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Setting Gains?

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Topic: Setting Gains?

Posted By: benneeb0y
Subject: Setting Gains?
Date Posted: May 17, 2006 at 7:15 PM

I have read the posts here about setting amplifier gains with a dmm, but I see some say to turn all your bass, trebble, MX, loud, bass boost, etc. off or to flat? I also read that some say to do it with them set to your liking. What is the better way?



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Posted By: DYohn
Date Posted: May 17, 2006 at 7:29 PM
Set all EQ to flat and all processing to off.

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Posted By: benneeb0y
Date Posted: May 17, 2006 at 7:36 PM
thanks dood!




Posted By: benneeb0y
Date Posted: May 17, 2006 at 7:37 PM
ps.

wat about the amp's bass boost?




Posted By: stevdart
Date Posted: May 17, 2006 at 8:01 PM

The DIY version of setting gains allows you the flexiblilty and time of adjusting after listening.  Set the gains with all controls flat or off to start with.  Try to get used to listening to your music sources with these controls left as they are, and this may be hard to do for those of you who are accustomed to immediately boosting bass and treble and cutting the mids.  After some time you might, and usually will, find a compromise between what you thought was appropriate EQ settings and what really makes the music sound complete.  It is after these listening sessions that you go ahead and make minor tweaks in the processing and boost.

After you have established some EQ and are happy with the results, spend some time setting the gain again.  This time, instead of using the DMM use the other (and I think more accurate) method:  listening.  Test tones (again) and ear muffs are used for this, and you will have found sources of info on this method in your earlier searches.  You will be listening for the clipped sine signal.  This will qualify your system to be accurate and have the highest signal-to-noise ratio, and most importantly, rule out the possibility of amplifier clipping.  You can then verify the results if you like using the DMM method, but as I have noted in other threads, that method relies on published ratings that typically can't be quantified.



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Posted By: benneeb0y
Date Posted: May 17, 2006 at 8:20 PM
thanks for the info. ya i kno those manufacs lie about the ratings. Nominal I think they call it. I plan on doing an ear test but wanted to set it to the "specs" first and work from there since i dont have a oscope.




Posted By: stevdart
Date Posted: May 17, 2006 at 9:38 PM
Sounds like you know what you're doing.    posted_image

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Posted By: benneeb0y
Date Posted: May 18, 2006 at 5:47 PM
i try i try :) okay i am kind stumped at the moment. I set my amp's gains the dmm way with 50hz for the subs and 1khz for the mids and highs a couple of days ago. I had the sub amps bass boost on and the lp filter set to about 50hz. I ended up with the gains set about half way thru their spectrum. but today i reset the gains with out the bassboost and the lp filter set to about 80hz. I ended up with the gains being set around 3/4 of the way thru the spectrum on all amps. I guess my question would be, could the bassboost and lp filter of my sub amp affect my mids amp and my highs amp?




Posted By: benneeb0y
Date Posted: May 18, 2006 at 5:48 PM
p.s.

deff sound sway better now tho




Posted By: zhalverson
Date Posted: May 18, 2006 at 7:15 PM
I don't think that the sub amp would affect the others.  I'm thinking you might have had to turn up your gain on the mids and highs to keep up with the sub when you turned that up and adjusted it correctly.




Posted By: benneeb0y
Date Posted: May 18, 2006 at 7:19 PM
thanks for the reply! sounds logical.





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