W7 advice?
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Topic: W7 advice?
Posted By: saturnsubohio
Subject: W7 advice?
Date Posted: May 16, 2006 at 7:09 PM
Hey,
I have someone willing to buy my W7 12" for 400 dollars, im looking to keep a system that is fairly balanced between SPL and SQ.
i have the trunk space for an adequate box with 2 12"s but would prefer to stay with 1 single 12" any suggestions on what to do?
any subs i should look @ That will rival the W7 in performance?
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2006 WRX STI
Electrical Engineer
Ohio University Alumni
Replies:
Posted By: luckydevil
Date Posted: May 16, 2006 at 7:44 PM
It sounds like you are looking to replace the W7 with a W7. Why not just keep it?
Posted By: saturnsubohio
Date Posted: May 16, 2006 at 8:00 PM
yeah i suppose i am, but im always looking to change my system for the better or better sound for less money,
I was just wondering if anyone has any thoughts on some 12"s to check out that may strike my ear....
I was thinking along the lines of
Eclipse 12" Titanium
RE XXX
Adire Brahma
IDMax 12"
but i cant find a decent price on them... LMK
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2006 WRX STI
Electrical Engineer
Ohio University Alumni
Posted By: zhalverson
Date Posted: May 17, 2006 at 1:12 AM
Check out the Soundsplinter Rl-p's.
Posted By: killer sonata
Date Posted: May 17, 2006 at 1:55 AM
Sounds to me like you could use a MTX 8500 or 9500. You can use this link https://www.mtx.com/Flash2/volume_displacement.cfm to compare mtx subs to other competition thats on the market. happy hunting. Honestly though since you already have the W7, id hang on to that. Its a great sub and really is hard to beat. If you arent happy with the way it sounds, build a different box. That can make a world of difference.
Posted By: mustangfoo
Date Posted: May 17, 2006 at 3:03 AM
Man you would not believe the subs I heard today, didnt really get a chance to look into them further until probably Saturday to investigate more. Not a big brand thus far, but are called Titanium Power, have you heard of them? Man it was 2 12" subs in a slot ported box WOW wasnt in a car as it was a display, but I swear those darn things shook every single thing in that room!!!! LoL, they sell for $145 each, if you are interested in more info, just let me kno on a PM as I am heading back over there Saturday to fill in the blanks.
Posted By: Steven Kephart
Date Posted: May 17, 2006 at 4:01 AM
killer sonata wrote:
Sounds to me like you could use a MTX 8500 or 9500. You can use this link https://www.mtx.com/Flash2/volume_displacement.cfm to compare mtx subs to other competition thats on the market. happy hunting. Honestly though since you already have the W7, id hang on to that. Its a great sub and really is hard to beat. If you arent happy with the way it sounds, build a different box. That can make a world of difference.
Keep in mind that the link above is pure marketing designed to make MTX's subs look good. Also keep in mind that there is more to a subwoofer than output, just like there is more to a car than it's peak horsepower.
Posted By: killer sonata
Date Posted: May 17, 2006 at 4:17 AM
MTX isnt always the winner. Sure im a MTX fan, but I do like alpine, eclipse and JL a lot too. You are right though. There is always more factors to buying a sub than just its output. It all depends on the situation and vehicle its going in.
Posted By: saturnsubohio
Date Posted: May 17, 2006 at 10:49 AM
Steven Kephart wrote:
killer sonata wrote:
Sounds to me like you could use a MTX 8500 or 9500. You can use this link https://www.mtx.com/Flash2/volume_displacement.cfm to compare mtx subs to other competition thats on the market. happy hunting. Honestly though since you already have the W7, id hang on to that. Its a great sub and really is hard to beat. If you arent happy with the way it sounds, build a different box. That can make a world of difference.
Keep in mind that the link above is pure marketing designed to make MTX's subs look good. Also keep in mind that there is more to a subwoofer than output, just like there is more to a car than it's peak horsepower.
i had to fight with a lot of my good friends when MTX Released that propoganda. anyway Steven The other "semi" pertinent info is this.
sub will get ~800 Watts RMS (unsure of amp but wanna stick in this range) box will be vented and sized to match the sub as best that i can... now as someone will point out, the SQ of a vented box is not as good (generalization). Yeah im aware of that but i need to have the boom still just because 1 12" that can outdo or keep even with 4 12"s just in the "seat of the pants mic" still makes me warm and fuzzy inside.
I dunno what to do. it seems like the W7 really is the best for my wants. ------------- 2006 WRX STI
Electrical Engineer
Ohio University Alumni
Posted By: Aruman
Date Posted: May 17, 2006 at 11:27 AM
That volume displacement chart of mtx is based on theory, in the real world things would be different depending on the instal. if you compare 2 10" 9500 with 2 12" 7500 on that MTX Volume Displacement the winner will be the 2 10" 9500 series by 0.5dB, i know that the different of 0.5dB isn't audible, but they should be as loud if you compared them based on the result of that MTX prog.
Wel i've test that, i had 2 10" 9500 dvc in 1 cuft each sealed enclosure power by the mtx ta81001 at 1ohm giving them 1500wrms it was very loud for two 10's in sealed enclosure. but when i tested 2 12" 7500 svc in a sealed enclosure 1cuft each power by the same amp but at 2ohm, giving them like 800wrms the 2 12" 7500 where way louder that the 9500 series. and that was 800wrms against 1500wrms so there's come efficient in play. i mean if 800 wrms are louder than a setup with 1500 wrms which one would you choose?
i wouldn't trust that program of MTX.
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Shaking The Neighborhood
Posted By: bassplayer24_7
Date Posted: May 17, 2006 at 12:12 PM
what about a couple W3V2's or the new W3V3's
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(2) 12" JL W3V3
(1) 6" JL W0
Phoenix Gold Octane R 8.0:1
Phoenix Gold Octane R 2.0:1
Phoenix Gold Octane R 5.0:4
Clarion Crossover
JVC Head Unit
Posted By: tcss
Date Posted: May 17, 2006 at 3:37 PM
W3V3s will not be out until June.
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There is no such thing as free installation!
Posted By: jayson358
Date Posted: May 17, 2006 at 3:53 PM
jl w3v2 suck they are way over priced i wouldnt pay 250 each for them i went out and bought 2 12w3v2d4 and put them in a sealed box to they're specs and 250w rms to them like jl said and they just dont cut cut it for that price i might pay 150 a piece but alpine type r are way better and u can get them for 200 a piece right now
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93 diamante
pioneer deh-p3800mp
crossfire 40 band eq
alphasonik pma4075 mid amp
clif designs cd10.1Lx sub amp
powerbass xtreme 6 1/2 comp
" " 6x9 rear
alpine 2 12" type r
ported 40hz tune
Posted By: tcss
Date Posted: May 17, 2006 at 4:01 PM
I sell both and would disagree with your opinion.
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There is no such thing as free installation!
Posted By: bassplayer24_7
Date Posted: May 17, 2006 at 5:04 PM
right
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(2) 12" JL W3V3
(1) 6" JL W0
Phoenix Gold Octane R 8.0:1
Phoenix Gold Octane R 2.0:1
Phoenix Gold Octane R 5.0:4
Clarion Crossover
JVC Head Unit
Posted By: saturnsubohio
Date Posted: May 17, 2006 at 9:16 PM
so there is no miracle sub that will solve my problems.
what do you guys think about a W7 but in the 8" model?
i could use some trunk space.
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2006 WRX STI
Electrical Engineer
Ohio University Alumni
Posted By: Francious70
Date Posted: May 18, 2006 at 10:30 AM
Look into the:
Phoenix Gold TiElite
Phoenix Gold Xenon
RE Audio XXX
RE Audio SE
Adire Audio Brahma
Adire Audio Tempest
ID IDMax
ID IDQ
Eclipse TI
Posted By: benneeb0y
Date Posted: May 19, 2006 at 4:09 PM
i dunno i just got 2 12" JLW3v3's n them joints are nice. They are out already at least in VA. Gotm on sale too for like a ball senventy eech. I haven't heard the v2's. I'm only pushin bout 460W to them and they hit hard and clean. By the way neone kno of a good amp to push 600RMS or so that these speakers call for. Not lookn for sumthin too exspensive either. The W7's are nice but they are way pricey.
Posted By: tcss
Date Posted: May 19, 2006 at 4:11 PM
What ohm rating are your W3V3s?
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There is no such thing as free installation!
Posted By: killer sonata
Date Posted: May 19, 2006 at 4:14 PM
I talked with my local friendly installer about the 8W7s and he said they are quite a dissapointment. I was thinking about getting 4 of them and he said its not worth the cash. I already have 2 mtx 8500 12" subs and apparently those are my best bet right now. Im thinking your best bet is to stick with the W7s and build a different box to suite your liking.
Posted By: saturnsubohio
Date Posted: May 19, 2006 at 4:21 PM
killer sonata wrote:
I talked with my local friendly installer about the 8W7s and he said they are quite a dissapointment. I was thinking about getting 4 of them and he said its not worth the cash. I already have 2 mtx 8500 12" subs and apparently those are my best bet right now. Im thinking your best bet is to stick with the W7s and build a different box to suite your liking.
nah the box is quite to my liking, actually i like the box a whole lot.
i was thinking maybe the 8W7 in the back deck.. but @ 20lbs it'd be weird on the structure on the car.
hmm looks like im staying with the W7 ------------- 2006 WRX STI
Electrical Engineer
Ohio University Alumni
Posted By: Aruman
Date Posted: May 19, 2006 at 4:59 PM
why go with the 8w7? the 12w7 is a pretty good sub, what amp you are using to power it?
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Shaking The Neighborhood
Posted By: benneeb0y
Date Posted: May 19, 2006 at 5:10 PM
i have two 8ohm v3's. i havem wired for 4 ohms 3.8 to xact. nice speakers in my opinion. im more of a sq than spl guy so they are impressive to me. i had 2 12W0 b4 these so its deff a step up from that. to the guy who is tryn to get the 8 would scratch that idea dood. I would stick with wat u got. and u aint gotta spend no money 2 do it.
Posted By: saturnsubohio
Date Posted: May 19, 2006 at 5:57 PM
not going to spend any money, except to buy the amp to push whatever sub i get.
thats why im asking in the first place,
i need to buy the amp im going to power the sub with (whichever subs i get)
i had a JBL 1200.1 and i should have never gotten rid of that amp. it was my favorite amp... i cant afford too much because of the undertaking of my front door project, and the fact that im a poor college kid.. around 300 dollars would be the max i could spend on an Amp and Wires for it.
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2006 WRX STI
Electrical Engineer
Ohio University Alumni
Posted By: benneeb0y
Date Posted: May 19, 2006 at 7:25 PM
hold on so u already sold ur w7?
Posted By: saturnsubohio
Date Posted: May 20, 2006 at 12:37 AM
benneeb0y wrote:
hold on so u already sold ur w7?
nope, still have the W7 just dont have an amp for it. ------------- 2006 WRX STI
Electrical Engineer
Ohio University Alumni
Posted By: mustangfoo
Date Posted: May 20, 2006 at 2:53 AM
saturn, let me know what amp model # you are looking for, I might be able to help you out. OR give me some ideas of what you want in watts range, and tell me some companies to exclude. For sure nothing that is like PYLE or stupid brands like that, that dont even make good amps. I might be able to get you the amp cheaper, just let me know by tomorrow morning before about 10 11 or so Pacific time.
Posted By: saturnsubohio
Date Posted: May 20, 2006 at 10:47 AM
mustangfoo wrote:
saturn, let me know what amp model # you are looking for, I might be able to help you out. OR give me some ideas of what you want in watts range, and tell me some companies to exclude. For sure nothing that is like PYLE or stupid brands like that, that dont even make good amps. I might be able to get you the amp cheaper, just let me know by tomorrow morning before about 10 11 or so Pacific time.
YHPM
@ 845 PST. and im hungover... ------------- 2006 WRX STI
Electrical Engineer
Ohio University Alumni
Posted By: benneeb0y
Date Posted: May 20, 2006 at 12:56 PM
You had the GTO1201.1 II? It was a good amp? Likes dislikes?
Posted By: saturnsubohio
Date Posted: May 20, 2006 at 1:09 PM
nah,i had the BP1200.1 thta is the model of it, i think it was a while ago i bought it,
It was all black with a silver JBL Logo in the middle, im like 90% sure it was a BP1200.1
I really liked that amp, should have never sold it, but such is the game.. sold the stereo to turbo the car then decided it was too much a PITA to have a turbo car. so now im rebuilding the stereo.
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2006 WRX STI
Electrical Engineer
Ohio University Alumni
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