posted By: rrcustom
Date Posted: March 24, 2006 at 4:11 PM
Have you located your OEM factory amp yet?
Posted By: pbkev20
Date Posted: March 24, 2006 at 4:12 PM
no idea where that is. any suggestions?
Posted By: rrcustom
Date Posted: March 24, 2006 at 4:15 PM
locating this would help lots on figuring out your wiring concerns...
I would advise lookin underneath the dash passenger side
98 integra? wha model?
Posted By: pbkev20
Date Posted: March 24, 2006 at 4:16 PM
1998 acura integra LS
Posted By: rrcustom
Date Posted: March 24, 2006 at 4:18 PM
1998 Acura Integra Stereo Information
Constant 12V+ Blue/White
Switched 12V+ Yellow/Red
Ground Black
Illumination RED / Black
Dimmer n/a
Antenna Trigger n/a
Antenna Left Rear
Front Speakers 5 1/4" Doors
Left Front (+) Blue/Green
Left Front (-) Gray/Black
Right Front (+) RED / Green
Right Front (-) BROWN / Black
Rear Speakers 6" x 9" Rear Deck
Left Rear (+) Blue / YELLOW
Left Rear (-) Gray/White
Right Rear (+) RED / Yellow
Right Rear (-) BROWN / White
Posted By: stevdart
Date Posted: March 24, 2006 at 8:46 PM
You have some good information from posting this thread. But I wouldn't count on the OEM woofer being a dual voice coil driver, as you questioned by noticing that the two wires were connected to one terminal. OEM systems are a PITA! Period. Try to upgrade them, try to work with their goofy engineering, and hate yourself in the morning. Replacement of all OEM system components is the best and easiest solution, including running new speaker wires to your new components from the amplifier. Tape the ends of the OEM wires and leave them. They have served their purpose long enough. Time to retire. ------------- Build the box so that it performs well in the worst case scenario and, in return, it will reward you at all times.
Posted By: DYohn
Date Posted: March 24, 2006 at 9:07 PM
If your door speaker has four wires connected to it, yes it is possible the second set is connected to the dash tweeter in parallel. However, usually a connection like this does not happen at the speaker, but it is possible. Get out your trusty ohmmeter and run some continuity checks. ------------- Support the12volt.com
Posted By: rrcustom
Date Posted: March 25, 2006 at 12:10 PM
Man, I would just take all stock speakers out and put it components in. Like I had a setup with two 5 1/4" components up front and 6 1/2" in the back. It sounded real good. It was a four channel 600 Watt Pioneer Premier Amp and their REV series components. Going to do the same setup again in my new car def.
Posted By: rrcustom
Date Posted: March 25, 2006 at 5:15 PM
I would have been shocked if they were dual voice coils. :P
Posted By: pbkev20
Date Posted: March 25, 2006 at 5:35 PM
is there any way to tell maybe by looking at them.
Posted By: DYohn
Date Posted: March 25, 2006 at 5:45 PM
pbkev20 wrote:
is there any way to tell maybe by looking at them.
No, not really. You'll need to check continuity to see if it's the same wire going to the tweeter. ------------- Support the12volt.com
Posted By: DYohn
Date Posted: March 25, 2006 at 5:46 PM
rrcustom wrote:
I would have been shocked if they were dual voice coils.:P
That was never likely, actually.  ------------- Support the12volt.com
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