ground problem?
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Forum Name: Car Audio
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Topic: ground problem?
Posted By: trexxx8739
Subject: ground problem?
Date Posted: March 27, 2006 at 12:22 AM
I have 2 4ohm speakers running parallel to a 2 ohm stable amp. when I turn on my car I hear a thump. And when the volume is turned down I hear a hum sound. I have messed with the gain many times. Its only turn up maybe a quarter of the way. bass is deep at 5 on my stereo and the more I turn it up my highs kick in but it seems like I lose bass. And I mean I can feel that I lose it. Its a new car and its factory stereo so i'm running high inputs. also the subs stopped working last week so I figured a wire came off inside the box which was the problem but the wierd thing was that the ground from the box to the speaker is the one that came off. it looked corroded and the plastic around the clip was black like it was burned. I replaced it with larger speaker wire. any suggestions?
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Posted By: coppellstereo
Date Posted: March 27, 2006 at 1:13 AM
Are they both 4ohm or 2ohm speakers?
Do you know what ohmage your subs are running?
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Posted By: Steven Kephart
Date Posted: March 27, 2006 at 1:14 AM
I'd recommend checking all your connections. Make sure there aren't any bare wires that can short together or ground out. Also be sure the connections are solid. The thump is a turn on pop that is common with cheaper amplifiers. Higher end amplifiers will delay the output stage on turn-on to preven that noise from being produced. Please list the brands and model numbers of all your equipment (subs, amp, and hi/low converter) as well as listing the size and type of enclosure you are using.
Posted By: trexxx8739
Date Posted: March 27, 2006 at 2:16 AM
audiobahn abp12t 4 ohm speakers 400 rms each box is 14-1/2"H x 30-1/2"W x 15"D audiobahn 8000t amp 2 ohm stable 800 watts rms
Posted By: bdl666
Date Posted: March 27, 2006 at 4:06 AM
trexxx8739 wrote:
. bass is deep at 5 on my stereo and the more I turn it up my highs kick in but it seems like I lose bass. And I mean I can feel that I lose it. Its a new car and its factory stereo so i'm running high inputs.
You might want to turn off the loudness on the radio. That will prevent the bass from fading away when you turn up the volume. Also do you have the remote connected to the ignition? That might explain the thump when you turn on the car.
Posted By: trexxx8739
Date Posted: March 27, 2006 at 4:35 AM
don't have a loudness button on the stereo. and the remote is going to the same fuse for the stereo
Posted By: bdl666
Date Posted: March 27, 2006 at 5:22 AM
Exactly the amp is turning on when you turn the key. That means that the amp is turning on before the radio and it should be the other way around. As for the bass if your factory deck doesn't have a loudness button it might have some sort of built in eq to boost the bass when the volume is down. If that is not the case you might want to check your speakers to see if the tinsel lead is hitting the basket when you turn it up( It happened to my brother before). If it's hitting that might explain the burnt terminal and wire.
Posted By: trexxx8739
Date Posted: March 27, 2006 at 9:29 PM
another question. I had 2 12in fosgates with a punch amp. speakers were 200 rms each, amp was 400 rms. I'm running double that now and my lights dim but the bass is easily half of what the fosgate had at half the power i'm pushing now. Is that due to Fosgate being a much better speaker or what?
Posted By: coppellstereo
Date Posted: March 27, 2006 at 10:14 PM
what are the specs on what you are running now?
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Posted By: trexxx8739
Date Posted: March 27, 2006 at 11:54 PM
running 2- 12in Audiobahns 400 rms each with an Audiobahn 8000t amp - 800 watts rms @ 2ohms
Posted By: sick ca yukon
Date Posted: March 28, 2006 at 12:40 AM
I have a new truck with half the wattage of that system and for some reason my interior lights dim...
Posted By: trexxx8739
Date Posted: March 30, 2006 at 5:33 PM
trexxx8739 wrote:
another question. I had 2 12in fosgates with a punch amp. speakers were 200 rms each, amp was 400 rms. I'm running double that now and my lights dim but the bass is easily half of what the fosgate had at half the power i'm pushing now. Is that due to Fosgate being a much better speaker or what?
anyone?
Posted By: stevdart
Date Posted: March 30, 2006 at 6:11 PM
You could probably work up a better enclosure for those subs and increase the output. It's incredible how big of a role the box / airspace has with output. And there are other considerations why there is such a difference, as well. But trying to figure out how to fix a problem by remembering how a past setup performed will not go anywhere. You have to deal with the here and now. Comparisons are really only valid if both setups can be tested in the same time frame under controlled conditions. Memory doesn't serve well for controlled testing.
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