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Topic: i need an amp bad

Posted By: et3rnal
Subject: i need an amp bad
Date Posted: May 08, 2006 at 9:42 PM

ok i am a complete noob when it comes to this stuff... i just recently bought 2 audiobahn 1206t's and i need a quailty amp that will put a decent amount of power into these subs for around $200. i know these are over rated subs but i know they can still push a good amount of wattage.. so can someone help me find a good amp that will push a good amount of watts into each of my 2 subs for cheap.. thanks




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Posted By: Blowntweeters
Date Posted: May 08, 2006 at 10:49 PM
do you care about warranty ? www.ikesound.com has some cheap amps.  i would recommend listening to as many amps as you can ,at local shops before you buy. with one of your CDs .

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Posted By: et3rnal
Date Posted: May 08, 2006 at 10:57 PM

ok thanks i am trying to buy the perfect amp to make these sounds as good as possible.. but i have no money lol imagine that





Posted By: et3rnal
Date Posted: May 08, 2006 at 11:00 PM

what would fit me best a mono or 2 ch amp ? and what should i try running these subs at?





Posted By: stevdart
Date Posted: May 08, 2006 at 11:03 PM
"quality", "decent" and "power" don't add up to $200.  At least not easily.  Like Blowntweeters said, you'll be looking through the bargain basements or fleabay.  Those are SVC 4 ohm subs, right?  Wired in parallel for 2 ohms, look for a mono amp.  Did you buy these preloaded in a box, or are you building one?

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Posted By: et3rnal
Date Posted: May 08, 2006 at 11:11 PM
im bought a Q power bandpass ported encloser.there are alot of amps that say they put out alot of power for really cheap but they are really crap.. i just want something thats goin to make these subs sound as good as they can.. but ya i was leaning towards the mono amps i just dont know what a good brand is and what watts at what number ohms i should be lookin for..




Posted By: stevdart
Date Posted: May 08, 2006 at 11:31 PM

You bought a bad box, sorry to say.  There won't be any "sounding good" with a bandpass.  But you can make changes.  Look at the sub literature and make sure each one is a single voice coil 4 ohm.  Look at woofer wiring at the left side of this page to find a wiring diagram to make the total load 2 ohms.  After verifying that, look for a mono amp that will output about 600 to 800 watts into 2 ohms.

Trade that bandpass box for a vented box, if you can find one that allows for what you need to do.  Or find someone who can build it for you.  Build the box to 1.75 total interior cubic feet.  Insert a round PVC tube that is 4"  (inside) diameter and 17" long.  Mount the subs into the box and you will end up with a net airspace of approx. 1.38 cu. ft.  Small box, long port, but that is what this particular sub should have.  This will probably give you best sound quality.  Box tuning frequency will be 35 Hz.



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Build the box so that it performs well in the worst case scenario and, in return, it will reward you at all times.




Posted By: Blowntweeters
Date Posted: May 08, 2006 at 11:45 PM

i think those are dvc 4ohms and rated like 1000 watts rms . overrated but still.if your budgets that tight. go with somthing middle  on quality and higher on power.this would fit the bill. https://www.ikesound.com/product_id/3775  but is twice what you want to spend. please give the specs for the subs



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1974 ford pinto 4 15" punch Z power punch bd 1001 pioneer DEH-6700




Posted By: et3rnal
Date Posted: May 09, 2006 at 5:46 AM




Posted By: stevdart
Date Posted: May 09, 2006 at 8:24 AM
Two dual 4's puts you in a tougher spot trying to get an amp at a low price like that.  And what I said about that box.  Use a good solid, braced 3/4" MDF enclosure.

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Build the box so that it performs well in the worst case scenario and, in return, it will reward you at all times.




Posted By: et3rnal
Date Posted: May 09, 2006 at 4:24 PM

this is what im confused about if i find a amp that pushes 800w at 2 ohms does that mean my subs will only be gettin 400 watts a piece.. and if so would that be enough or should i try to find sometihng that puts about 600 or 800 per sub..  and do u think these is a good amp or could i find a better one for the price https://www.caraudiodeals.com/product_info.php?cPath=28_29&products_id=609 

thanks





Posted By: saturnsubohio
Date Posted: May 09, 2006 at 4:37 PM
that amp is mono, and it means that your subs will indeed be getting 400 watts a piece. this is due to voltage division amongst the subs.

it will depend how much you want to spend.. i personally try to stay away from all things audiobahn if possible. but thats just me.

however you will be wiring your subs @ 2ohms so you will be putting 1600W through thme or 800 watts a piece.. assuming a 100% efficient amp which doesnt exist



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Posted By: et3rnal
Date Posted: May 09, 2006 at 4:48 PM
ya well thanks for explaining all this too me lol.. hopefully i can get everything together and it works out good..




Posted By: stevdart
Date Posted: May 09, 2006 at 10:35 PM
If you manage to get a true 400 watts to each sub in a good vented box...believe me it will be loud.  You can pretend it's 1600 watts.

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Build the box so that it performs well in the worst case scenario and, in return, it will reward you at all times.




Posted By: Blowntweeters
Date Posted: May 11, 2006 at 11:01 PM

i tryed to post a reply the other night it didnt work. that audiobahn amp will not work well with those subs at all  !!! those are dual 4 ohm subs with a mono amp you will get a 4 or 1 ohm load . i would recommend a slot ported box  or sealed. and get an amp that puts out 600 to 1000 watts rms @ 1 ohm or at 4 ohms.



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1974 ford pinto 4 15" punch Z power punch bd 1001 pioneer DEH-6700




Posted By: et3rnal
Date Posted: May 14, 2006 at 9:55 PM

i recently just bought 2 audiobahn 1206t's that supposly RMS at 1100 each lol.. but i got them in a vented mdf box in the back of my explorer and i was just wondering if this amp even though not super powerful, would make this subs loud.. i have a power acoustik amp on them now but its from my old set up and i need something better.. i want these subs to be heard from as far as possible lol.. ( just like everyone ) so would this put enough juice into these.. and if soo how should i wire them..

  my subs---- https://www.caraudiodeals.com/product_info.php?cPath=21_24&products_id=28

  THE AMP----- https://www.onlinecarstereo.com/CarAudio/ProductDetail.aspx?Productid=12086





Posted By: radiofreak88
Date Posted: May 14, 2006 at 10:05 PM

usually you want 70 % of your subs rms rating for a decent amp but i always feel that when you want it loud too much is never enough ex. your subs suposebly rms @ 1100 watts each just saying for a moment they are single voice coil i would say to get an amp with at least 2500 watts rms thats a 2 channel amp. over kill yeah maybe but if your amp doesn't break a sweat trying to power your subs and your subs are performing with all the power they were made for then you can't go wrong!!!! play it loud !!!!



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Posted By: et3rnal
Date Posted: May 14, 2006 at 10:20 PM
ya that would be nice but see gettin an amp that has that much power and is still an actual good amp lol... is goin to be a doodie load.. i mean do u think that amp since its pure clean wattage would sound really good ?




Posted By: forbidden
Date Posted: May 15, 2006 at 12:04 AM

Nope. Totally wrong amp to look at. Considering that Audioburn overrates their subs by a country mile, find youself a mono class D amp that is designed and engineered to operate at 1 ohm. Powerwise, anything from 800w rms at 1 ohm up to 1500w rms at 1 ohm should suffice. Good clean reliable cheap power, look at Concept for the CD1210 amp, should be close to your price range.

Here is the wiring diagram for your subs to a 1 ohm mono amp.

Option 1 (parallel/parallel) = 1 ohm load
Voice coils wired in parallel, speakers wired in parallel
Recommended Amplifier: Stable at 1 ohm mono
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