Alpine System?

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Topic: Alpine System?

Posted By: carguy411
Subject: Alpine System?
Date Posted: March 30, 2006 at 8:50 AM

im looking to redo my system
i want it to hit prettty hard but take up the smallest space possbile
i ran my friends systemm in my truck for a little it was 2-10" JL10w6v2 and a jl 1000 amp
hits prettty hard .
so i been lookin into alpine and seen these
https://www.alpine-usa.com/en/products/product.php?model=SWX-1042D

now should i get 1 or two and which amp
https://www.alpine-usa.com/en/products/product.php?model=MRD-M605

or
https://www.alpine-usa.com/en/products/product.php?model=MRD-M1005

i was thinking 1 usb and the 605 amp
thinkikng that it was equvelent to the jl w7??
cause i installed a few of those and they hit hard??
what do you recomend
only bought alpine HU's and things never any of the speaker components and amp so never heard them
thanks in advance

Replies:

Posted By: Velocity Motors
Date Posted: March 30, 2006 at 9:15 AM

IMO if you want a thumping system you should go with a MTX 7500 12" sub , the MTX Thunder 5601 amplifier . The subs in a vented enclosure is 2 ft3. If you want to go with 2 of those subs go with the MTX Thunder 7801and you will be very impressed I'm sure. The second scenario I will be running in a few of my customer's SPL vehicle where space is restricted.

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Jeff
Velocity Custom Home Theater
Mobile Audio/Video Specialist
Morden, Manitoba CANADA

Posted By: carguy411
Date Posted: March 30, 2006 at 9:26 AM

those look kool
but the main reason i asked wit hthe aline is cause i can controll it from my head unit without having to go under the rear seats in the truck.
are they noot good or hit the way i want them to.i guess i would sacarafice adjusting feature for a kick ass system
lol

Posted By: Velocity Motors
Date Posted: March 30, 2006 at 9:35 AM

I have an Alpine dealer in the next town to me and most of the customer's don't really care about the convenience of the control as long as the equipment performs past what their buddies have. I have turned more customer's over with the MTX equipement since Alpine did those digital amplifier's with the controls than when it was just the normal amps. For some reason Alpine amps have a tendency to go into protection mode and you have to reset it more often than not. This is what I've heard from Alpine customer's that come to me with the problem. Another problem is their HU's kicking out on them after a year or less. ERR on the sreens or the face doesn't work anymore. Don't get me wrong I've been an Alpine fan for over 10 years, but their quality & workmanship is not as good as it use to be.

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Jeff
Velocity Custom Home Theater
Mobile Audio/Video Specialist
Morden, Manitoba CANADA

Posted By: the_one369
Date Posted: March 30, 2006 at 10:54 AM

Posted By: Fastlearner
Date Posted: March 30, 2006 at 11:47 AM

Last years model with the motorized faces always burnt out. But other than that I really haven't seen to many problems.

Posted By: carguy411
Date Posted: March 30, 2006 at 4:37 PM

Posted By: carguy411
Date Posted: March 30, 2006 at 4:55 PM

i been looking into the mtx line what if i got with the 1-12" 8500 or the 9500 jackhammer subs
and the 5601 will that be enough for those subs
or even if i go with the bigger amp that should hit pretty hard no??
it lookslike the equivalent to the jl W7's\

what you think about that and the previous post?
thanks

Posted By: Velocity Motors
Date Posted: March 30, 2006 at 6:18 PM

hey velocity it sounds like you deal mtx to your customers...some im just wondering if you've heard anything that i have from my mtx dealer....that mtx is starting to give the smaller shops there "b line quality" subs (when i say b line i mean small flaws/problems/refurbished) just wondering if you've caught wind of anything of the sort

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I have all the Super series in stock and I opened up a few and I haven't seen anything stating that these are "b" stock items.The only thing that I've heard about supplier's giving B-stock stuff to was A&B Sound, but they purchase this on purpose so they can offer them as loss leaders.

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Jeff
Velocity Custom Home Theater
Mobile Audio/Video Specialist
Morden, Manitoba CANADA

Posted By: Velocity Motors
Date Posted: March 30, 2006 at 6:30 PM

i love alpine for there headunits
i have the flip out tv for almost 4 years before i had a problem with it and now just got the new one
i dont have a problem with getting the MTX stuff i used to use it back in the day, just havent heard them in a while
but if everyone is satisfied with them then thats no problem ill go with it
im just tryin to figure out to go with 1 12 or 2?? or to go with the 10's??
also the 7801 amp needs the 1/0 gauge wire which means i have to rewire my system
and hope it doesnt put to much strain on the altenator

what do u recomend
i want heave deep clean sounding bass..
thanks

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IMO I would go with 2 - 12's as this will produce the best bass for overall music genre's. They still hit hard but can still drop to a lower frequency when needed. I would say go with the 7500's because they are still priced good and you will need less power to make them thump opposed to the power hungry 9500 sub. Nothing wrong with the 8500 or 9500 subs, just they require ALOT of power in order for them to get the same SPL as the 7500's.

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Jeff
Velocity Custom Home Theater
Mobile Audio/Video Specialist
Morden, Manitoba CANADA

Posted By: carguy411
Date Posted: March 31, 2006 at 12:41 AM

ok so i think im going to go with 2-12" 7500
now i need the 7801 amp
how important is it to run the 1/0 guage wire
i have 4 ga. now in ther i should change it right??
can the stock altenator handle the current??(04 tahoe)
also which should i get 4ohm or dual 4ohm better to go to 1 ohm or 2??
and a vented box
do they make these in a box already form MTX??
thanks for all your help

Posted By: carguy411
Date Posted: April 01, 2006 at 9:09 AM

also what should the prices around each component be. im seeing them for a very large price range everywhere i look
or should i just ebay it??
thanks

Posted By: boardinbum
Date Posted: April 01, 2006 at 12:03 PM

Here is a link to the wiring size guide.
A ho alt. definitely wouldn't be a bad idea.
You should get the SVC 4ohm and wire them for a 2 ohm load since your subs will be 400 rms each, and that amp puts out 800 rms at 2 ohms, that'll be a perfect match.
Vented box is a must. They do make those subs in an MTX Sledgehammer enclosure if you want to pay a lot more money. So I would suggest building your own if you have the skills and equipment or having your local shop build one for you.
Most people around here (many shop owners) will tell you to go check out your local shop to buy all your gear since they offer you a full warranty, and will sometimes even match the price if you find your stuff cheaper at a reputable online vendor. However, if you buy your stuff on eBay, you will get it cheaper, but that also means no warranty, and you run the risk of getting ripped off.

Posted By: carguy411
Date Posted: April 02, 2006 at 11:06 AM

i got some prices on the mtx line
the guy near me said 550 for the 7081 amp and for 2-12 7500 subs in the mtx box for 500
seems pretty good price to me what you think??
also i was lookin in to the amp and it says a min of 4ga power wire so i think i should be good with mine in there now
but i think i want to get a new altenator cause im tired of the lights dimming gets a little annoying
anyone recommend any HO altenators for a 04 tahoe 5.3L
thanks for your help

Posted By: Velocity Motors
Date Posted: April 02, 2006 at 12:13 PM

carguy411 wrote:

ok so i think im going to go with 2-12" 7500
now i need the 7801 amp
how important is it to run the 1/0 guage wire
i have 4 ga. now in ther i should change it right??
can the stock altenator handle the current??(04 tahoe)
also which should i get 4ohm or dual 4ohm better to go to 1 ohm or 2??
and a vented box
do they make these in a box already form MTX??
thanks for all your help

Depending on how far your amp is away from your battery you can use a 2 gauge or 0 gauge wire, but the 4 gauge is too small especially if your going to be running another amp for the speakers. If you purchase the single 4 ohm subs you can wire it in a 2 ohm load for SPL :

This will be the best configuration for SPL opposed to running the dual 4 ohms subs in a 4 ohm load. The single 4 ohm will make use of most of the power from the 7801 which is 2 ohm stable. Also take into account that MTX amplifiers are rated at least 25 % less than when they come to you. The rated specs say 800 watts but your amp will have at least 1000 when tested at the factory.

If you go with a ported box ( all Sledgehammer enclosures are ported ) it will give you an additional 3 db of SPL. Here's the spec of the Sledgehammer enclosures:

Model	SLH-T7512X2-D
Driver Type	Thunder7500
Description	Dual 12", T7500 SledgeHammer 2 $Ù$
RMS	800W
Freq Resp (±3dB)	38.06-150
Enclosure Height	14.250"
Enclosure Width	34.250"
Enclosure Depth	18.000"
Weight	104.5 lb
Recommended Amp Power	400-800 Wrms

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Jeff
Velocity Custom Home Theater
Mobile Audio/Video Specialist
Morden, Manitoba CANADA

Posted By: Velocity Motors
Date Posted: April 02, 2006 at 12:18 PM

carguy411 wrote:

also what should the prices around each component be. im seeing them for a very large price range everywhere i look or should i just ebay it??
thanks

Here's a thread about buying online in comparison to an authorized dealer for equipment.... it's a good read. Should only take 5 minutes but well worth the time. Lots of good information from various member's of the forum and just good to know when you decide where to buy.

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Jeff
Velocity Custom Home Theater
Mobile Audio/Video Specialist
Morden, Manitoba CANADA

Posted By: Velocity Motors
Date Posted: April 02, 2006 at 12:55 PM

carguy411 wrote:

i got some prices on the mtx line
the guy near me said 550 for the 7081 amp and for 2-12 7500 subs in the mtx box for 500
seems pretty good price to me what you think??
also i was lookin in to the amp and it says a min of 4ga power wire so i think i should be good with mine in there now
but i think i want to get a new altenator cause im tired of the lights dimming gets a little annoying
anyone recommend any HO altenators for a 04 tahoe 5.3L
thanks for your help

That's a very reasonable price for the equipment. A HO alternator you can try a search through Google or on this site.

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Jeff
Velocity Custom Home Theater
Mobile Audio/Video Specialist
Morden, Manitoba CANADA

Posted By: boardinbum
Date Posted: April 02, 2006 at 1:32 PM

Yeah, that seems like a very good price.