best way to hook up 4 10" subs

im trying to hook up 4 10 inch pioneer ts-w251r subs in my show car but not very fond of hooking up subs i would like to know what amplifier would u guys recomend like make and model and why it would really help and how exactly or the best way too hook it up : on a side note itts gonna be in a custom fiberglass box im building thanks

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i just would like the best way to hook it up any recommendations??

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Couldn't remember if those were single voice coils or doubles, rough night. hope this helps.

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there are a lot of good two channel D class amps the at are out there.

rockfordfosgate.com

planetaudiousa.com

soundstream.com/amplifers

JLaudio.com

DEI.com   (they make viper, directed,orion amps  )

crossfire

audio pipe

diamond audio ( they are a new line of audio equipment)

being this sub is rated at 600watts max i would get 2 600watt D class amp and have 2 on each amp . the links are to just a few amps that would be great for you.  hope this helps u out .

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4-15" RF T2
6-7" RF Component sets
8 Planet Audio 900d
10 Batcap800
1 250 amp alt
1 300 amp alt
2" sound deadner roof,doors,floors

You can also look at concepts I just picked up there line I've installed quite a few and they perform awesome and they aren't very exspensive compared to most. Xtreme by DEI also perform decent to but they are a tad overated.

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im looking to keep the whole pioneer theme this is show memeber its not like just a car lol but that did help xtreme but i still would like to know if i put two amps two for each how would the set up be and what pioneer amp would u recommend thanks guys u guys have helpped alot


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"there are a lot of good two channel D class amps the at are out there"

Class D amps are not 2 channel, they have 2 terminals for connect more subs, but they are not 2 channel amps.

and don't look at Max Wattage, look at Rms Wattage. those pioneer ts-w251 are 120 watt rms, 4ohm single voice coil. 4x 120= 480 watt rms tot. look for an amp that is 500 watt rms at 1ohm and wire them as the second diagram that xtremej posted before, and you should be fine

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Shaking The Neighborhood

tru thanks mann thats cool thanks that helps alot so now all i have to do is look for a pioneer amp with 500 watts with 1 ohm but do i need a capicitor at all and also ( a newb question ) what exactly does a capcitor do and again would i need one ???

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Pioneer  GM-510M Class d mono bloc, 300X1 @4 ohm, probably need 2 but it'll keep the Pioneer theme going. These amp are pretty good, I've installed a few of the 7200M's and they  performed good minimal heat up.  the 510's have a samll footprint so they won't take up a ton of room. the 510 rates at 500X1 @ 2ohm. I don't see any amp listed stable @ 1 ohm though.

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so how would i install two of those i would rather have two just for looks any ways ????

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thanks guys u guys where really helpful

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one more thing what gauge wire and size fuse would u guys recomend

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2 of the Pioneer GM-7200M Class D amp should be good also, i don't think you will be able to find a pioneer amp that is 500 wrms at 1 ohm. check two of those amp and wire them as the picture below, and go easy with the gain setting. those amp is 360W x 1 @ 2 Ohms, and 2 of those sub are 240 wrms and wired in parallel is a 2 ohm load.


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Shaking The Neighborhood

ohhh and no capacitor right????

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capacitor won't help if you have stock alternator, those amp the Pioneer GM-7200M have both 2 30 Ampere fuses. so at the two amp you have 120 Amperes and you still need an third amp for power your front stages. so i think it's better if you can put an HO Alt. and do the big 3.

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Shaking The Neighborhood

u lost me mannn lol dont understand the lingo ???? lol and whats an HO alternator but i think i did understand u said to get 3 amps could u explain alittle bit more on that

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HO Altenator= High Output Alternator. yes, you should have 3 amplifiers right? 2 amps for your 4 subs and 1 amp for your speakers or are you planning to power your speaker with your head unit(radio)? what car do you have?

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Shaking The Neighborhood

Check with your local automotive eletrical shop see if you can get an upgraded re-build of your factory alternator.  bring it up to 145 amp or so.

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i have a 91 civic and is it better to hook up the speakers through an amp or through the radio ???

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I would suggest a 4 channel amp so you can better match the volume of the subs.

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yep, do what xtremej said.

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Shaking The Neighborhood

i would get a good 4 channel for ur highs. nothing sounds worse than a system with only bass and very little highs. there are a lot of guys around here that has that nothing but bass and very little highs and it sounds like SHYT!!!!! and they think they are jammin then u have the guys that put in all the tweeters and u get bass and then all the screaming from the tweeters. that 2 sounds like SHYT!!!

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4-15" RF T2
6-7" RF Component sets
8 Planet Audio 900d
10 Batcap800
1 250 amp alt
1 300 amp alt
2" sound deadner roof,doors,floors

what would u recommend pioneer wise tho and would i need two or just one???

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I don't get this. I'm not trying to offend you, but you're new to the car audio thing and your building a show car?

i dont do wiring im tryng to learn homie i paint and do fiberglassing ( thats what u get for not asking questions lol) but ne waz

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GM-D510M - this is a 1000w max  D class amp , 600 watts rms at 2 ohm

PRS-D2000T -2 channel FD class amp

the 2 amps listed above are good for ur subs

 

this is a good amp for ur highs , GM-6200F- this is a 4 channel

 

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4-15" RF T2
6-7" RF Component sets
8 Planet Audio 900d
10 Batcap800
1 250 amp alt
1 300 amp alt
2" sound deadner roof,doors,floors

thanks man but honestly how would u hook up the 4 channel to the simple speakers i have two 3 ways and 2 2ways and two 6x9 that are 2 way i got the subs pack down just need help know on the other speakers

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can u tell me would three of these GM-3200T work there 300 watt max and 60 Watts x 2, at 4 ohms and 150 Watts x 1, at 4 ohms i told u guys what i have already so wondering if thatll work for the 6 speakers 2 for each amp??

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also all the speakers i have are Pioneer TS-A6960,
Pioneer TS-A1370R,Pioneer TS-A1670R im sorry there all three way

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So you have 6 speakers, factory ones? what's their power rating? i think is better if you use the 2 3ways and the 2 6x9, thus 4 speakers and use an 4 channel amp the Pioneer GM-6200F looks nice it's 4x 60 wrms amp, and wire each speaker at each channel of that amp. You can put 2 of the Pioneer GM-7200M for your 4 subs and wired them as i showed you before. or you can use 2 of this 2 channel Pioneer GM-5200T it's a 2x 125 wrms and wire each sub at each channel, and each sub will get 125wrms, more than enought because those subs are 120wrms.


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Shaking The Neighborhood

im thinkin of goin with 3 amps one for every two speakers kickpanels, doors, and back and that one gm-5200t and use three of the GM-3200T what do u think and then get the upgraded alternator ???

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Aruman wrote:

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Class D amps are not 2 channel, they have 2 terminals for connect more subs, but they are not 2 channel amps.

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I am curious... Why do you say they are not 2 channel amps?

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It all reminds me of something that Molière once said to Guy de Maupassant at a café in Vienna: "That's nice. You should write it down."

Class D aren't Monoblock Amps and Monoblock amps aren't single channel?

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Shaking The Neighborhood

Aruman wrote:

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Class D aren't Monoblock Amps and Monoblock amps aren't single channel?

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No. Class D does not mean monoblock, but yes, monoblock DOES mean one channel.

Here's a 5/4/3 channel class D amplifier... That's just one example. Stereo AND mono, bridgeable, too! All in one chassis... Eclipse also has a 4/3/2 version, and a 1/2 channel version.

All I am saying here is that class D does not mean "mono", or even "one channel" for that matter. Class D amplifiers appear in all of the flavors that typical class A and A/B amps appear in.

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It all reminds me of something that Molière once said to Guy de Maupassant at a café in Vienna: "That's nice. You should write it down."

ohh ok now i see, thanks for the correction Heamphyst.

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Shaking The Neighborhood