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Memphis PR sub gets hot

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Printed Date: April 29, 2024 at 8:08 AM


Topic: Memphis PR sub gets hot

Posted By: mike swanson
Subject: Memphis PR sub gets hot
Date Posted: April 13, 2006 at 5:52 PM

I have a Memphis pr 12" 250w/500 max sub on a 200w pioneer amp.
It ran for a long time just fine. Now it shuts the amp off and the sub is real hot. Why would the sub get hot?
We have checked everything and cant find out why.

any ideas would be helpfull
                           Thanx -Mike
                            



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Posted By: stang351w
Date Posted: April 13, 2006 at 5:57 PM

sounds like your sending a clipped (distorted) signal to your sub, my suggestion is to get a larger amp that matches your subs's power ratings so you can send a clean signal to your sub.



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Posted By: forbidden
Date Posted: April 13, 2006 at 8:03 PM

Um, no not necessarily there Stang. Heat is a natural byproduct of producing power. Turn on a light bulb, you also get heat. Turn on your amp, you get heat. Turn on a engine, you get heat. Turn on a sub, you get heat. Heat is the killer of subs. If your sub cannot dissipate the heat generated by sustained use or by overpowering the the driver, the sub is going to fail. A properly designed sub is going to do it's best to pull heat out of the center of the speaker by means of vented pole pieces, perimeter venting, liquid cooling etc. Heat is there to stay for now. As long as you do not break the thermal barrier of the sub, heat will not be an issue.

As far as the amp goes, it may be shutting off due to it's thermal barrier being breached. This may be due to an incorrect gain setting or the amp is driving the wrong impedence for it's original design. An amp has multiple protection circuits, low voltage, low current, low impedence, excessive heat and other safety gates as well depending on the manufacturer. My bet with yours is the gain set too high and / or the wrong impedence.



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Posted By: stang351w
Date Posted: April 13, 2006 at 8:10 PM

i see your point of view, maybe i just mis took his info, i know a sub will get warm, mine always has,  but not hot.   i just assume'd that since he's had it running for a long time that the impedance and gain levels would have been done properly otherwise these problems would have shown up shortly after the install. 

just on a side note, here's what ya can do forbidden, move your shop across canada to the furthest point east of you, set up shop here, hire me and share your knowledge   lol



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Posted By: forbidden
Date Posted: April 13, 2006 at 8:13 PM

I have seen subs that were so hot that the magnets melted right off of the baskets. 11 hours of sustained top volume playtime and they finally failed.



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Posted By: mike swanson
Date Posted: April 15, 2006 at 12:51 PM
Now we found that the deck gets real hot after bout 5 songs at 20 volume. So we think its the deck since its a refurb.




Posted By: forbidden
Date Posted: April 15, 2006 at 4:47 PM

That is about normal as well I hate to say....



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Posted By: arrow12
Date Posted: April 15, 2006 at 6:47 PM

forbidden is right...  Since decks produce power they naturally produce heat as a byproduct.  A lot of decks can get really hot, but still work fine.



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Posted By: darthness
Date Posted: April 15, 2006 at 11:25 PM
why would he purchase another amp to match the subs power rating... he probably won't notice a difference going from 200-250.




Posted By: mike swanson
Date Posted: April 16, 2006 at 12:29 PM
After looking over this system and talking to the customer.

This amp says it runs 380w @ 4ohms bridged

and the gain/volt was turned all the way up by the customer.

I have it set and told the guy Not to touch it.





Posted By: pcguy760
Date Posted: April 16, 2006 at 1:24 PM

Speaking of the headunit heating up, a few years I ago I had an old Sony CD Player (those old Sony's use to heat up ALOT) - I discovered that by removing or disabling power to the built-in amplifier output IC's GREATLY reduced the heating problem (This only works if you're using external amplifiers driven by the line outs). Not saying you should do or try this because most head units nowdays do not really heat up that much as those did.

Did it for some friends too back then and everyone was happy.





Posted By: arrow12
Date Posted: April 16, 2006 at 9:30 PM
If you decide to do what pcguy760 said, then make sure it doesn't screw up the warranty.

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Posted By: r_wern
Date Posted: April 23, 2006 at 5:09 PM
I worked at a Memphis dealer and 200 watts is really not enough power for a PR124.  At a minimum, I would run the Memphis MC250d mono amp.  It is rated at 250watts x 1 @ 2 ohms. I had a JBL 301.1 running my PR124D and 300 watts was a perfect match for that woofer. 





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