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10 inch suggestions

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Forum Name: Car Audio
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Printed Date: May 09, 2024 at 2:47 PM


Topic: 10 inch suggestions

Posted By: sinistar
Subject: 10 inch suggestions
Date Posted: June 05, 2006 at 12:01 PM

Just curious if you had the choice, which pair of 10's you would get for a wheel well sealed enclosure and a 1200.1 mono amp powering them? I've got the Diamond Audio D5 1200.1 and a smaller sealed box...too small, posted about it a while back. The Eclipses I had aren't cutting it. I want to try a different pair before I get the box rebuilt. Of thought are the new Kicker CVX's round, 600W RMS rated. the diamond Audio D6's, 500W RMS rated(would be a nice match with the two Diamond Audio amps I have). Maybe a pair of RE SE's...kinda expensive, but heard good things. The subs are workin with .5 cu ft air space a piece. I know too small for most. So anyone with experience in these subs and enclosures would be great. Thanks




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Posted By: luckydevil
Date Posted: June 05, 2006 at 12:06 PM
.5 cubic feet including driver displacement or without?

It may be an option to inverse mount the subs so you have more airspace.




Posted By: sinistar
Date Posted: June 05, 2006 at 12:57 PM
Without actually, I know bad. Inverse is a good idea if I didn't have a large false floor cover that goes over the top of the amps and subs. Would get me an extra .2 or something like that.




Posted By: luckydevil
Date Posted: June 05, 2006 at 1:30 PM
Damn, that's not a lot of space.

Another option is a pair of AuraSound NRT Low Profile Woofers. They are only 8's, but I've heard they come factory on the Ford GT's and sound very good.

https://www.aurasound.com/

Look under Products, and then Speaker Components to see the specs. You would need to use a different amp though of course.

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Posted By: aceracer24
Date Posted: June 05, 2006 at 2:20 PM

Memphis Audio

https://www.memphiscaraudio.com/products/details.asp?id=55

I have 2 of these in a very small sealed box running with

https://www.memphiscaraudio.com/products/details.asp?id=98

They sound very good and hit pretty hard for 2 10's. I don't recall how much I spent for em but it wasn't alot. These speakers according to Memphis can use a .50/1.00 box. Mine is someplace between .50 and .60



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1968 VW Beetle
Pioneed DEH-780MP, 2 10' Memphis PR104D, Memphis PR500.1, TXC 6.1, MTX Thunder 8502




Posted By: aceracer24
Date Posted: June 05, 2006 at 2:29 PM

bah forgot these

https://www.memphiscaraudio.com/products/details.asp?cat=&id=164&p=2

They handle more power and use a smaller  box, .40/.60



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1968 VW Beetle
Pioneed DEH-780MP, 2 10' Memphis PR104D, Memphis PR500.1, TXC 6.1, MTX Thunder 8502




Posted By: oman76
Date Posted: June 07, 2006 at 1:10 AM
For the air space you are allowing only one sub comes to mind. Image Dynamics! Check them out https://www.imagedynamicsusa.com/products_page.php?id=idq&type=sub. The IDQ V.2 sreries would be what you need. The only thing is the max. recommended power is 300 rms per sub and you got 500. I have only one of these in my F150 with 250 rms in a .5 cu.ft. enclosure and it pounds and hits real low with no distortion. Best small sealed enclosure sub IMO.

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Alpine 7903/Kove Aphex Signal Processor/
Streetwires/MTX Blue Thunder Pro 400X5/JL Audio XR570-CXi/Polk Audio DB Tweeters/Image Dynamics IDQ10D4 V.2




Posted By: sinistar
Date Posted: June 07, 2006 at 2:59 PM
You're right the Image Dynamics fit right in where I need to be for volume in a sealed enclosure. Only problem is I have never heard them and would hate to buy a pair and not like them. Wish I knew a local shop that carried them, of course not. Seems like a good idea though.




Posted By: aceracer24
Date Posted: June 08, 2006 at 12:37 AM
Did you not read my post? My second post listed some nice speakers that only use a .40 cube box.......300/600 watts even.

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1968 VW Beetle
Pioneed DEH-780MP, 2 10' Memphis PR104D, Memphis PR500.1, TXC 6.1, MTX Thunder 8502




Posted By: Steven Kephart
Date Posted: June 08, 2006 at 1:13 AM
I don't recommend using manufacturers enclosure recommendations unless they offer response curves and Qtc. values along with it.  The reason being that many times the recommendations come from the marketing department, which may not have the response you want.  Power ratings should also be very low on your list of things to look at as well.




Posted By: aceracer24
Date Posted: June 08, 2006 at 1:19 AM
hmm, ok so if you can't go by manuf recommendations then how would you find out the proper size box to use?

When i build the box for my memphis I went buy what the specs sheet suggested.

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1968 VW Beetle
Pioneed DEH-780MP, 2 10' Memphis PR104D, Memphis PR500.1, TXC 6.1, MTX Thunder 8502




Posted By: Steven Kephart
Date Posted: June 08, 2006 at 2:13 AM

You want to use a modeling program and the theile small parameters of the sub.  That way you can tune the sound to your preferences.

A perfect example was when I had to build a ported enclosure at work for a pair of MTX 10's (6500 series IIRC).  I modeled up the manufacturers specified enclosure and got a 7 dB peak at 53 Hz with a steep slope below that.  It's a great box for rap music, but won't sound good for many other types of music.  In fact to get a decent response I had to jump the enclosure size up to 8 cubes.  





Posted By: aceracer24
Date Posted: June 08, 2006 at 1:49 PM
Thanks Steven that makes sense. The problem is, I have winisd or what ever it's called. None of the speakers I have/or want are lisited so I have to input the Manufacturer and I con't have a clue what half od the info is that it shows me.

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1968 VW Beetle
Pioneed DEH-780MP, 2 10' Memphis PR104D, Memphis PR500.1, TXC 6.1, MTX Thunder 8502





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