Pioneer Speaker 12"
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Printed Date: April 29, 2024 at 7:18 AM
Topic: Pioneer Speaker 12"
Posted By: doomsday123
Subject: Pioneer Speaker 12"
Date Posted: March 27, 2006 at 4:24 PM
I was looking at buying 2 of these woofers and was woundering if anyone had any experience with this model. https://www.pioneerelectronics.com/pna/product/detail/0,,2076_4059_153020663,00.html
Also, what amp would you suggest that is either Pioneer or Kenwood. Im not really familiar with how many watts should be pushed to a speaker and wanted to know what you guys thought. Thanks. -Dakota
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Posted By: doomsday123
Date Posted: March 27, 2006 at 4:25 PM
Also, if anyone else had a recommendation for 2 speakers that are either Pioneer or Kenwood that work really well I am open to that. Thanks.
Posted By: boardinbum
Date Posted: March 27, 2006 at 4:31 PM
Just out of curiosity, why are you only looking at Pioneer and Kenwood?
Posted By: doomsday123
Date Posted: March 27, 2006 at 5:35 PM
I have a friend in the business that is able to get me anything from these two companies at wholesale price.
Posted By: boardinbum
Date Posted: March 27, 2006 at 5:54 PM
Well if that's the case, I'd just save up and get one (or 2) of the higher end Pioneer subs.
Posted By: Aruman
Date Posted: March 27, 2006 at 8:44 PM
yep, do what boardinburn said, save up a little bit, and then get the higher end stuff( premier)
Posted By: doomsday123
Date Posted: March 28, 2006 at 9:19 AM
Why do you recommend going with the higher in stuff. Wouldnt 2 of these speakers hit harder than 1 higher end stuff or does the quality make that much of a difference? Thanks! -Dakota
Posted By: Velocity Motors
Date Posted: March 28, 2006 at 9:30 AM
Depnding on what you want from your system, those Pioneer subs will do fine. They are not SPL subwoofers, but will definitely add to your exisitng system and for a good price as well. I would go with a GM-D510M for an amplifier. Run the subs in 2 ohms and it will hit pretty hard. IMO you won't be eble to tell the difference between the Premiere sub and the normal Pioneer sub if you haven't had the opportunity to test each individually. ------------- Jeff
Velocity Custom Home Theater
Mobile Audio/Video Specialist
Morden, Manitoba CANADA
Posted By: doomsday123
Date Posted: March 28, 2006 at 9:34 AM
Ok, just a questions about the amp. The one you have recommended is a mono which to my understanding means it only has 1 channel. Is it possible to run 2 subs off of this amp or would I have to get 2 of them?
Posted By: doomsday123
Date Posted: March 28, 2006 at 10:23 AM
Posted By: Velocity Motors
Date Posted: March 28, 2006 at 10:53 AM
doomsday123 wrote:
Ok, just a questions about the amp. The one you have recommended is a mono which to my understanding means it only has 1 channel. Is it possible to run 2 subs off of this amp or would I have to get 2 of them?
The amp is 2 ohm stable and you can hook up as many subs as you want as long as you don't go below 2 ohms the amp will supply power to the subs. The Kenwood link you gave me is also a Class D monoblock amp which is 2 ohm stable. The only diff is the Kenwood has more power output than the Pioneer amp. ------------- Jeff
Velocity Custom Home Theater
Mobile Audio/Video Specialist
Morden, Manitoba CANADA
Posted By: lukeyn
Date Posted: March 28, 2006 at 10:55 AM
My cousin has the 2500watt ten in a ported enclosure with only a 240 watt amp running it and the sub bangs pretty good.
Posted By: doomsday123
Date Posted: March 28, 2006 at 1:43 PM
Ok well i have narrowed it down to 2 different amps and it is the KAC-9152D or the KAC-7252. I am planning on getting 2 of either THESE (KFC-W3514DVC ) or 2 of THESE (KFC-XW1202DVC) What do you think would be the best combination? Also I am planning on going with one of these 2 head units. Either the DPX501 or the KDC-MP732. If you have any opinions on either one of these I would love to hear it. Thanks.
Posted By: boardinbum
Date Posted: March 28, 2006 at 1:53 PM
Maybe it's just me, but the thought of buying a Kenwood sub scares me. I've seen their amps in action, and they don't seem too be bad - they get the job done. Howeber, I've also had first hand experience with Pioneer amps, and feel that they're higher quality. But the subs? Maybe someone with more first hand experience could chirp in here? I've never thought of Kenwood subs being in the same group as even Pioneer.
Posted By: xtremej
Date Posted: March 28, 2006 at 2:01 PM
I have a had good luck with pioneer subs. They seem pretty tough and sound decent, not an spl sub but for what they retail for they are pretty good. Never monkeyed with kenwood stuff much had 1 kenwood amp fry once. I have installed quite a few of the pioneer amps though no problems with recent models to date.
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Posted By: doomsday123
Date Posted: March 28, 2006 at 2:31 PM
Hehe thanks for the input. Ok well since you all have had much more experience than me ive got a task for you. With these 2 brands Kenwood and Pioneer, come up with a Low, Medium, and High level combination of Subs and Amps that you think work best together. Low should be lowest cost while still sounding decent, Medium should be the mid-ranged cost with a good sound quality, and High should be the expensive items that sound out of this world. Just a suggestion but it would really help me on the search for the right system for my vehicle. Thanks for everyone input on the subject!
Posted By: boardinbum
Date Posted: March 28, 2006 at 6:45 PM
It'd be a lot easier if you gave us an idea of your budget, and we could give you some suggestions.
Posted By: doomsday123
Date Posted: March 29, 2006 at 8:46 AM
Good idea. I am looking to spend around 800-1000.
Posted By: xtremej
Date Posted: March 29, 2006 at 9:55 AM
Thats a decent budget you should be able to get 2 dvc pioneers with a mono block amp installed. Check out your electrical system, the big three I don't think you'll need a huge alternator but I would make sure its in good shape as well as the battery. If those are in decent shape, sound deaden your trunk you'll be happy as your system will sound better. -------------
Posted By: doomsday123
Date Posted: March 29, 2006 at 1:10 PM
I have a 2001 Impala. I wasnt thinking that I would need to upgrade the big 3 or the alternator but im not sure. I will probably be getting a 1800watt mono block amp. Do you think that would call for an upgrade of the big 3 or the alternator?
Posted By: xtremej
Date Posted: March 29, 2006 at 1:52 PM
What kind of amp, some are greatly overated.
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Posted By: doomsday123
Date Posted: March 29, 2006 at 2:31 PM
Posted By: lildave2467
Date Posted: May 27, 2006 at 1:46 PM
The amp you have chosen is a mono amp as well most class D amps are. As Velocity Motors said get two 4 ohm subs and run them in parallel this will give you a 2 ohm load on your amp. The only problem that I see is that Pioneer dose not make a sigle 4 ohm sub any more except for there new Shallow-Mount Subwoofer. You could go with 2 sub that have dual 2 ohm voice coils but once again pioneer dose not make one except for their high end stuff. I have 1 12 pioneer 3004spl in a custom built box vented box with a JL E1800 and I'm hitting a lot harder then most people with 2 12's.
Posted By: Brianas
Date Posted: May 27, 2006 at 3:48 PM
I would like to offer you a suggestion I sell and install all these different models very good bang for the buck go for one premier ts-w3004spl and the gm-d510m amp and a large sealed box ( 1- 1.5 cu. ft.) i have been very impressed by this combo low frequency extension is phenominal would not recomend the 7150\7200 pio amps or kenwoods g/l Josh JB Customs -------------
Posted By: gavin9797
Date Posted: May 28, 2006 at 10:56 AM
In answer to your question about the mono amp. No you do not need 2 mono amps. (not saying the the other amp is a bad choice either.) Refer to www.bcae1.com and look for the heading series/paralell. This should give you the information you need to make your decision.
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